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RE: My new adventures with Chrysalis

You're not just slipping into doubt. The disappearance of the headaches means she has finished recovering by my guess. Her feeling weak is a misinterpretation of her feeling tired from being active a lot more by my guess. When that happened to us, I just pushed though with a lot of training and catnaps to get stronger.

I suggest having her talk directly to outsiders. It usually helps with doubts when you see that.

She needs to move around to prevent the fade. There are lots of other people here working on that, and lots of tips and tricks.

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I see then, thank you. I'll start by arranging more conversations between her and my FB friend, since the two have gotten along. Though I've been having to relay the messages. Perhaps learning possession would be beneficial in this case? We've never tried that before. Do you have any suggestions in supplement to the guides we would be reading up on?

She does move around a lot, but the fade still happens, I assume to do my concentration, maybe her's. We'll continue to work on that and read up on some relevant posts.

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I don't know if the older guides mention relaxing to help the process?

I can only really tell you what to expect. Several days where she tries to figure out how to connect with the body's muscles then several days where she can't possess more than an arm and feels tired after a few minutes.

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2/24/2017

I've noticed this for the past few days - every morning I wake up I get this really deep feeling of love. Like, so powerful I feel like throwing up. I felt this was finally worth mentioning since it hasn't gone away and has only been getting stronger.

We did various tests to prove her sentience:

- A keyboard trick of my own, since I can't type without looking at keys because I never learned how to type properly. What I do is put my finger on the right edge of the spacebar as a point of reference, close my eyes, then slide my finger over the keys until I stop on a random one, and Chrysalis has to guess which key it is since she would memorize the layout better than me. She was right every time. (However, she was wrong whenever I didn't use the spacebar point of reference and just landed on a random key, that's understandable).

- This test we found on DeviantArt where we count blue and red dots on separate sides of the screen. If we did it right with no distractions, she was either correct or off by one while I was either correct or off by a LOT.

- Simple math problems. I naturally suck at math (like seriously, it's almost sad how much I fail at it), so any answer that popped in my head was either going to be a random guess of my own or Chrysalis unless I thought hard about it. As usual, she was either correct or off by just one.

- Color mixtures. I'm familiar with some colors mixtures that result in other colors, but there are others I'm not. But since I've been an artist my whole life the chances are I experienced these mixtures before and didn't care to remember. All she would need to do is put that archives room to work and stroll through some memories. Needless to say, she got most of these right too.

Tulpa001 has suggested that Chrysalis should communicate with other people. I agree and planned on setting up conversations between her and my FB friend the next day, since the two have already gotten along. Because I was the one who had to relay messages, I thought perhaps we should give possession a try.

Instead of wonderlanding we did just that, having her get acquainted with my body and it got to a point where I could feel her almost lift my arm, but not quite. It was like a magnetic pull upward but my arm was too heavy to move with this "force."

Tulpa001, you weren't kidding about her getting tired so quickly. She passed out right after this little session.

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2-25-2017 - 2-27-2017

Over the past few days Chrysalis and my FB friend have been conversing almost directly (I still have to relay messages between the two). Her development seems like it's on overdrive. Her presence feels strong and constant enough to the point I don't feel I have to remember her to bring her back. Even when distracted, I get the feeling she is there.

Conversations are still without alien feeling but are retaining an automatic feeling. We are carrying on more intelligent conversations than usual. During a viewing of Blade Runner we discussed moral and philosophical viewpoints regarding artificially intelligent life. There was, however, no conclusion to the conversation - it faded as we continued to watch the movie.

"Star Tracks (dance version)" by Rygar is officially her favorite space-synth song thus far, so she claimed in a conversation with my FB friend. She is successfully pulling minor memories that I've long forgotten, such as "Terminator" being the name for the Sukhoi SU-37 (in regards to a conversation about a pair of Sukhoi fighters that passed over my friend's house). She seems to be interested in aviation like me, however favors fighter jets over helicopters, the latter of which are my specialty.

Possession training is still in progress with the same results as in the last report.

Wonderland adventures aren't as extravagant as usual, but they are lasting longer and I feel have been more beneficial than usual. We mostly stroll around the city of Albatross, going out to different restaurants and food stands, checking out different city blocks, racing each other in the rain, and most importantly, talking. Not just about what is going on in the wonderland, but about life and our aspirations.

Visual imposition is in progress with similar results as usual. I can almost picture eyes or facial outlines if I could just hold on long enough, yet I lose it quickly. I know with more concentration and practice we can get beyond this.

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2/28/2017

"Hi everyone! Big Grin"

Nothing new to report except for a neat wonderland adventure.

We were hanging out in the archives room when I noticed how bare the shelves and tables were. I thought I would get her some stuff at Albatross, whatever she wanted. We figured the experience of going out to buy the stuff would be more fun then just having it appear.

