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I wanted to talk about a few things, mainly theorizing on a few mechanisms behind the tulpa phenomenon, so I comprised a .pdf discussing self-imposition, mental disorders and imagination in general for example.

 

These (attempts at) explanations of certain things might ease the more skeptical newcomers into the tulpa phenomenon and clear some things up. I don't know if this will have any practical effect, or if some or all of these things are obvious to most of the users already, or if the whole thing written in one sitting was too hurried, but I just kinda wanted to get a few thoughts off my shoulders and write them down, and possibly have them discussed.

 

Yeah, ironically this is my first post, but I meant the phenomenon in general..

 

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http://www.mediafire.com/view/af4fkajlfmdcd2z/Alatar%27s_tulpa_musings.pdf

 

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http://www.mediafire.com/download/af4fkajlfmdcd2z/Alatar%27s_tulpa_musings.pdf

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Ok, i got some time to read it.

And because you asked so nicely, here are some points.

 

The passage about the difference between a mental disorder and a tulpa is well explained. I've watched some documentarys and patient videos about DID and shizophrenia, to get the difference or the exact definition of this mental disorder. But how is it possible for people with DID to create a tulpa and are possible to tell the difference between their other personality and their tulpa. I thought people with DID don't recognize if their change personality. They can't even remember what happened in this time. Some reference would be good, this interests me.

 

The point that we can train our brain just with the imagination of doing something is great, but i didn't understand the connection to tulpas.

Was it just an example about what our mind is capable?

 

The passage about the Self-Imposition is good. I've read so much about our brain manages the input of the senses. But i didn't realize that everything of our sensorial inputs is just calculated from our Brain AND manipulable. Makes the whole imposition stuff easier, having this in my mind.

 

And last the benefits of having a tulpa.

Simply just a list about some tulpamagic and stuff. The bonding with a tulpa could be better explained, with more motivation or something, because i think this is the main benefit of having a tulpa.

But some points are even possible without a tulpa.

The thingy with "you can ask your tulpa to act as an alarm clock and wake you up at a certain time." is possible, even without a tulpa.

There is a thread in this forum and i did this already as a child. It was a trick that was mentioned in some micky maus comic or so. Slamming the head six times into the pillow to wake up at 6am. It worked for me.

Just the Intention to wake up at six would work. Hard to determine if you woke up by yourself or your tulpa woke you up.

If my language insults someone, because of my mistakes, please let me know. I will work on it.

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But how is it possible for people with DID to create a tulpa and are possible to tell the difference between their other personality and their tulpa. I thought people with DID don't recognize if their change personality. They can't even remember what happened in this time. Some reference would be good, this interests me.

 

It's only based on what a couple DID-sufferers have told me. The amount of the tulpamancers is low, and those with DID is even lower, and about everything at the moment is based on anecdotes.

 

The point that we can train our brain just with the imagination of doing something is great, but i didn't understand the connection to tulpas.

Was it just an example about what our mind is capable?

 

Pretty much. If the imagination in general has such power, then the idea that you can also create another personality by using your imagination could seem plausible even to the skeptics.

 

The bonding with a tulpa could be better explained, with more motivation or something, because i think this is the main benefit of having a tulpa.

 

That's funny because I have always lived in a bubble and I don't think that I have ever emotionally bonded with anyone, even my friends or family (except a little bit with my tulpa), so it's impossible for me to even find the words, and I guess that it sticks out.

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That's funny because I have always lived in a bubble and I don't think that I have ever emotionally bonded with anyone, even my friends or family (except a little bit with my tulpa), so it's impossible for me to even find the words, and I guess that it sticks out.

 

I have read so much about the connection between tulpas and their hosts, how it could be and how great this is and such thing, but nobody really explained how this is. Or we can't imagine this connection because we never experienced such a connection between two beings.

Writing this post, i had the urge to describe it myself. But like you, i had no clue how to describe this bonding perfectly.

The only bonding we know are the bonding between a mother and his child, or a man with his wife. True love and such. But the bonding between a tulpa and his host is much more. A mother can communicate with her child and share her emotions over gestures, mimic or vocal.

But the child will feel his own emotions.

 

The difference between a tulpa/host and mother/child bonding is, i think, that a tulpa can feel the exact emotions of the host and vice versa.

 

Hard to describe. Like everything else, best way is to try it by yourself.

If my language insults someone, because of my mistakes, please let me know. I will work on it.

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The difference between a tulpa/host and mother/child bonding is, i think, that a tulpa can feel the exact emotions of the host and vice versa.

 

That's kinda what I meant by referring to the Huxley's claims of how this is not possible, and mentioning that with a tulpa you can have this sort of a direct connection that is otherwise unattainable with the other people.

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A few things. First off, it's a bit dramatic, too much for me. Secondly, you jump to conclusions like when you cite the studies on imaginary training and then suddenly they prove tulpas. As usual, you've capitalised 'tulpa' at some point which looks a bit dodgy. You mention the oft-cited but as-yet-undemonstrated memory capabilities of tulpas.

 

Your suggestion about imaginary friends serving as a learning aid is interesting, but I dispute it. Human children wouldn't be alone and idle for long enough; other children form the learning aid. Rather, the whole thing is probably sprung from the crucial ability to form a 'theory of mind', that is, to understand what others are thinking. This provides a huge advantage evolutionarily, and is important in a social dynamic too.

 

Finally, you could have posted this on the forum, given that it's not that long and putting it in a PDF doesn't add much to it. Failing that, you could at least use the forum's attachment system, to future-proof it.

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  • 5 months later...

This would be something good for discussion or even an article entry (if staff even wants to have another article section other than the one on the tab on the homepage).

 

This is just giving an overview on the tulpa phenomenon, not really a guide. But like waffles stated in the past, it can be attached for contingency plans. Other than that, disapproved for guide submission, and approved for whatever staff and GAT ends up thinking this should be shifted to.

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This isn't a guide or anything like it. So I guess it really does belong in General Discussion, where the OP still won't reply to the comments I made six months ago.

 

Oh and in case anyone does want to make this an article, the typography is bad, and I'm not sure whether the thing really isn't just a set of mostly unrelated thoughts on tulpas. It also doesn't make a strong case for anything in particular.

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Well, I already looked at the title and thought this was something that should go to General Discussion, but I had to read it to be sure. And now Waffles has ruined my new and totally unique suggestion.

 

This isn't a guide or anything that would go in guide-related forums, it honestly is GD stuff. Something that talks about the dude's theories and such, for others to read and comment on. What I think about his thoughts doesn't matter if I don't want to be a part of the discussion so. I'm not going to think too deeply about this but just say move it to General Discussion.

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