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Okay, I've yet to make a Q&A thread- mainly because I've read most of the threads in this board, or I've asked on the IRC. I just need a few in-depth answers relating to narration and forcing.

note: I've finished personality creation, and I've given my tulpa a very basic form for pre-sentience and to practise visualising. I'm not planning on her having a proper form until sentience.

 

H-here I go...

 

Concerning narration:

  1. Does reading aloud count as narration? If not, is there anything extra you must do besides "just read aloud" in order for it to count as narrating?
  2. Does reading mentally count as narration? If not, is there anything extra you must do besides "just read mentally" in order for it to count as narrating?
  3. I have seen varying answers for this, anywhere from "use simple language" to "treat them like anyone else", but does the content of what you narrate really matter?
  4. I realise that trying to "send the feeling" of what you're narrating helps, but is it necessary?

 

Concerning forcing:

  1. Is narrating with your eyes closed whilst in a relaxed state and visualising your tulpa considered "forcing"? If not, what would make it so?
  2. Is there any other way to force between the personality - sentience gap that isn't just narration? Mind you, not as a replacement for narration, but as something to do to switch it up during forcing.
  3. Is visualising more than a basic form at all necessary until sentience? I'm not asking whether you would, in your opinion- but if it's necessary.
  4. Would you recommend proper visualisation work pre-sentience for someone who is quite bad a visualisation? Given that it will have to be worked on sooner or later.

 

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ITS NARRATING AS LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR TULPA IN YOUR MIND WHILE YOU READ IT. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW.

forcing is when you focus on your tulpa for an extended period of time.

Doing random things with your tulpa after personality is done. Retarded examples: brush hair, go on wonderland adventures, paint nails, massage, etc.

its easier to give it a form you derp.

yes, do it.

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1-2. Not sure, but it should entertain the tulpa. Stopping to talk to her about stuff now and then should make it more interactive and better.

3. I'd say use relatively simple language, but not babby stuff. More or less like someone who's intelligent but doesn't have a complete grasp of English yet.

4. Not really, I don't think, but sending feelings at other times is wonderful.

 

1. I'd say so - sitting and talking to her in the wonderland. It works on your visualization of her, as well as narration.

2. Do the other senses as well - touch, smell, etc., all the while talking to her about what you're doing and why, as well as other random stuff you care to discuss. But *do* tell her why you're doing stuff to her, so you're not an idiot who comes in, quietly feels her up a while and disappears.

3. Some people are going for sentience with no form at all.

4. Yes.

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1. Yes. But as Pronas already said:

ITS NARRATING AS LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR TULPA IN YOUR MIND WHILE YOU READ IT. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW.

 

2. Yes, but saying something aloud is always better.

 

3. It doesn't. The Tulpa just has to be able to learn from your language. It is, however, not necessary to use "babby" or overly simplistic language, since a Tulpa learns much faster than a child does. Just talk to your Tulpa like you normally do.

 

4. No, it isn't necessary.

 

Forcing

 

1. From my understanding it isn't. Forcing = Visualization. But there might be different opinions from different people.

 

2. I don't know any other "methods", apart from maybe writing about or drawing your character. Narration supposedly works best, and if you want something additional you have to come up with something yourself.

 

3. Actually, a form isn't needed at all. You just have to acknowledge the newly formed entity/presence.

 

4. No. I'd say, jump straight in and work on your wonderland as a practice. It is hard to fuck up a Tulpa.

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How you do it doesn't matter as much, although talking out loud might get your tulpa talking a bit faster.

The only important thing is being with your tulpa while you do this, make sure you're talking to them and not to yourself. Something that might help is if you visualize your tulpa in your wonderland and actually talk to them all the time, you could even imagine yourself sitting in the wonderland while talking to the tulpa. It's something inbetween narration and forcing, but not quite as taxing on your attention as closed eye forcing.

 

Everyone does things differently, but the most important thing about narration is that you're interacting with your tulpa. You know you're doing it wrong if you're just inserting your tulpa's name in your sentences as a verbal tick without really addressing them.

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Sorry about posting other questions in a Q&A thread, but it's kind of related so...

From what i gathered, there is indeed a lot of variety in the process of tulpa creation, and by now i'm thinking it would be possible to make the tulpa reach sentience without even closing your eyes once - if you choose to do personality by narrating her the traits rather than visualizing some symbolism, and if you narrate to its entity rather than to its form, which could be more or less defined or maybe even not defined at all. You don't even have to make a wonderland for that matter, although i am the impression that most of the userbase here does make one (but i could very well be wrong). Fun fact is, apparently there isn't any way of saying which way would work best with you, other than basically trusting your instinct, or maybe just going blindly in one random direction.

So then, the question is: how much of what i just said is bullshit, and how much is true? I'll gladly accept anyone's yogurt cannon opinion.

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Didn't have a wonderland when working on personality, not sure if my black void with a bed I have now counts as a wonderland, never visualized anything during personality except the very late ones after some visualization sessions. No symbolism, just words - lots of them - and no blue clouds or orbs or jars. I talked to him, just to the feeling of him. I could and still can feel him in that usual spot in my head I always seemed to have. I closed my eyes during personality forcing sessions but visualization is usually done with my eyes open, but not always.

 

I think it's going pretty well this far, no words yet, but he seems to be able to move and wake me up if I ask him to. So yeah, what feels best to you must be the right way for you, I feel.

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Sorry about posting other questions in a Q&A thread, but it's kind of related so...

From what i gathered, there is indeed a lot of variety in the process of tulpa creation, and by now i'm thinking it would be possible to make the tulpa reach sentience without even closing your eyes once - if you choose to do personality by narrating her the traits rather than visualizing some symbolism, and if you narrate to its entity rather than to its form, which could be more or less defined or maybe even not defined at all. You don't even have to make a wonderland for that matter, although i am the impression that most of the userbase here does make one (but i could very well be wrong). Fun fact is, apparently there isn't any way of saying which way would work best with you, other than basically trusting your instinct, or maybe just going blindly in one random direction.

So then, the question is: how much of what i just said is bullshit, and how much is true? I'll gladly accept anyone's yogurt cannon opinion.

Maybe, if you're good at daydreaming. Sentience itself may even be attainable without any visualization, but I don't know how easy it would be.

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