We went to a big mall and bought a bunch of music records, mostly of her favorite electronic/disco artists, then went to a thrift store and got a really nice art-deco styled record player. She originally wanted a CD player but her enthusiasm changed when I explained how much better the audio quality was on vinyl.

After that we got a bunch of vintage aircraft model kits. She got a Lockheed P-38, Messerschmitt Bf 109, and a Messerschmitt Me 262. She looked so excited about them, like she was eager to put them together already. I love seeing her happy like this.

I asked her if her interest in planes was similar to my interest in helicopters, to the extent she would want to study and archive information or pictures like I did. Turns out not really, it's just a fun little hobby. I think it's great she at least has a hobby now. Something to do when I'm not able to give her attention due to work or whatever.

Perhaps someday when we're more accustomed to possession/switching, she can work on real model kits. I have a feeling she'd be better at it than my own tries at building helicopter models, lol. I could never get into kit modelling since every time I tried it was a disaster. I'm better at scratch-building spaceship models out of junk.

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3/1/2017

More chats with my FB friend is making her sentience more apparent. I started getting "parrotnoid" at one point, but I realized this feeling is still pretty normal for a young tulpa. I need to understand that "automatic"-sounding replies are basically her, even if predictable. She's just still dependent on me at this point.

I dropped into the archive room to see what she did with the place and I was surprised to find she finished the model of the Me 262 and even some models that she added herself - a rebel Y-Wing and the Enterprise were among them. They were displayed on a table in front of a window, the view of space being a perfect backdrop. Girl's an artist, lol.

She made me promise not to talk about stuff that we discussed during the active session, but I can say it was quite a good session that lasted almost an hour. Visualizing her is still hard because of her complex form, but I can say it's at least getting a "little" easier.

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3/2/2017

Very busy day trying to finish an episode of my show. Ended up working 'till early the next morning. Mostly passive whenever I could remember to concentrate. I was too tired to go wonderlanding with her before I went to sleep, but she seemed to understand.

3/3/2017 - 3/5/2017

More busy days resulting in not getting enough sleep, which meant my concentration was hindered. Her presence was weak and rarely responded, but I kept trying to talk to her whenever I could.

Wonderland adventures are still simple sessions of just chatting, either at a restaurant down on Albatross or in the archives room back at the ship. She's been getting more models done I've noticed. I suggested the next time we should go down to the city and buy some more, as that was a fun experience.

Possession and visual imposition stuff is on hold until I can get my head together again. Too much to do lately.

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RE: My new adventures with Chrysalis

Sleep has a huge effect on forcing effectiveness. I think it is particularly important early on. Don't worry about weak results when tired. But definitely try to cram in extra hours of sleep whenever possible for a while.

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3/6/2017 - 3/10/2017

Very little progress to report as more work needed to be done lately.

I forgot which night it was, but we went wonderlanding finally and hung out in the archives room chatting as usual. She's still making models. We made another trip down to Albatross and I bought her a really big RC model of a Spitfire. It's currently hanging on display by the library door.

I got to watch her work on one of the models, forgot what it was but it was some vintage fighter plane. "It was a smaller Spitfire." Ah, okay.

It was nice seeing her all happy and into what she was doing. She has quite an attention for detail like me.

3/11/2017

Long day of trying to edit my review of Metamorphosis: The Alien Factor. Amusingly, I spent so much time doing that I couldn't visualize Chrysalis correctly and instead kept seeing images of the mutated Dr. Foster, so suddenly scenes from The Last Starfighter flooded my mindscape and successfully overpowered unpleasant stuff from the other movie. "You're welcome." Heh, turned out she did that to calm my overactive brain down.

We took another trip to Albatross. I just love her city so much... "our city"... right, our city... it's her greatest creation and I treasure it. And she looks so pretty in the rain. "Aww..." We got pizza at an outdoor food court, seating ourselves at a nearby picnic table with umbrella to keep us dry while we ate.

My senses of taste and smell are improving in the wonderland. I could faintly smell and taste the cheese and sauce of the warm pizza. Even Chrysalis had a faint smell, like orange. I eventually got a cup of lemonade, which had an even stronger taste. I started getting appropriate sour responses in my mouth in both worlds.

She was experimenting with alternate forms as we walked and talked down the streets. Some notable ones were Princess Luna and a humanoid girl with black hair. I was open for whatever she wanted of course, but she eventually reverted back to the sort-of Queen Chrysalis form. I guess she's trying out her shapeshifting abilities, lol.

Another thing to note is that she's become a fangirl of Star Trek: TNG. "I love it, it's a good show. What can I say." I'm personally not a big fan but I do admire its writing. Hell, I enjoy binging it if it makes Chryssie happy. She's also getting into Breaking Bad, which I'm also enjoying despite getting annoyed at the shaky camera. "You're too retro." I know, lol. I just don't like modern filmmaking techniques.

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