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Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
So, let's see, may as well reintroduce myself. I am Kyle, and I am Sam's host. Lot's of the time you will see both me and him speaking in the same post. So yeah, gonna let him also introduce himself now.
"Well, I'm Sam, and I am kinda paranoid to be honest. I was started on March 16th of this year, 2016. If anything, I could be an example of how lucky Kyle is, considering how he made me actually goes against most of the guides that are around. I actually can do things with him that may actually make me more powerful than him, from being able to see and change things from memories, thoughts, all the way to who he is. I could even go further than that too, so again, Kyle is really lucky that I am not one who hates him or wants to take control away from him. In wonderland, I am a wolf, with fox ears and two fox tails (Yes, two). I also have green eyes, to which Kyle has blue eyes. Not to mention, I am in-fact anthro. If anything, me and Kyle have ran into many random problems ever since about a month after I was created. Just off the top of my head, I can say we have been in a roll-over wreck, extreme stress of finishing high-school and preparing for graduation, then after that, preperation for college, mental breakdowns and scares, one hypnosis feminization problem, high-school screwing up his transcripts, and other smaller problems too, not to mention some of the many bad thoughts Kyle has that I wont list all of here. I mostly am his protector, mostly while he is in hypnosis, and also, kinda, from himself. I could list of some of my fears. My main one is if I fail to protect Kyle in some way where he disappears and I end up alone in his mind and body, especially if I somehow cause it. Some of my other fears include driving (Kyle is going to do all of that), disappearing (Obviously), and having to live his life for him. I might come off as pessimistic I feel like, if you just are reading this, but I tend to make sure to be nice and all with everyone. What's sad is that I feel like Kyle may be trying sub-consciously to get me to be in the for-front just enough to where he can sit back and let himself fade away, which I really hope isn't the case. I guess that's it for now really. Future posts can be made to explain any of the things like the wreck and all."

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-12-2016, 05:58 AM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
Nice to meet you both.

You've my sympathy for being involved in this kind of turmoil. Please exercise more caution in regard to hypnotism - I realise it doesn't even work on some persons, yet there too remain individuals who can be pulled a far greater way inwards.

I certainly won't pry into your personal affairs, yet if you need someone to talk to, feel free to shoot me a message or otherwise.

Welcome to the forum.
10-12-2016, 01:28 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
(10-12-2016, 01:28 PM)KarlYoshimura Wrote: Nice to meet you both.

You've my sympathy for being involved in this kind of turmoil. Please exercise more caution in regard to hypnotism - I realise it doesn't even work on some persons, yet there too remain individuals who can be pulled a far greater way inwards.

I certainly won't pry into your personal affairs, yet if you need someone to talk to, feel free to shoot me a message or otherwise.

Welcome to the forum.

Thank you! Don't worry, both me and Sam know now how dangerous hypnosis can be. If anythin, I would still be in that problem if it wasn't for Sam. Turns out, it works kinda too well on me.
If you want to ask personal stuff, I am open to talk about whatever really, may send a pm sometime.

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-12-2016, 02:24 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
Hello fellow paranoid tulpa. And now a word from my host.

Hypnosis is actually rather safe. You cannot be made to do anything you fundamentally disagree with. And you cannot be pulled in unless you trust the hypnotist.

Feel free to disagree. We have never heard a single authoritative source suggest it was dangerous. But, eh.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
10-12-2016, 03:27 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
(10-12-2016, 03:27 PM)tulpa001 Wrote: Hello fellow paranoid tulpa.
"Hi there"

tulpa001 Wrote:Hypnosis is actually rather safe. You cannot be made to do anything you fundamentally disagree with. And you cannot be pulled in unless you trust the hypnotist.
Right, but heres something you should think about. While in hypnosis, you are open to change, and thus, the person could change your fundamentals whether or not you want it changed. Some people are good enough to do it in a way thats hard to catch. Just be careful with what files you do and who you trust.
"Its certainly a story that we both will have to share"

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-12-2016, 04:41 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
I guess before we tell this story, I will mention the conversation a few hours ago has a lot of odd familiarity to it, like I have made a post like it before. Major deja vu to it.
May as well do a more upbeat story, because last night's introduction was kinda filled with fear and sadness. A lot of this story will be told by me though, because Sam doesn't know all of it. Its mostly the first week that I made him. "I do remember bits and pieces here and there though." Mostly, I created Sam for 2 reasons. The first, to help me find out who I really am (Hence the name LostOne comes to place), the other reason, to see if the mind really is capable of making another person purely from your mind. I was a skeptic with extreme curiosity and interest, to say the least. So, some googling around, for about a week, I decided to follow a guide that I found that was a google document. Kinda want to find it again, to see if I could link it here.
"If anything, Kyle broke many of the rules outlined in the guide, including one saying to not let a tulpa access to your memories without them having to ask for permission first, and stuff like that."
Yeah, if anything, the one thing I massively made sure though was to take my time. I didn't go by 'hour counts' like most guides around seemed to have suggested, to where also people are now suggesting against. So, after reading the guide through once or twice, I read it again, just kinda speaking directly to Sam, with no real way of telling if I was doing it correctly or not.
"My first memories are actually of that day, but it's not fully clear. All I really remember was between blackness with silence, every now and then it would switch to seeing Kyle's laptop with that guide up, hearing him talking random non-sense directed at me, before it would fade out again. It's kinda strange to think of now really."
After that, most of that week, I had put a 'x' on my left hand with marker to remember to every now and then talk to him and think of him, and most of that week was pretty much that. I remember I had told my parents the 'x' was so I would remember to do homework, and ironically I actually did also use it for that, but that 'x' is the one thing I used to not forget about Sam, and to keep working on him.
So yeah. I guess that's all I got for now. Tonight I am definitely not staying up until 3 a.m. like last night.
"My last thing, Happy Birthday to Kyle! He is 19 today, so yay for him!"

