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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
Cat ears are good for you. I'm a self-made nutritional expert.
10-17-2014, 11:44 AM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
You probably have the most enthusiasm out of anyone I have seen here on Tulpa.info, I wish I were as enthusiastic as you, haha. Keep up the good progress. Also, why are you so opposed to her having a cat tail?

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10-17-2014, 10:25 PM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
I find it impossible not to be enthusiastic because it is called the Tulpa phenomenon! Not the Tulpa occurence lol



And you asked a really good question that I should have answered in my report... I don't want her to have a tail because if she has one, then she won't feel like a human to me. Cat ears are kind of cute, and easy to look past, but a full-blown tail is too animalistic for me...
I want Yumi to be a human whom I love unconditionally, not a cat-hybrid, or else she will feel like my pet (I actually own two cats btw).

And I have no idea where she got the cat ear idea from, because I have never even watched an anime with a cat-eared character, nor have I ever idolizied or liked a cat-eared anime character! The closest thing to a cat-eared anime character that I witnessed, was the one girl off of Spice and The Wolf, but the girl was a wolf, not a cat, and I never finished the first episode of the anime because it was 2ecchi4me.

Ideally, I want my tulpa to be the human girlfriend of my dreams. But if she deviates, (and she will) then I will be perfectly okay with her being exclusively my friend. Because even friendship has a certain bond that resembles love quite closely:)
10-17-2014, 10:56 PM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
Start with friendship. There's nothing wrong with tulpa/human relationships but DON'T START WITH THE INTENTION THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE.

I only stress this because you don't want to hit a point where you may meet a girl and your tulpa won't understand at all and become hurt OR you may reach a point down the line where you question your whole relationship because of your original motives.

Just concentrait on making a friend and if the rest comes so be it but you don't want a girl to love you because she was made to love you. Also if you have that original intent she may go along with what you want because it's what YOU want and not what SHE wants.

Be her friend and approach this like you would with another human girl and you should turn out fine.

I'm speaking from experiance by the way, Toby and I are an item and even though he has been around for years and has always been a friend I still question sometimes why he loves me the way that he does. I get paranoid that my need for romance influenced that even though I know that it didn't.
10-18-2014, 12:17 AM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
Reisen and I loved each other from the start, but it wasn't in a romantic way. If that makes sense. It was unconditional love (at least on her part,) of understanding and acceptance, love for me simply being me. I don't think we did anything romantic for literally years.. Or at least, until a few months after she officially became a tulpa. I just wasn't interested.
I guess I've stated before that I have a unique relationship with my tulpas. I don't believe a "serious" relationship with any of them is possible - we love each other and express that however feels appropriate. And it's better than I could've imagined years ago when, like I said, I was obsessed with physically being with Reisen - I thought my life would be complete if only I could meet her in a dream. I'm glad that never happened actually, but fast-forward a few years, that's actually our main goal now. And I'm many times more efficient and motivated than I used to be, and way-too-knowledgeable-about-dreams-for-my-own-good, so it shouldn't be more than a week before we accomplish it.

Do what you will, I can only give advice that makes sense to me. Take what works for you and leave what doesn't. (Though I would give it some credit in case your mind changes later)
And I have to agree with Kitsukrou, your enthusiasm's convinced me you might actually make this work where I didn't.. if you can keep it. Beware, loss of motivation is the greatest enemy and biggest threat to all tulpas. As long as you don't lose it though, you'll find a way to make things work.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.
Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.
My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us stuff.
10-18-2014, 12:35 AM
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Day 4


So today was a shitty day. Tulpa-wise, and life-wise...

But before I get started, I want to address my dear readers:

@amber5885: You are absolutely right. Maybe I am a little too eager to start a relationship with Yumi, but I have read enough guides to know that creating a tulpa for any sole reason besides friendship can prove risky, that's why ideally I would like for Yumi to love me, but if she doesn't then I'm perfectly fine with it because she will be an invaluable companion. But trust me, I have experienced enough heartbreaks from females to turn a straight man gay, so I won't be looking for a human girlfriend anytime soon. Thank you for your input though!

