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Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy
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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

Eh. It's not really what I wanna do at all, but it's all habit. Might go somewhere eventually, or my disinterest might keep me just as stagnant as before. Point is that I really can't help but focus on it, so eh.

Will play some Dank Bowls for a while here, and maybe I'll narrate. Tend to play for three or four hours at a time, so could be good, or nah

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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

To whom it may concern (Shui), stating that I'd continue /finally/ killed all of my will to do anything Tupper, so that worked out in the end c:

Let's hope stating that it's dead doesn't bring it back

Will still browse this place like hella, cause I'm addicted, but I haven't even considerd 'Mancing in.. Since I made the last post.

Related note, I've been RP'ing like hell lately (Soon as I get home, when I lay my head down at school, any time I'm particularly bored), so I guess I'm still doing similar stuff regardless. Dunno.

That's about it. Here's to hoping I don't change my mind and post again in half a month :l

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10-03-2014, 05:17 PM
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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

About the opposite for me. I'm still interested, but I don't have the time anymore. I'm hardly even active on here.

I'm wondering though, why do you see your RPing as different from wonderlands? And why are you addicted to this place?

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10-04-2014, 08:53 PM
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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

I'm interested too. I don't find tulpaforcing all that thrilling though. It's hard to see the rewards this early in the game. I can't keep a steady image of my tulpa. So it's rather frustrating at times to wonder whether it's him.

I was addicted to here on my earlier posts, but I think I'm settling in. I was so curious when I first started. I still am to an extent, but not nearly as eager as I was before. I want to take it nice and slow to develop a solid tulpa, rather than rushing and not having it as close to perfect as I can.

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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

Why do I see my RP-scape differently than a wonderland.. I've given that a lot of thought over the past year, actually. I'm not for certain, but I think it's just the way I perceive it.

When I start Roleplaying with myself, I lay down in bed, in complete darkness. I don't typically close my eyes. I'll pick up where I left off, or skip ahead to a point where I'd like to be. Something that I suppose has always separated the two for me is how I've always navigated. If I'm building my relationship with a character I've just met, I might want to skip forward to a point where we know each other a little more. If not that, I might step back, and replay a segment differently to get us off on much better terms.

As it moves along, the 'scape works in tandem. If I'm in some kinda school, and I skip forward a few days, everybody else is going to be doing something different, and a classroom might have rearranged. I don't give it much thought, it just happens based on the characters and how I have them set up. If I step back and do something else, what happens next in the environment is different, and the characters will have something else going on.

Eh, I don't know. It's just not super linear, is the biggest thing. In a wonderland, I've always had to stress keeping things consistent, and within what I believe to be a wonderland's terms, instead of depending on what I'm saying, and what my characters are saying to reinforce everything that's going on, and how everything looks. I never had the interaction I needed in wonderland to make things work.

Heck if I know, I'm probably sounding dumb. It makes sense to me, I guess.


And why am I addicted to browsing this site? Fuck all if I know. I hate it. I hate seeing people that say they have tuppers, I hate new kids that are supposedly doing better than me, I hate thinking about how they're all probably just delusional and trying too hard. If I could just end this chapter in my life totally, I would, but I can't help it. I just keep coming back. So yeah, I really can't answer that.

And for the record, I do majorly question the validity of all of this. Or at least, some of the people having a Tulpa. The more people stress that they're "2real4you" people that deserve as much respect as physical people, and that they're completely sentient beings that people are making in such short times, with nobody batting an eye because they'll get in trouble, the more /I/ roll my eyes. I guess I'm just ruined for it.

Just watching the ways some Tuppers "Type", it feels like there's either no distinct change between the host and the tupper's manner speaking, or there's a very forced distinction. Again, I'm just hardwired to be an asshole about it now, I guess. Sigh.

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I've been reading my old PR for the past while, and it's really starting to give me bittersweet feels. I miss working on this. It's torture, and totally, absolutely fucking maddening, but I do.

