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Lumi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Moon
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RE: Lumi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Moon

Well that's 24 hours. Not going to sleep yet, but I am going to bed. Flan will keep me company while I just listen to music drifting in and out of consciousness for maybe 2 hours. That's the plan anyway. My music's always set to loop, so if all else fails it'll wake me up when it stops and starts again. Though I can't really sleep not-on-purpose, when I'm really tired I can drift in and out of consciousness every 10-25 minutes. It's happened like, four times in my life, so let's go for that huh?

After tonight it'll be back to Tewi for a while, though she said she was going to try harder, just in general I guess. Easier for her if she doesn't have to write large posts here every day, or find music for that matter. But that's later. Now, I work on staying awake while the body falls asleep.

And here's the song that has helped me do the falling asleep half of that more than any other. It actually has twice the total plays as the second most played song on our ipod, the Shpongle one, for the same reason. Shpongle's is long and fun to listen to while going to sleep, but Instrument Flight Rules is my be-all end-all for just zzzzzz



Of course it's got a bit of wub to it, it is my sleep song after all. Though it sounds louder on Youtube than on the actual album. The alllbum.. In much higher quality than on Youtube..

Anyways, good night!

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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

That is a nostalgic image, the Flower, Sun, and Moon album art.

I don't know that we're making any actual progress. We are in that we haven't given up, in that sense we'll always be getting closer to our goal. But it doesn't seem like we're getting anywhere. Lumi doesn't have the willpower to stay awake when he's that tired and in bed. He either sleeps or wakes up mentally. Him and Flan still remained relatively active during the minutes they're awake between sleep cycles, but I don't think that's going to be enough.

We're not aiming for lucky spontaneous lucid dreams here. Our goal is to master them entirely and have them on demand. That's going to take a lot more work. An awful lot of work actually. Lumi still hasn't totally accepted just how much work this will actually be for us because it's so much more than it is for others. So I'll say it for him. This is a lot more work for us than it is for others. He's the "lazy smart" type, someone who does not have trouble succeeding when they try, but instead has trouble trying. So he gets discouraged when things are actually difficult, especially if others are succeeding more easily than him. I understand that, but he needs to understand that what others are experiencing is irrelevant. How difficult something is to us is our reality.

Anyways, I'll work on it. I've got willpower in spades, and it seems our "primarily essay" classes are going to be easier than I thought, so I've got time. I don't know what I'll do exactly. Perhaps I'll just not allow the mind to sleep until it gives up and lets the body sleep without it?

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
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Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
09-06-2016, 08:20 PM
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

Went to bed feeling kinda sick, also remembered I had an advising appointment today so I couldn't quite spare the entire night. I talked to Flan for a bit before going to sleep.

Still remembering dreams. I have trouble going back to sleep when I have to wake up at a specific time for some reason, even - apparently - if I wake up at 5AM and don't need to be up for many, many hours still. I noticed something pretty dumb related to recall too. I was relatively awake between 5 and 6 AM, not being able to fall asleep. But my thoughts did drift, and in the middle of thinking about who knows what my awareness turned to simply opening my eyes, and that very second whatever I was thinking about was gone. I didn't so much as glance at the clock let alone start thinking about something else - this wasn't forgetting a dream, this was literally having my short term memory deleted right before my eyes. It was crazy. It wasn't a case of the mind simply not storing the memories or anything, it wiped them. Minutes of following drifting thoughts (definitely linked to the seconds prior..) just hit a brick wall.

Anyways. Lumi slept about 7 hours yesterday before being unable to go back to sleep at maybe 6AM. So he put on his sleeping mask and.. somehow managed to wake up at 12PM. Went straight from 7 hours of sleep to 13. So I'm staying up all night to fix our schedule, again. I've made sure I have nothing too time sensitive this time (just a paper or two to write), so for sure this time.


Oh wait, I didn't even write what I'd planned to write here yet. Cue paragraph one of three again.

I knew there was a reason I felt we weren't making progress, and I realized it while planning last night talking to Flan. You don't really dream on your first sleep cycle, or even your second. Practicing staying aware while almost asleep is great and all, but there was no chance of them actually getting to a lucid dream that way. Unfortunately to stay aware into the actual start of a dream, you'll need to start in the middle or end of the night. The longest REM cycles are the furthest into your sleep you are. But despite our ability to sleep in for ~13 hours if we try, practicing any sort of awareness past about 7 means we are simply not falling back asleep. Especially (but not even exclusively) if it starts to get lighter in our room. The darkness didn't even help Lumi at 5 AM yesterday. So in order to do this...

