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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

Going off of what Ponytail was saying, I don't know if longer scheduled forcing sessions are always helpful for every situation.

I will use me as an example. When I perform active forcing, I put a lot of focus into it. The end result is it can be significantly draining and it gives me ripping head pressures / headaches in extreme cases. The next day, I try to force again and I can't because my brain hasn't recovered from the last time I was forcing. The wonderland turns into a black void, and only sometimes lighting a candle or creating a dim light gives my brain the visual excuse to underperform and get through with it.

I also have ADHD, and concentrating on anything, particularly forcing, can be a challenge solely for that reason. For that reason, sometimes I have hit or miss days with visualization and forcing. One day, my visualization ability is decent and I can force actively for 30-45 min, and another day, I'm awake at 2 am and my visualization ability is so amazing I spend time in the wonderland for 2-3 hours. Other days, my visualization is garbage. My thoughts are my ability to visualize while active forcing in the wonderland are directly correlated to how well I am able to focus at any given time.

To be fair, I don't stick to a regular forcing schedule. However, I am nervous about the idea of making a more ridged schedule because I don't want to collect frustration and demotivation from every time I try to force with a distracted mindset or get a black screen and can't conjure up any clear images.

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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

It's definitely easier for me in the morning, but not if I'm in the wrong mood.

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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

(09-21-2018, 05:48 AM)Ponytail Wrote: Ask and ye shall receive... eventually.

My main issue with this is that it's so basic and doesn't really answer alot of the difficulties that even you present in your opening. I could summarize this entire half page tip into one sentence: "Slowly increase how much time you put into your forcing sessions." It isn't bad advice, but it's woefully incomplete. It's not JUST time that gets someone into the "flow." If it were just time, Enny would have a super saiyan god super saiyan tulpa. You need to give advice on how to fill that time for this to be complete. You mention tiredness, lack of focus, and running out of topics. Address those, or remove them from your introduction.

I would disagree; While those things would be nice additions I don't think they're neccesary. Approved.

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09-22-2018, 03:43 AM
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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

jean, did you know that you'll get better at sewing if you do more sewing than you did each previous day?

Sure, Abvieon provides practical advice on how to build a habit, but it's not directly addressing alot of the issues he's brought up. He's presenting that a quantity of time will help fix the problems he mentioned and neglects to mention anything that could be seen as quality time spent.

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09-23-2018, 06:25 AM
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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

I can't help but agree that most of what's written in this is fluff, and that it could easily be shortened into two or three sentences while still carrying the same amount of weight. When you address other issues in the beginning (tiredness, distractions, etc.) and don't elaborate on how it ties into your tip later, it'll leave some people wondering why it was mentioned in the first place. The tip itself is fine, but sometimes you can elaborate in all the wrong places.
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RE: A tip for those who have difficulty with long forcing sessions

I also feel the need to add this, because I didn't express it well enough, I don't think

He presents all these inhibitors to forcing, but then ignores them all. If someone has ADHD, then how do they get longer forcing sessions? What about meandering thoughts? Tiredness? These are legitimate obstacles that simply trying to add more time won't fix. I don't become less tired and able to force longer just because I try to force longer. Even adding something like "forcing immediately after waking, when one is not tired, will help with problems related to dozing off during forcing sessions" just as an example.

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