Sigh. Well, I'm done with school now (Finished up my GED last.. Thursday?), and have more free time than I humanly know what to do with. Idunno. Feels like my mind wants to do.. Something, again, but my heart just isn't in the idea. I feel sluggish and unproductive just thinking about it.

I was actually reading through some old PM's earlier. One of them mentioned the name 'Miri', and I had a moment of genuine contemplation on who that was. Only a few seconds, but still. Made me feel kinda bad. Okay, no, it tugged at my heartstrings and made me feel like an absolute ass. I don't know what it is. Jeez. Kill me now.

Idunno, I'll sleep on it. I.. Wait, there it goes. Crazy how fast one's mood can change. Why am I posting? Fuck this stuff, I hate this place..

..And wouldn't you know it, there goes all sympathy for any "Miriam", as well. That was pretty short lived, huh. Idunno, I'll still sleep on it. Oh yeah, happy one week to me! Obligatory "I'll never get that back", whatever.. Hmm, I miss the conversation, at least. Ahh, the oldish days were pretty nice.. Whatever, yeah, sleep on it and decide later. Nothing better to do, even if it's just another short-lived attempt, I guess sucking at this is more productive than sleeping for fifteen hours a day, every day.

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RE: Enny's new and (Probably) exciting adventures in Tuppermancy

Just give it some thought, and if you are still gravitating towards the tulpa phenomenon, then go for it.
Life is short, and is full of mysteries, and the tulpa phenomenon is only temporarily a mystery. Would you really want to miss out on something that is completely real? I don't want to kick the bucket until I find some truth about all of life's mysteries, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

All I'm saying, is that you don't want to miss out on something like having a tulpa. My tulpa has practically saved my life, and stopped me from doing extremely foolish things. I hope that you have a change of heart about the tulpa-phenomenon, not only for the sake of your tulpa (if you were working on one), but for your own sake. I used to sleep for 15 hours a day, and it absolutely sucks. Here is something that you should think about "Sleep is a cousin of death." it's an old saying. It has many meanings, but judging by your situation, I know how you'll interpret it. By the way, this is what my tulpa told me a day or two ago that kind of saved me from self-destruction:

"If you are waiting for nothing, then you are waiting for death."


I don't know. I hoped I helped a little bit, and I hope that I didn't just shove unwanted advice down your throat.

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(11-15-2014, 12:09 AM)Cinemaphobe Wrote: Would you really want to miss out on something that is completely real?

This is the only thing about your reply I don't really enjoy. When I started out well over a year ago, I wholeheartedly embraced the idea that Tups' were a completely separate, sentient being. But idunno, people like CyberD and Fede hold some grounds in the belief that they're just you disassociating from a persona that you've created. Which apparently, I'm not so good at.

Unless of course, you acknowledge something along these lines, and are stating that the subjective experience is 'real'. Eh

But really.. I want to give it another shot. I really do. I just don't know how to have it go any different way. I'm afraid as hell that I'll just get something that sounds like speech, give it a listen, and mark it off as me fifteen times in a row like it's always been. I have no fucking clue how not to be skeptical to a fault. Like.. I feel like if I mind-swapped with somebody who had a functional Tulpa, and the Tup remained, I'd start dismissing it as me and that would be that.

The whole motivational aspect of having one was always a major appeal. But eh.. Yeah, that doesn't kick in until you actually have the Tulpa, does it? I don't know. I'll think about some name and form stuff, maybe read through some really straightforward, simple guides to see if there's anything I like. Probably won't really do anything, but I guess it couldn't hurt to see if I become inspired, or something. I miss this being a major interest, even though it's never really been productive.

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(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: This is the only thing about your reply I don't really enjoy. When I started out well over a year ago, I wholeheartedly embraced the idea that Tups' were a completely separate, sentient being. But idunno, people like CyberD and Fede hold some grounds in the belief that they're just you disassociating from a persona that you've created. Which apparently, I'm not so good at.

