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RE: Ask Lumi's Tulpas
Ah, I know what you mean, so, basically, being able to embrace change while still having your own beliefs?

I always love to read your posts so yeah, if I ever have a problem with this, don't worry, I'll make sure I spam your with my vents and rants :p

Also, I'm gonna check that website, I really need motivation in my life.
03-13-2018, 05:31 PM
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RE: Ask Lumi's Tulpas
I really recommend starting near the bottom of https://www.stevepavlina.com/archives/
As great as everything he writes is, and although he only improves, I feel like the things he's written in recent years assume you've already learned a bit of his craziness from old articles. He's written about tons of things from motivation to polyphasic sleep to graduating from college in one year, I'd recommend his site highly.

Also a good article to touch base with over the years, this one's pretty important to me:
https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/0...ciousness/

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.
Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.
My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us stuff.
03-13-2018, 05:35 PM
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Thanks, I'll check it right now.
03-13-2018, 05:37 PM
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Actually, thinking back, when I was younger (and a lot lower on that list of consciousness levels) Steve's site bored me a bit. I appreciated his stuff, but it seemed like too much effort or just too business-y I guess, compared to his wife Erin Pavlina's site. I think this was directly tied to my level of consciousness - back then, I needed the belief system Erin provided and had more interest in new age spirituality. It was just kind of what got me started.

I slowly grew out of her articles and more into Steve's over the years. And I really mean grew. Erin's stuff, especially the old articles I used to read, feel like a stepping stone I crossed over a long time ago now. Steve's are a lot more relevant, and they contain no real new age spirituality, so no astral projection or supernatural entity talk. Doesn't mean he's any less interesting, though. Reality is that guy's plaything, literally considering his specialty is playing with his own perception of reality.

So, read them both if you can. Certainly skim the articles (there's so many now..) and pick out the ones that seem interesting. If you really get into them, maybe be a little more thorough. At very first, I found Erin's site from googling astral projection which was used rather liberally by a character in a book I read. So I was just reading all her astral projection, psychic and medium stuff. She only won me over to the unconditional love stuff after I learned that was supposedly the best way to deal with most supernatural problems. Then I started reading everything she wrote, which helped me get control over my emotions and beliefs to a better extent, and I started reading more of Steve's stuff too. I eventually decided I didn't need a pre-made belief system like new age spirituality provided, so I've left that behind. But even to this day, I can see the benefit to believing literally everything Erin writes. Even if it's all wrong on the supernatural front and none of that exists, the lessons those beliefs instill will still improve your life.

Erin also introduced me to lucid dreaming, which she's kind of a master of. Steve on the other hand introduced me to the ability to shape my own reality, so, y'know. They're both great.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.
Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.
My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us stuff.
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No way, I know that woman! I had no idea who you were talking about but as soon as I entered the site, I recognised her immediately, due to astral projection too, those were good times. I will make sure I read both of them, thanks!
03-14-2018, 02:11 PM
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Yo Lumi, I've got a couple questions for you (and/or your tulpas). First is for Tewi: how many digits of pi are you currently at? Iirc you had at least 70 memorized and were aiming for 770 (that'd be so amazing btw). Personally I'm only at 54 and I major in math.

This next one's for whoever, and is more of a brain teaser than anything else. Consider the statement "If you believe this statement, you'll be happy". If you believe it, you'll believe that if you believe it (which you do), you'll be happy, ergo you'll believe you're happy, which causes you to actually be happy. So it follows that the statement is true. Now consider "If you believe this statement, you'll be sad". Theoretically the same logic should apply, and the statement should also be true, resulting in you being sad for having considered it. Explain how the former statement is true while the latter is false, despite both containing the same logical framework of X=(X→Y) where believing Y is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Make sure that in showing your work, you include a kawaii rabbit where applicable.

Yo, my name is Sean and I'm the host of 2 tulpas: Sente and Mae. You'll know when they're talking because Sente talks in yellow text and Mae talks in blue text.
04-05-2018, 11:13 PM
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RE: Ask Lumi's Tulpas
Wow, I, too, had read Erin Pavlina's articles on astral travel. I recognized her as soon as I flipped over to her. I don't recognize Steve, though, and so now you have given me more homework. As I was reading your post, though, I was thinking that sounds a lot like REBT, in which Albert Ellis basically steals his theory from an old greek guy, saying "Men are not disturbed by things, but by their thoughts on things..."
04-05-2018, 11:51 PM
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We haven't been keeping up with the pi thing at all, since the last time we mentioned it probably. I can only do like 30 right now, but with a few minutes' practice I could get back to 60 or so. Probably stopped because literally nobody wants to hear us recite pi, for some reason. It's too bad, because there was really no end in sight for how far we could go.

Those are the same statements, the second isn't false, I can't exactly tell why you would assume that. They're both true only because, if you aren't happy/sad, you aren't actually believing the statements (or you're lying to yourself). They kind of flow backwards; "This statement is true if you are happy/sad after reading it" I suppose.

As for the paradox, it's due to illogically tying the truth of one statement to the truth of the statement stating whether or not it's true. The paradox is caused by the fact that there was no logical reason to tie the two together. It's no different than saying "If one plus two is three, then three plus three is seven." It's just more complicated is all.

"Kawaii rabbit" wasn't applicable anywhere, unless you considered it applicable to me being the poster, in which case my avatar can suffice.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
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04-06-2018, 12:19 AM
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RE: Ask Lumi's Tulpas
I have started reading through Steve's archives. There is a lot there and I see a lot of parallel with his writing and what I am trying to develop in my own...
Do you have a favorite article or series of articles?
04-06-2018, 07:30 PM
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RE: Ask Lumi's Tulpas
https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/0...ciousness/ This one has been on our desktop for as long as I can remember. The polyphasic sleeping ones are interesting, and the Graduating College in 3 Semesters one is kind of inspiring/useful. Obviously we're fans of the subjective reality stuff too. But otherwise, I don't have many specific recommendations, just read what interests you.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
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