jean-luc April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 So right now we use the words "tulpamancy" to refer to the practice of creating and interacting with tulpas. (or at least that's how I understand the term) To a newcomer, this gives us even less credibility, because of the "mancer" portion, which people know from words like "pyromancer". It gives the wrong impression. There's also "tulpa forcing", which is an odd term, as no force is necessary, only time and attention. Therefor, I propose that we simple modify the word "tulpa" to replace all these words: to tulp: to force tulping: tulpa forcing passive tulping, active tulping: passive forcing, active forcing tulper: A person who makes/has tulpas These may sound a little silly because you haven't heard them before, but to a newcomer they have no pre-existing meaning, which is a good thing. Thoughts? I don't visit as often as I used to. If you want me to see something, make sure to quote a post of mine or ping me @jean-luc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulpa001 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 Tulpamancy makes me think of this. Though, you need to understand, tulpamancy has been used repeatedly in published scientific journals. How do you take something like that back? Work is distance multiplied by force. Work is a form of energy. Force is mass times acceleration. Acceleration is distance divided by time squared. Finite non-zero time is required for tulpamancy. Usually, a tulpa is said to have no mass, however, a tulpa can travel infinitely far, so the work required is an undefined quantity. More realistically, information has mass equal to the minimum amount of mass contained by a stable object containing that information at a given temperature. Since tulpas are made out of information, they have a mass, they can also move at at least the speed of their hosts, therefore, tulpas represent a finite non-zero quantity of work. Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-luc April 7, 2017 Author Share April 7, 2017 tulpamancy has been used repeatedly in published scientific journals Wait really!? Well I guess we're stuck with stupid terms then... links please? I don't visit as often as I used to. If you want me to see something, make sure to quote a post of mine or ping me @jean-luc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulpa001 April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 https://xena.greedo.xeserv.us/files/Tracking%20the%20Tulpa.pdf https://www.academia.edu/13063918/Varieties_of_Tulpa_Experiences_The_Hypnotic_Nature_of_Human_Sociality_Personhood_and_Interphenomenality https://www.academia.edu/29921901/Tulpamancy_Transcending_the_Assumption_of_Singularity_in_the_Human_Mind Warning, Ctrl+f doesn't seem to work too good on some of these links. The cultural anthropologist uses tulpamancy and tulpamancer like it's going out of style. These are just the ones that I have in my recent history. You should check the citations lists for more examples. Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucilyn April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 "Develop/ing your tulpa" "Have a tulpa/tulpas" ez pz we might be stuck with the terms yeah but imo you're free to not use those specific words if you want, turning tulpa into a verb(s) woulda had to be done years ago at least Hi, I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points. I think being happy and having fun makes life worth living, so spreading happiness is my number one goal! Talk to us? https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-luc April 7, 2017 Author Share April 7, 2017 Yeah I can remove it from my vocabulary, but I was hoping the community as a whole would remove it as well, which is why I was presenting alternatives. After all, we did switch from tulpae to tulpas. I don't visit as often as I used to. If you want me to see something, make sure to quote a post of mine or ping me @jean-luc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinderex April 7, 2017 Share April 7, 2017 I kinda like the mancy terms personally. Gives it all a kind of wizardy feeling. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucilyn April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 people are worried about acceptance but tbh, after the mr metokur thing, I'm pretty sure first impressions aren't actually as big a deal as we think. pretty sure most people who are gonna hate were gonna be haters anyway. like they're really deadset on it.. and others didn't even take metokur's video itself that seriously, so I'm sure they could get over a couple silly terms Hi, I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points. I think being happy and having fun makes life worth living, so spreading happiness is my number one goal! Talk to us? https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akecalo April 8, 2017 Share April 8, 2017 I understand where you are coming from, we have particularly disliked the term "force" as we have seen it give quite the wrong impression and it is not, in its expected set of connotations, consistent with our experience. As you pointed out, applying time and attention does not require the application of force. In fact in our personal experience, we have found that the more "force" is applied, the less productive the outcome. I don't think that the fact that a term was used in the past necessarily negates the possibility that a different one could come into common use in the future. If a new term could be shown - to the people that used the old term - to have value, it is possible that the new term could be used in preference to the old in the future. It would not be the first time that terminology used in the early days of the development of a field has later given way to a different, more refined, terminology. Akecalo - Host Maya - Tulpa Mara - Tulpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie April 10, 2017 Share April 10, 2017 People still show up using that retarded plural tulpae, do you actually think that a request for new terminology is going to work? As a whole we've barely started moving away from the word wonderland, also. I'm not saying this is impossible but the tulpa community is far too fragmented for there to be sweeping changes culturally. We're all gonna make it brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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