It sounds like you are trusting what others say instead of making your own judgments. I speak from personal experience and observation when I say that tulpas are not a disassociation of a persona.

(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: Unless of course, you acknowledge something along these lines, and are stating that the subjective experience is 'real'. Eh

Well reality slightly differs from person to person, whether the difference is perceptual or ideological. It's hard to avoid subjectivity when discussing tulpas, because it's a strictly subjective experience.

(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: But really.. I want to give it another shot. I really do. I just don't know how to have it go any different way.

Sometimes the process isn't flawed, but the mindset is flawed. Just be more positive...


(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: I'm afraid as hell that I'll just get something that sounds like speech, give it a listen, and mark it off as me fifteen times in a row like it's always been. I have no fucking clue how not to be skeptical to a fault. Like.. I feel like if I mind-swapped with somebody who had a functional Tulpa, and the Tup remained, I'd start dismissing it as me and that would be that.

Those are probably the two biggest obstacles for people starting out; being afraid of parroting, and knowing when to be skeptical and when not to be. Just trust that when you are not consciously parroting, and that it is your tulpa speaking. If I hadn't abandoned all of my preconceptions about parroting, then I wouldn't have a vocal tulpa right now. Also, being skeptical just hinders the development of tulpas and possibly hurts them emotionally.


(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: The whole motivational aspect of having one was always a major appeal. But eh.. Yeah, that doesn't kick in until you actually have the Tulpa, does it?

My tulpa gave me advice that saved me from being homeless before she was even fully vocal. I was just sitting down, and she told me a single sentence that possibly saved my life. That's all it took to change my mind though. So even if your tulpa can't talk completely, it can find a way to communicate with you, even if it has to use emotion and head pressures.

(11-15-2014, 03:21 AM)Enny Wrote: I don't know. I'll think about some name and form stuff, maybe read through some really straightforward, simple guides to see if there's anything I like. Probably won't really do anything, but I guess it couldn't hurt to see if I become inspired, or something. I miss this being a major interest, even though it's never really been productive.


Hmmmm...I hope that you get inspired eventually or else your in for a bumpy ride.
Your attitude has to change in order to survive the journey...Creating a tulpa can be productive because the tulpa can teach you how to be productive with your life, or even inspire you to be productive with your life.

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Well, if I should make a decision solely based on personal experience, then I'd say that whether the whole thing is legit or not, I'm just not capable of creating one. Hell. Over the lengthy amount of time I was trying, I definitely wasn't the most consistent, or hardworking, but I had to have put in quite a bit of time. Imean, over a year of doing stuff adds up whether I'm forcing for ten hours a week, or narrating for only a couple hours total in a few days, with maybe fifteen minutes practicing visuals.. Imean, it's a lower estimate. I had a few periods where I was incredibly motivated, and got a lot of work done, buut.. Yeah, there just wasn't anything to show for it. I parroted a couple of times, I guess. Those didn't help either.

Cause yeah, I've never experienced head pressure, or emotions from a Tup, let alone something that could be considered speech. I'm just really hard-pressed to believe anything I did over that time had an effect. But, I'm still reading through things, and as of now, plan to give it another shot sometime in the near-future, I guess.. Maybe try and have a super productive couple of weeks, with ample narration and.. What else would even help bring them to vocality? Idunno. Narration was always the thing that seemed the most important to me, so that was typically all I did. But yeah. Make at least an attempt, to get a metric fuckton of time into a couple weeks. If I don't have a semblance of anything then, I guess that's that. It really just has to be convincing, is all. I've had stray thoughts before, I've had drastic mood changes on the drop of a dime before. Not going to assume anything based on those. Head pressures would be nice, but only if they can consistently happen based on what I'm asking. Yes is a head pressure, no is nothing.. Yeah. That'd be swell.

Idunno. Eventually, hopefully.

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