I need to sleep between three and six hours. At some point when I wake up, I need to stabilize my awareness without actually waking up the brain mentally. I have to remain aware enough to not fall asleep, but not so much that I wake up the brain and end up in the most likely scenario of just lying there for two hours. Should I actually get to any kind of hypnagogia or the starts of dreams themselves, I'll be set. I hardly have to worry about getting "too excited", and all of us are relatively trained on how to react to a lucid dreaming scenario, even Lucilyn. So if I get that far, our first real lucid dream is reserved for practicing stabilization, control over the dream, and familiarizing ourselves with all feelings associated with the process. Unfortunately that means our first won't be the big meetup everyone's waiting for. But again, we're not going for one spontaneous half-dream. We're going to master the skill of lucid dreaming.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
09-08-2016, 05:15 AM
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

Okay, I'm tired. And really hungry.. It's 3:30 PM as I write this, but (5:30PM) as I'm posting it.

Will wear a sleeping mask even though it lets some light through, will probably help me actually get back to sleep. Since we don't really get tired, there's a very distinct line between able to sleep and not. And it's very easy for us to cross over that line at any point before, during, or after actually sleeping if we do anything other than sleep.

Hmm, I can do it though. If I only sleep for a few hours after being awake this long, the body will give up before I do.

Entirely separate Ruxia album full of similarly mostly-sleep-music I've been listening to, for some reason this song is actually stuck in my head. I don't even know how that's possible.



Maybe it's just because I'm tired, it's all I can hear right now. We've got music playing in our head on some level of consciousness (including totally subconscious, so strange to realize a song has been playing in your head for an hour without realizing it) at almost all times, and boy is our brain's playlist random, open to any song we've heard in our life really. But I guess it's too tired to choose a new song right now.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

I keep forgetting to write these posts earlier in the day. I think I can still remember last night pretty well.

So, I felt pretty good about the awareness thing. About four times in a row after the first couple hours, I woke up and simply kept my thinking focused.. not on anything, just sort of in the center of my mind I guess. First few went on for anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes, don't remember, before just falling asleep. I don't remember any drifting thoughts though. After four I think I stopped trying and just slept as a sort of "control" like in an experiment, even if there wasn't much to test against.

Oddly enough the first four times I did try to stay aware, when I woke up I woke up sweaty. I have no idea why, the room was a normal temperature. After I stopped trying to stay aware into sleep, the next time(s) I woke up I was fine. Probably not coincidence, but I still don't know why. Regardless, it didn't work. That really was my best idea.

My next best idea is to not stop trying.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
09-09-2016, 11:53 PM
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Lucilyn's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Fun

oh right I'm supposed to post here

well as I mentioned in the chat thread
(09-10-2016, 05:58 AM)Lucilyn Wrote: Aaaah, I just wrote an essay! I've officially written as many as Tewi and like, what, a fourth Lumi has? (Just kidding)
It was about a topic of your choosing on how the world will be different and how it'll affect us in 25 years. So I wrote about deforestation.
My essay ended with "; I like frogs." so I feel like I've done my job.


aaaa I'm happy I helped, and now I get to sleep! I definitely enjoy sleeping more than any of the others. They don't know how to get cozy. It's a mindset and a skill, and I'm good at it.


and then I slept for 16 hours... the end!

Hi I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points.
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09-11-2016, 03:23 AM
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Lucilyn's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Fun

Uhh, good night?

Do I have to do something?

I'll think a lot about stuff I like and visualize it I guess, that probably helps make dreams more vivid.

Hi I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points.
All of my posts should be read at a hundred miles per hour because that's probably how they were written
Please talk to me https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
(This post was last modified: 09-13-2016, 01:54 AM by Lucilyn.)
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

She fell asleep well before doing that. Woke up in the middle of the night and tried again, fell back asleep somewhere between being in the wonderland and actually getting to her pond. Seems like I'm the only one that can function at those times, save for when Lumi and Flandre are together.

I don't have any particular plans. Still just working on the basics, staying aware between sleep cycles and dream recall. We're thinking about doing excessive reality checks for a few days straight this coming up weekend maybe, if schedule permits. Instead of reality checking a few times a day like we do now, we'd be making it a sort of 'event' and likely doing it upwards of 40 times a day, say saturday through monday. Unfortunately it's this short-term version that's likely to cause any DILDs. The long-term-literally-years-straight version has only helped verify we're lucid once we basically already are.

Also, Lucilyn was the first one to forget to title her post correctly, not counting the times we've edited it in seconds later. It serves as a daily reminder to reality check, so it's something we do try to remember.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
09-13-2016, 01:53 AM
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

I feel crappy even though it rained today. Need to find healthier foods and a colder climate.

I have nothing to say. I can see the moon through the clouds, so that's nice.




Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2016, 04:03 AM by Tewi.)
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Tewi's Dreaming Thread; Dreams of Rabbits

Still nothing on the topic of dreams. I'm kind of stressed out and I keep forgetting to do things.

I walked outside in the rain earlier, and I can see the moon more clearly now. So again, that's nice.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2016, 04:24 AM by Tewi. Edit Reason: Speaking of forgetting things... Title. )
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