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I posted a question based on a misunderstanding. Sorry.

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Response to a PM asking how I could believe tulpas aren't capable of being active without the host's attention/not believe in parallel processing, while still believing in tulpa sentience:

My tulpas just existing doesn't require that much from our brain. We can talk and interact pretty easily. Parallel processing is a lot more extreme a process, such as doing separate math equations at the same time. I think most people who think they can do these things are actually multitasking, which is switching back and forth between processes, possibly quickly. Pausing in the middle of one math equation to work on another or some such.

I have four tulpas, and if we could parallel process just because "they're tulpas", we'd be winning competitions for all sorts of things across the world because we had the processing power of 5 people. But we don't. My belief is just that hosts and their tulpas all work off of the same amount of processing power in the brain, and that having a tulpa doesn't suddenly make the brain more powerful.

As for true parallel processing even taking into account using double the processing power of the brain, I've never been able to do anything like that despite a lot of attempting, and it seems after some research that the two types of "parallel processing" are:

Multitasking, where you quickly switch back and forth between tasks, possibly so quickly it seems you're doing both at once, but technically never are; and

Combining multiple tasks into one, as seen with "pat your head and rub your stomach" - assuming you've not done this too many times before, it should take you a moment of being somewhat confused, before you can do it just fine. That moment is your brain combining the tasks into one. Switching then to patting your stomach and rubbing your head, you should experience that moment of confusion again, before you can easily do it again.

I think nearly all examples of "parallel processing" are a mix of those two things. As for tulpas "existing without the host knowing", like having wonderland experiences without the host's knowing until being told of them, I believe that's people tricking themselves into believing it happened when it really didn't, creating memories on the spot (or maybe intermittently over time). A lot of people don't believe in that these days because it just doesn't make sense.

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(10-06-2018, 04:42 PM)Angry Bear Wrote: This one is for anyone, but lumi's system especially.

I had a horrible lucid nightmare. Probably one of the worst nightmares i had in my life, and lucid, so i remember every horrifying moment. Sounds, feelings, visuals, everything.

It's too gruesome to repeat here, i couldn't even write it in my personal journal.

As far as the lucid part, i was stuck basically trying to wake up and/or help in some way, but the damage was done.

My first thought here was to link you some articles on the subject, but they don't seem terribly interested in trying to help avoid lucid nightmares or regain control during them. I guess if they're not too terribly horrifying that's fine. I'll link a couple from the main lucid dreaming sites anyway real quick: https://howtolucid.com/lucid-nightmares/ and https://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/...mares.html

I guess if you just wanted to hear others' experiences those work fine. But the closest thing to helping with future ones I'd say is in the first article at the end, which suggested using your lucidity to realize what's going on isn't real and to perhaps use the experience as a means to deal with something you're obviously afraid of on some level.

I wholeheartedly believe the evolutionary purpose of dreams is for us to deal with possible scenarios that could come up in waking life ahead of time, so we're not so terribly unprepared when they do happen. Most of the time, these aren't straight up nightmares for most people, but nightmares do happen (Some people have mostly stressful, apocalyptic or otherwise fearful dreams just by default - that sucks). As best I can tell, the majority of nightmares are based on unconscious fears you have, probably spurred by feelings you had in waking life, but explored more in-depth in the dreaming state.

At the very least, you should know that they can't hurt you and you shouldn't be worse off for experiencing them. Only obsessing over them, and possibly causing repeat nightmares, could really be a bad thing. I recommend the same thing as the Howtolucid article: Use the experience to sort out your feelings on whatever it was you were afraid of, or disgusted by, et cetera. It's not your mind thinking you're going to enjoy the experience, or wanting it to ever happen. It's the opposite in fact, it's your mind being afraid it wouldn't be ready to handle such a thing if it happened in waking life. Which, of course, if the dream was bad enough you might never have been able to. Still, you can at least take the edge off. Come to terms with your feelings and make them clear - if you were horrified or disgusted, accept that, but don't dwell on it. That's not the point. It didn't actually happen, so now isn't the time to spend so much energy thinking about it.

Unfortunately being lucid really will make nightmares much more intense and detailed, but I don't think that was by any means on purpose by your mind. It was an unlucky coincidence. That's why it would stick with you more than a normal nightmare, though, which as I've explained isn't the intent of your mind. The ideas come up during sleep for a reason; you're generally supposed to forget about them after the fact.

While dream interpretation is mostly full of fluff, I still respect what its actual purpose is, to learn from your dreams. I believe that's why we dream in the first place. While "looking for deeper meaning" is essentially never actually correct, it works because it causes you to be more conscious of things that could be subconsciously bothering you. Personally, I have the ability to tell what sorts of thoughts and experiences inspired whatever events happen in my dreams, somehow. I can just feel that so-and-so was a similar thought or fear as something I'd thought about or experienced recently, even though they're rarely so similar.

But a lucid nightmare really is just getting unlucky. It wasn't intended to feel so real or detailed, lucid dreaming doesn't seem intentional just in general. The last five paragraphs (specifically) of this article https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...nightmares talk about that. So I wouldn't, I don't know, take it too seriously. Well, I guess you should be able to draw your own conclusions from what I've said so far right?

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Hiiii! How do you play rhythm games so quickly Lucilyn?

Also.. I know being on here gave me a huge opportunity to learn and grow and meet awesome new people. Would you say that playing rhythm games taught you sharper/better/precise control and maybe even focus when fronting? Is there more to it you can think of that I'm not asking? :3

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Rhythm games are the only singleplayer games I don't get bored of really fast! They didn't really affect our switching, more like our switching affects them, me Tewi and Lumi play slightly differently (but well) while Flan and Reisen aren't usually as good (and don't really care to be)

honestly I'd recommend you start with Osu instead of K-Shoot, K-Shoot is really niche and doesn't have as many songs and is hard to play without a good keyboard or expensive sound voltex/k-shoot controller. We played Osu for years before getting sick of the perfectionism it encourages (DON'T WORRY ABOUT PERFORMANCE POINTS IF YOU PLAY OSU THEY MEAN NOTHING) and switching to K-Shoot, but Osu is still an amazing game and easier to play maybe..

anyways, rhythm games didn't actually teach us much that I know of, we just always loved music and video games so we really love music games, and Osu and K-Shoot are the only good (accessible) ones we've seen (Crypt of the NecroDancer is a BAD music game but a really really good game-game, but playing it for the music-aspect just ended up making me mad and I uninstalled it after the first couple levels and a bunch of custom songs..)


oh and, I play "fast" because I've had tons of practice! we were pretty good at Osu https://osu.ppy.sh/users/7277781 and have played like a year of K-Shoot MANIA now I think. Also we're really good at video games in general (Lumi's been playing stuff since he was like 4 with a GameBoy and Super Mario Land), and have good rhythm I guess, did I say that already? but yeah practice practice practice, and by that I mean play for fun and you'll get better before you know it

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