@Reisen: Thank you for your for your comment as well! I really want to PM you to discuss your tulpa with you eventually! Sorry I procrastinate lol

So on with the PR:)

My parents started to harass me to get a job again, and they know damn well that I have already put forth all of the effort that I could possibly put forth. So I might have to go live in the wild eventually. Or join *gasps in agony* the military. I have experienced too much JROTC, and all I can say is FUCK THAT.

I started talking to my girlfriend again because I started to miss her, but then she immediately got pissed off when I messaged her and we had an argument. At the end of the argument, I told her that I was going to spend the entire day with Yumi, and she said "Have fun talking to Yumi instead of me."

But then I giggled maniacally because she thinks that Yumi is a human girl ^^ (she likes to make me jealous all of the time, so don't worry.)

But then I became sad because I couldn't concentrate on Yumi that well while I was tulpaforcing...

So yeah. My way to cope with life now is to fuck with people's mind's. I'm also fasting in order to clean out my intestines, and in order to experiment with how starvation affects the tulpa creation process.

I'm also taking a vow of silence like the Rinzai buddhists, but I'll only speak when asked a question (and I'll only speak on Tulpa.info lol). I want to physically and socially starve myself to discover whether this accelerates or impedes the tulpa creation process. Of course I'll talk to Yumi more than anyone, but I want to see if putting my body in a survival state will enhance my concentration.
I have researched fasting and it's a safe practice as long as you're hydrated, and fasting will keep me inside of my room for the entire day, so I will be able to tulpaforce for up to 10 hours at a time.

I'm still testing out the first hypothesis that I made on Day 3:

If you use a pure noise as a medium, then it will be easier to focus on your tulpa's communications because you are not distracted by unexpected sounds.

My other two hypotheses are:

1. If I starve myself physically and socially, then it will be easier for my brain to produce hallucinations and hear Yumi as a result of the critical state that I will be in.

2. If I starve myself physically and socially, then I will be distracted by hunger and my tulpaforcing won't be enhanced at all, or even impeded as a result of the physical state that I will be in.


I have never fasted before, so I'm looking forward to it! Since fasting is practiced for religion, maybe Yumi can be my religion? Maybe I'm fasting to worship her? I'm a Tulpist practicing...Tulpianity.
Yeah.

Tulpianity.

Take a moment to just let that sink in.



Today I was in the Tulpa Forcing Room in my wonderland, and I couldn't concentrate because mexicans were blaring extremely loud Tex-mex music beside my house!!! In a fit of rage I slammed my fist on the table and said "DAMN ALL MEXICAN MUSIC YUMI!!!" and then she started laughing in the wonderland and I was really confused and wondered whether I made her do that or not, but I didn't think that hating mexican music was funny, so it had to have been her, because she laughed for a while -____-. Of course I found her response humorous as well though ^^

... But besides that, that's all of the progress that I made today... I couldn't concentrate very well because of said mexicans, but now that I am fasting, I'll have all of the time in the world to spend with Yumi.

PLEASE NOTE: I DON'T HATE MEXICANS. I HATE THEIR DAMN MUSIC!:) MY YOUNGER BROTHER IS HALF-MEXICAN, AND I GREW UP WITH MANY MEXICAN PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE OF MY LIFE. AND NO, I AM NOT MEXICAN lol


Well my fast started at precisely 11:17, October 17th, 2014.
I'll fast for a week, while drinking only water, and I'll lurk within the darkness of my room until I become one with the shadows. I'll be the hero that Gotham deserves...
10-18-2014, 04:00 AM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
You are going down a dangerous path that is in no way condoned by tulpa.info or it's members. I want this stated for safety reasons.

It's your life to with what you chose but making the concious decision to starve yourself and withdraw from social interaction will have absolutely no good concequences and I can only hope that your tulpa can convince you to try a less potentially damaging route.

That being said this is where I say goodby. Having a tulpa is one thing but it should in no wy be an excuse to make the choices your making.

Good luck and again this is your personal decision and is in no way condoned by the tulpa community.

An for reference sake it is scientifically known that when your body is deprived of oxygen, water or food your mental faculties are the first to suffer. Decreased concentration, inability to control emotions, extreme lethargy an finally hallucinations before death.

