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Traumagenic Plurality


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So iv been searching high and low for more information on traumagenic plurality for the last few days now.

 

I have suspicion that my tulpa may have originally been "born" back in 2008 after a life changing traumatic event (which explains the rapid development that we have made in such an insanely short time. I understand that the pace varies from person to person ,but my tulpa having form, personality, a mind voice and enough sentience to name herself by day one of discovering this phenomenon is rather suspicious). Iv asked her if this is the case but she either stays silent or swaps her answer every time I ask her.

 

If anyone has any info on this or can point me in the right direction to another thread or site, that would be much appreciated. Thank you :)

Aisha - April 15, 2017

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Tulpas are a form of non-traumagenic plurality. One regular visitor here, the admin of tulpa.io knows a fair bit about tramagenic plurality.

 

That said, learning about tulpa stuff tends to allow any plural to jump forward in skill.

 

Are you saying that you believe you accidentally forced an alter who has been around unknowingly for a long time? That actually happens quite regularly here.

 

Edit: In a few minutes I may put some links here.

 

Edit 2: err, not really. Most of my info comes from personal accounts.

 

It is more common to create a tulpa, (fast, because you have experience with dissociation), then later find alters hiding in the background.

 

The belief that trauma is tied to identity dissociation is a decidedly medical perspective. The truth is probably that trauma can encourage dissociation, but there is no real functional difference between that and natural dissociation.

 

Edit 3: Okay, one link.

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I believe so. Aisha (my tulpa) is usually very vocal but like I said, she either avoids or changes her answer when brought up so not entirely sure tbh. I really wish I could be more help on this end.

 

I'm a huge research nerd. When I learn of a new interesting topic, I dive into it to learn everything I can as fast as I can. I also have a long history of occult knowledge so that may have helped with my mind easily digesting what iv learned. That might have helped greatly with her development. (She does seem to have extensive knowledge for her age plus I have this feeling she's known me for a long time. Idk, it could just be me misinterpreting it all) Thank you for the quick response.

Aisha - April 15, 2017

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Welcome.

 

Consider this possibility. I don't know myself well. Most people know themselves decently well. They've been with themselves for many years.

 

For a person who does not know themselves well, they may be able to calculate PI to 100 digits and make the perfect pot pie, but they're just guessing when they try to figure out how they themselves work. Because the expectation of someone who can think well is that they can understand themselves well, they'll expect to know themselves well, and be surprised when they can't.

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That's actually rather poetic.

 

Well I know for a fact that I hardly know myself. Hell, I prefer to think of myself far lower than I might possibly be just to be on some level of comfortable certainty (despite Aisha saying otherwise) if that makes any sense. But for now I'll just take it for what it is and roll with it.

 

You seem to be rather insightful. Is there any direction you can point me in to further myself and Aisha? Or at the very least allow us to understand each other better? If not we completely understand.

Aisha - April 15, 2017

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I find my advice to be rather useful only when people run into trouble. So I say take chances, get messy, get stuck, and then ask for advice again.

 

Also, read some of the tips and tricks hosted on the site, to find ideas for things to do.

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Iv actually read pretty deep into all the forms, there's just so much it's a little overwhelming but we will do what we can one step at a time.

 

We truly appreciate your help. Em hotep :)

Aisha - April 15, 2017

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[Hail] Seems we were called. Not actually that knowledgeable on the topic, despite being originally traumagenic, though we do know others that know a lot more than us.

 

Origins are complicated. And so are definitions. And the lines can sometimes be blurry, and sometimes one can't figure out the origins of one's system or it takes a very long time to do so. There is a saying "all models are wrong but some are useful". If one particular flavor of plurality fits in some ways, writings and information by and about said flavor can be useful. And in ways that one doesn't fit, the writings and information will not be useful. Traumagenic plurality is generalized characterized by trauma causing plurality (generally through splitting) from a "young" age for some definition of "young" and then PTSD and plurality being wrapped/intertwined together in a way that it is hard to separate them without a lot of effort along with some particular effects (e.g. switching on triggers, surfacing, and/or etc.), or at least that is the current definition of the word. There are edge cases and there are ambiguities, but it is a useful model for many people. Whether the definition needs adjustment or not is definitely an argument that can be had. But in many ways it is not relevant. Along with what I said before, if it even part of it fits, reading up on it will be useful in at least some ways. It is also possible to missguess the origins of a person (originally, I though I was the original and S was a tulpa, but it turned out S was the original and I was a split). And then there are origins that really ride the line such as shard-seeded tulpas. Sometimes, a person sets out to make a tulpa and they end up mostly just drawing out someone who was already there or sometimes they do make a person but also draw out someone else into that person making a subsystem. And there are encouraged walk-ins and encourages splits. And trauma can make it easier for someone to walk in or for a tulpa to develop. Trauma can be the catalyst for someone making a tulpa. Sometimes PTSD and plurality get wrapped together even when trauma is not the cause of plurality. And define "young". It is all very complicated.

 

Some links you may find useful. Just note, links lead to links lead to links and some of them are very old. Always try to figure out the age of the information you are reading. There is a lot of stuff out there that is a few decades old that could needlessly scare you. That stuff is reactions to the psych/medical community of the 80's and 90's. Things are a lot better now, so don't let the old stuff needlessly scare you.

 

  1. Sarah Reece has a lot of good information on their webpage in general on trauma and plurality. Check out Multiplicity Links and Recovering from Trauma pages
  2. http://healthymultiplicity.com/ has a lot of links to many things as well as more than a bit of its own content including some useful comics
  3. LB system's blog has a lot of good information on traumagenic plurality and plurality in general if you read through it. LB system maintains Healthy Multiplicity above
  4. Solipsistful system's blog also has a lot of good information about plurality in general and origins of various sorts
  5. tulpa.io and its forum and other resources page. It is a community with a focus on the overlap of various kinds of plurality and has a number of systems of different origins, especially systems with mixed origins.

 

Hopefully you find some useful information and figure things out.

Tri = {V, O, G}, Ice and Frostbite and Breach (all formerly Hail), and others

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Thank you so much! Its very difficult to figure out where Aisha originally came from (whether that be from the past or literally the first 5 minutes of learning about tulpamancy), even shes not sure. We will be spend plenty of time researching your links and seeing if it might help jog her memory. But for the time being, we are going to take it for what it is and not dwell too hard on it. Maybe in due time we will figure this out, or maybe we never will. Thank you again. :)

Aisha - April 15, 2017

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