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How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
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How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Hi all

So, this may be an odd question, but...I generally consider myself a super creative person. Creativity is usually my strong suit. Imagining, visualization, etc...all strong points for me. So I thought that creating a tulpa would be relatively straightforward.

The thing is...I've tried four sessions now, aiming for a minimum of 30 minutes at a time, and starting with personality traits. I wrote out a list of about 30 personaltiy traits and have been meditating, focusing on my tulpa's 'essence' in front of me, and telling them their personality traits, and then proceeding to describe how they play out IRL with imagery and imagining scenarios, as well as verbal description. I realize that creating a tulpa is a bit different for everyone, but I thought this process might work for me.

But, no matter what I do, I cannot seem to maintain focus/energy/interest for that long at a time! lol. And I don't mean interest in my tulpa. Or that I get distracted or can't focus...I've been practicing self-hypnosis for years so, I have a pretty good idea of how to stay focused. The problem is I honestly just can't think of much to say/discuss/describe after about 5-10 minutes! 

I'm not really sure why this is or if I'm approaching it wrong? The thing is, to me, personality traits are kind of, I dunno, obvious? So for example, first I started with my tulpa being 'intelligent'. I thought of situations where she would know the answers to difficult questions, be able to converse about deep subjects, and so on. I described a couple example scenarios, and continued to repeat and describe that she is intelligent and what 'intelligent' means and looks like. But, after maybe 6 minutes I just ran out of ideas and things to say. I felt like I had really described and explained 'intelligent' to my tulpa as best as I could lol. But, I felt like I was 'cheating' or would be failing if I gave up after 6 minutes, so I tried to just sit and imagine more about 'intelligent'...after a few minutes I started to nod off and my mind just went blank.

Any suggestions? How the heck do you guys maintain interest/ideas about a single personality trait for so long?!
05-19-2017, 02:53 AM
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Okay, use the trick of looking at random pages on wikipedia. (they have a random button) Don't tell me you got writer's block, the subject matter does not actually matter.

This question has been asked lots before. We recommend using the search function before asking.

Edit: Err, single personality trait? you mean you don't go through your whole list in a session?


Well, I read through that whole thing, and it led me to the wrong conclusion about what you are asking three times.

A single personality trait does not produce more than a couple minutes of content per session, so you go through several items a day.

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05-19-2017, 04:47 AM
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
This is just my opinion, so take it as just that. but I feel like you're putting too much effort into personality forcing. Instead I'd suggest just keeping a few traits in mind, and just hanging out with your Tulpa as you would a friend. Your expectations play a key role in how your Tulpa develops, so the traits you have in mind will likely bleed into them.

The important part is forcing. Just as long as you're passing AND active forcing, you're good.
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Exactly what Arvs said, I was thinking if I could even have done that and the answer was no. Before creating the tulpa at least, I can't imagine just sitting there thinking about them for that long more than like once. Personality forcing is more effective when you put their personality into practice (or into question), meaning instead of sitting there thinking "My tulpa is kind and adventurous and joyous and", you actually imagine what that's like. Imagine how they'd act/react in different scenarios, imagine situations that cause you to expound on the less detailed ideas you went into them with. That's what I consider personality forcing.

Making a list of words and repeating them a lot sounds like something to do if you forget who or what your tulpa is every day.

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05-19-2017, 05:58 PM
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Thanks guys Smile I guess I had it wrong after all! Haha good to know.

Sorry my post was confusing tulpa001.

I guess my confusion, then, is what is the difference between passive and active forcing? If both mean that I am imagining a scenario or what my tulpa is doing/would do in the current situation...seems to me that would be super hard to focus on while multitasking lol.

If active forcing (meditation) is more focused, then is the idea, like you said, to imagine a whole bunch of traits at once? That is, more or less the tulpa's whole personality? Or should I limit myself to some sort of list?
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Passive forcing is what it sounds like, hardly deserving of the word "forcing". It's like casual conversations with your tulpa while doing other things, vaguely imagining their form, and a lot of other random things. If you're not doing anything else, it's probably active forcing. Not that the terms actually exist, actual effort and actions matter more than what we call them.

Read my previous post for help with personality forcing.

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05-19-2017, 08:55 PM
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
The multitasking part is passive forcing.

Everything else is active forcing. Active forcing is dedicated activities, and there are a bunch of them.

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05-19-2017, 10:22 PM
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Thank you guys Smile That clears things up for me I think.

Haha, now to get back to work! Smile
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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
I ask myself "What do I wanna do in real life but is impossible?" and that changes pretty regularly or I think of new things that are better. It's a creativity thing.

Your problem sounds like it stems not from lack of creativity but the lack of ability to put time into something that doesn't have an immediate return on investment. How long can you read a book for? Do you always have to be "doing" something? A lot of people today have shitty attention spans because of constant media consumption/screen time.

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RE: How do you come up with ideas during forcing?
Books can be a lot more interesting than your imagination alone, since they provide something either way. Like wonderlanding is alright for me.. but it's almost exclusively because my tulpas are there. Good books on the other hand are practically movies in my head. Personally.

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