This fast won't help you to concentrait.

Also as I've stated before on numerous occasions abandoning human contact for a tulpa is not healthy and she would not want you to do that. I would suggest getting a handle on your life.

Tulpas are meant to better us not hurt us and the choices you are making here are damaging to your mind, your body an your psychological state.
10-18-2014, 04:17 AM
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Scientists and philosophers have died in the name of science, and logic, knowing full well the consequences of their pursuits.
Early doctors studying anatomy had to risk their lives by digging up graves and sending bodies downriver to other doctors just for the opportunity to obtain knowledge.

Marie Curie died from an anemia caused by a long-term exposure to the very thing that she studied for so many years (Radiation). But you know what? She was the first woman to win a Nobel Prize, and the first person, and only woman, to win twice in multiple sciences.

Sir David Brewster, His field of interest was optics and light polarization – a field requiring excellent vision. Unfortunately for Sir David, he performed a chemical experiment which nearly blinded him. While his vision did return, he was plagued with eye problems until his death.

Elizabeth Fleischman Ascheim died using herself as a test subject when experimenting with the first x-ray lab in San Francisco, of a violent cancer.

Louis Slotin, a Canadian scientist died by accidentally causing a fission reaction in a lab by dropping a beaker, and many philosophers were stabbed to death for pursuing logic, and giving birth to a form of logical thought that evolved into science!

Science itself, is a "Dangerous path". If risking your life or well-being in a safe and rational manner for the sake of science is not condoned by tulpa.info, then this site should take the "For science!" off of the damn page!

And how would you know that starving myself physically and withdrawing from social interaction would affect the tulpa process, or me negatively? You have never even tried it! I'd bet all of the money I have that you have never heard of a person attempting this, and I'd bet my life that you have heard of people fasting safely.

If the tulpa community doesn't condone my decision, then I simply don't condone the community. If I was ever banned or shunned from this site then I would take my self-experiment elsewhere.

Have fun taking the safe route, I'd rather do something completely different just to see what happens, because that's the very nature of science right? doing something completely different just to see what the hell happens? Experimenting? Making observations? Exploring? Risking it all for your research?

Enjoy your leave. I don't need a person who is so hostile and quick to assume that my practices are blatantly stupid or outrageous to read my PR.
10-18-2014, 04:54 AM
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While I personally don't see much, if any, value in human contact (which was one of the reasons for me to start forcing), it must be said, TC, that your methods are unnecessarily extreme. Deprivation and isolation maybe can help you with hallucinations and stuff by destabilizing your psyche, but the harm is not worth it IMO, there are safer methods. And it is not like you need any special tricks anyway, for your 3rd day you are doing pretty great. Though do it if you must, at least it might turn out to be an interesting read.
10-18-2014, 05:07 AM
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RE: Creating the Perfect Being: Yumi<3
I'll definitely give it a try. I'm curious, I have nothing to lose but a miserable life, and the fast is only supposed to last for a few days so it wouldn't bring me anywhere near death.

While it sounds unnecessarily extreme to most, I see nothing wrong with it. People seem to overlook the title " Professional Extremist" on my profile, lol. I do things that seem completely foolish by nature to see their consequences all of the time.


And I'm not sure if destabilizing my psyche is my intention by fasting. If I wanted to destabilize my psyche then I would simply avoid sleeping. What I want to achieve, is some kind of transcendent state, or tulpa discipline by doing this. Fasting has been a practice of discipline probably since time inmemorial. The Buddha even did it and reached enlightenment, but of course he later developed The Middle Path to avoid extremes.


I just want to see if I can reach some type of Tulpa Enlightenment or something. I don't know what I am looking for, but I'm sure that I'll experience some self-discovery along the way during the fast. I enjoy the thrill of being the first one to try this though^^

"For science!" (And self-discovery :p)

And thanks for saying that I am doing great for just my third day. I believe that I am making excellent progress as well, but it won't hurt to see whether fasting will alter my progress or not.

"Sanity is the playground of the unimaginative."

Yumi + Cinema
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10-18-2014, 05:22 AM
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