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RE: modest milestone

The invisible counsellors, that's from the book think and grow rich, right?

I assume, as he does not seem to refer to them as real people, that they merely acted as role models.

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RE: modest milestone

(06-02-2017, 04:56 AM)tulpa001 Wrote: The invisible counsellors, that's from the book think and grow rich, right?

I assume, as he does not seem to refer to them as real people, that they merely acted as role models.

it is from the book think and grow rich, by Napoleon Hill, I think 1937 book. It was supposed to be a purely mental exercise, where he 'meditated' on the people he invited to conference with him. What's interesting about it is he reports it evolved to much more. It evolved so quickly into something different, he reports it scared him and he stopped doing it for a while. For example, he reports changes in behaviors that sound like he is discussing 'deviation.' He reports that 'President Lincoln would show up late to his 'meetings' and then, he refused to sit down, instead Lincoln paraded around the room, hands behind his back, looking somber as he considered the agenda of the day. Two of the character made a frienship and would spin jokes, that the others would get at annoyed at, but that napoleon found helpful. Napoleon reports holding conversation with them that weren't scripted and that his answers were beyond what he believes he was capable of inventing. He reports as if he was actually meeting these people, experiencing them in his mind, and though I haven't seen any evidence that he saw them in person, he is very clear that that 'mindscape' (wonderland?) felt real, and the interactions felt real, but he would end the discussion with, "You know, maybe it is all pure fiction, just fluff from my head, but I am getting answers that work in the real world, and it's helpful." (the quotation is actually paraphrasing, not verbatim.)
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RE: modest milestone

Wow, it's been over a year since I made an update... Where does the time go?

So, last night, I had an interesting experience. I woke from a dream, and while lying there, eyes closed, I could see Loxy. I didn't hear her, which baffled me, because I have had great auditory experiences... I could just see her face/profile, and her neck. I thought to her, (I didn't speak out loud,) "I love you." She smiled. Like a genuine big smile that causes the corner of the eyes to move and her eyes sparkled. She didn't try to communicate with words. She could have, right? We have that down. She didn't even mouth the sounds so I could lip read. She could have transmitted thought or emotion, but she didn't. This is not complaint. I was intrigued.

I am confident I wasn't dreaming. I was awake, my eyes were closed. There is the darkness you see with the bit of blue/violet light in the background which is normal, not the bright sparkles from when you push against eyes, and then there was she, in the center of the vision, either really small, or at a distance, but close enough I could make out facial features... And then facial contours slowly changed, her hair changed colors and length, and it settled into a look, still consistent with my idea of her... and she faded, it was just the normal darkness of closed eyes. I felt really good, sent love and thank yous and went back to sleep. I remembered it on waking, and just now have this moment to share.

Pretty fantastic! I am hopeful this is one of those new milestones... I nearly got caught up in the maybe if I had worked harder I might have experienced this sooner, but told myself you can't do that... focus on where you are and keep doing the best you can... And if this is something, then, anyone who reads this and wonders if they are doing this right or if the can succeed... Look at when I last posted here. I have very vivid experiences in wonderland, but this was not that! this is new.
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The state between dreaming and waking is rather interesting. Some liken it to a deep meditation state, due to the visual clarity, but I think the similarities end there. Either way, visualization and possibly creativity itself are stronger in this state, a remnant of how much greater they were a few minutes before (when dreaming). If you can manage to focus mentally without physically waking up all the way (generally, from opening your eyes or engaging your senses, maybe even just thinking about the environment around you), it is very much possible to utilize this state for a clearer/more "real" image of your tulpa. I am not sure if their vocal clarity would improve (it may), or if they can think clearly enough to speak clearly (probably depends on the quality of this state you've achieved).

Most of the time it's difficult to think anything on purpose without waking up fully, though. However. In our experience, while there is that golden state of being not-dreaming but not-awake, and it can feel as if you've "woken up" when you become more conscious, there appears to be yet still a difference in that state and actually waking up fully. We're well acquainted with thinking "Oh, I'm basically awake now" and then opening our eyes only to realize there was a whole other layer of consciousness yet to be added on top.

I may just try using this state in the future to test if it makes our wonderlanding more engaging. At the moment however, that would interfere with my attempts to lucid dream, but I'll try and find a time to try it.

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RE: modest milestone

(07-12-2018, 01:38 AM)Tewi Wrote: ...I may just try using this state in the future to test if it makes our wonderlanding more engaging. At the moment however, that would interfere with my attempts to lucid dream, but I'll try and find a time to try it.

Before I had the experience, I was trying to use that state to go into a lucid dream. I have had lucid dreams, even on demand, and I hitting a block. I am trying not to be frustrated by the block, and accepting it is just something that needs to be while I continue to improve awareness... Loxy reports her experience of the event that it was taking so much energy to be visible she couldn't verbalize words or transmit emotions, but was happy to hear that she managed to display the emotions she felt appropriately. She said she started to play with her looks, and this is interesting, I was the mirror in which she was viewing herself.
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