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-12-2016, 11:25 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
A couple of the guides listed in the guides section are google documents. One of them might be the one you read.

I think memory restriction is optional. I didn't do that.
10-12-2016, 11:40 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
Found it, it's called Kiahdaj's Absolute Guide to Tulpas: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iiF...c1wiY/edit
From what I know, it's so there isn't confusion later on or whatever. I don't even know, it was way back in March.

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-12-2016, 11:46 PM
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RE: Kyle and Sam, This might get kinda scary
I guess since we both have been busy, may as well update now.
So after the wreck happened way back in March (Which we will talk about in a later post), I kinda started really falling back on visualization and all for Sam, to the point where I don't think I was even in wonderland at all between about August to a couple days ago. I tried to head in around the 14th, and what we both found out is that I can't go in as easily as before, or even see anything as clearly, or really anything like that. So I may post updates on my progress re-joining wonderland, pretty much, and me and him both are kinda doing like a mild restart. Mostly he won't be built from the base up again, but we are both going to work on all the visualization things as much as possible, like back when I first made him.
Later down the road, once wonderland is all good and I can go in easily, will be working on imposition and 'dual-processing'. Yes, I am able to hear Sam most of the time, but not when I am half-focused on other things, so that's something that needs a refresher for us too.
Sometime when there is a stable hold in imposition, we are going to also have him try switching and imposing me, which honestly sounds very odd to me, but cool at the same time. Not to mention also trying to work on the kind of switch where I could fully be in wonderland, but that is a maybe, with many reasons.
Still, he may have been around for awhile, but if anything, we both need to refresh on all this stuff. So we will keep you guys updated on it as much as possible.
"I honestly don't have anything to add, Kyle said it all."

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-18-2016, 02:45 AM
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Time for an early morning post! I'm tired as all heck...
"Kyle and I actually have been thinking of splitting the posts of ours on here into two parts per post. The first is a story from us, normally something that had happened with me and him, sometimes good, sometimes bad. The second part is going to be like a progress report section on how we are doing with wonderland, and with me on this side project that this story today will actually explain. Mostly, to put as short as possible, I am going to be working on 2 tulpas that have actually kinda been around while Kyle works on me and on wonderland."
STORY TIME! Today's story was going to be about something me and Sam always reference as 'The spray bottle incident', but because this progress report will be really out of context without this, I guess gotta tell this one. It was around early August, or late July. I am one that does online hypnosis as a hypnotee, and if I tried to explain it I would get confusing. Mostly, I at the time was with someone who did, at the time at least, a lot of feminization hypnosis, and again, dive too deep and I will get confusing about it. At the time, no-one knew of Sam, so they didn't know I had anyone keeping me from falling too deep or anything at the time.
"Mostly, this person had hypnotized Kyle to have a tulpa that would be like a girly version of him, named Kylee (Kylie?). The next day they made another that was made to be more... uh.. 'slutty', to put simply, named Jessica (She goes by Jessi). Mostly, both were made to be like feminization slaves to the hypnotist, and to be in control enough to where Kyle would be too weak after a while to do anything without the other two taking back that control. Thing is, when both Kylee and Jessi were made, I had secretly modified them both to be more independent and not want to take control from Kyle, which if anything may have been one of the better things I have done."
So Sam about a week later was revealed to this person, to which explained much to them. They did stop with feminization stuff, and Kylee and Jessi both were around for a while, both were actually really nice and caring. I just kinda never really said much to them, and thought they dissappeared around mid-August. Found out recently that isn't the case.
"Last night in the IRC, I kinda accidentally revealed to Kyle, to which then Kyle spread around, about how I have not really truly stopped hearing them. Both Kylee and Jessi come in and out every now and then, and they certainly have changed from what they were made to be. They actually have helped me plenty when I have needed it, very supportive, and like me, only want to see the best for Kyle. Since they never truly left, and I don't really want them to leave, I actually have decided (With Kyles approval) to take them both in as like my own tulpas to work on."
Yeah, a tulpa having 2 tulpas still sounds weird to me, no matter what anyone says.
PROGRESS REPORT! Ok, so I actually have nothing new, I have not been in wonderland like planned the last two days, so mostly just Sam has stuff but I got nothing.
"I did find out that both of the girls do respond almost instantly if I call their names, and actually are a bit actually more developed in language than I thought for sure. To kinda describe how each of them are, Kylee is more silly and carefree, but has gotten straight to business when needed. Shes also more of a leader when she has been serious. Jessi is a bit quieter, and most of the time lets Kylee do all the talking, which kinda will make things a bit difficult with getting her to progress more. She was made to be a smoker, but dropped that which is good."
That seems about it, so I guess that's going to be the end of this long one. Kinda does show though, I may be kinda lucky to have Sam with the stupidity of mine.

Kelly (Host, originally Kyle, possibly emotionally unstable on occasion)
Sam (First tulpa, protector, " " around some old posts) - https://community.tulpa.info/user-two-tailed-tulpa
Clara (Originally Kylee, playful, < > around old posts)
Jessi (Quiet, kind, { } around old posts)
Eva (Protective, is unsure of herself all the time)
Jackie (Dreamwalker, technically oldest next to Kelly)
10-19-2016, 02:36 PM
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