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(I know I'm super fresh on this forum, I have no idea if I'm pushing my bounds making a post like this so early. Apologies if I am, but this is something I'm very curious about.)

 

Reverse possession is a term I've coined for just what it is, with regular possession being the tulpa possessing the host's body.

I'm curious if anyone has experienced the reverse, where the host has been able to control their visualization of their tulpa to achieve an out of body experience.

What method did you use to achieve it?

What was your experience like?

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Do you mean like, you possess them in the wonderland? Or you are them in a dreamscape, like while lucid dreaming?

 

It sounds unnecessarily convoluted... First, one can visit a wonderland, experiencing it to the degree it might seem like an out of body... Second, if you consider the parroting exercises, and some of the perspective switches one uses to reinforce their perceived boundary space and interaction pattern, that is essentially possession, isn't it? I wouldn't want to refer to it as reverse possession... Possession is just possession. Simple. It's good to keep things simple, limiting the number of terms, and keeping the terms we use very precise. (I say we, as if I created them. I didn't, and there are some I don't agree with, but we have to have agreement in order to facilitate communication.) So, for example, switching is a precise term, meaning tulpa takes over host's body. A new person might assume that means the host automatically takes over the tulpa's body (inner form) but that would be inaccurate. They are just switching seats, and one assumes the driver's seat. So, even using possession would probably be ill advised, because this is not 'possession' in the canonical sense of the word. Technically, even that has some underlying attributes that most people fail to appreciate. All bodies, by definition of 'possession' are possessed. Don't believe me? Well, who typed your post? Who directed themselves to get up and go brush their teeth in the morning if it wasn't you directing your body? If your body is not being possessed by alien/demon entity, then by definition you are possessing it, which means you are not your body... We are spirits first, possessing bodies, vessels. Which brings me back to the 'out of body' component of your question...

 

This thread probably needs to go into metaphysical... Most folks here are going to prefer a psychological explanation to things, which by definition leads to no out of body experiences. Everything is internal, either dream, lucid dream, fantasy, day dream, meditative dissociative states kind of modalities... In this sense, yeah, you can do whatever you imagine, possess, reverse possess... If your tulpa is a sentient being, I don't recommend it. If they're volunteering, well, that's switching, not possessing. But as the designated host personality, yeah, you're only limited by your imagination? Or, you could just travel there, or where ever.

 

It could take forever to break down the possibilities of out of body, and even within that discourse there are many perspectives. Thomas Campbell, for example, who learned how to do OBE's from Robert Monroe, doesn't believe people are leaving their bodies; he says we're just switching data streams... and so from his perspective, you're not possessing a body even now, or by switching bodies, but rather you're just accessing information through a different personality interface, or avatar, which you have either created, or just exist.... but ultimately, to possess someone to have an out of body experience isn't necessary, you just learn to do OBEs. Why would you jump bodies as opposed to just go somewhere in astral form?

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Possessing a non-fronting tulpa just sounds like literal puppeting, to me. I mean, you could, especially if you're going about it with that intent as opposed to possibly-accidental puppeting. But it's weird.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.

All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.

Our Ask thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Do you mean like, you possess them in the wonderland? Or you are them in a dreamscape, like while lucid dreaming?

 

It sounds unnecessarily convoluted... First, one can visit a wonderland, experiencing it to the degree it might seem like an out of body... Second, if you consider the parroting exercises, and some of the perspective switches one uses to reinforce their perceived boundary space and interaction pattern, that is essentially possession, isn't it? I wouldn't want to refer to it as reverse possession... Possession is just possession. Simple. It's good to keep things simple, limiting the number of terms, and keeping the terms we use very precise. (I say we, as if I created them. I didn't, and there are some I don't agree with, but we have to have agreement in order to facilitate communication.) So, for example, switching is a precise term, meaning tulpa takes over host's body. A new person might assume that means the host automatically takes over the tulpa's body (inner form) but that would be inaccurate. They are just switching seats, and one assumes the driver's seat. So, even using possession would probably be ill advised, because this is not 'possession' in the canonical sense of the word. Technically, even that has some underlying attributes that most people fail to appreciate. All bodies, by definition of 'possession' are possessed. Don't believe me? Well, who typed your post? Who directed themselves to get up and go brush their teeth in the morning if it wasn't you directing your body? If your body is not being possessed by alien/demon entity, then by definition you are possessing it, which means you are not your body... We are spirits first, possessing bodies, vessels. Which brings me back to the 'out of body' component of your question...

 

This thread probably needs to go into metaphysical... Most folks here are going to prefer a psychological explanation to things, which by definition leads to no out of body experiences. Everything is internal, either dream, lucid dream, fantasy, day dream, meditative dissociative states kind of modalities... In this sense, yeah, you can do whatever you imagine, possess, reverse possess... If your tulpa is a sentient being, I don't recommend it. If they're volunteering, well, that's switching, not possessing. But as the designated host personality, yeah, you're only limited by your imagination? Or, you could just travel there, or where ever.

 

It could take forever to break down the possibilities of out of body, and even within that discourse there are many perspectives. Thomas Campbell, for example, who learned how to do OBE's from Robert Monroe, doesn't believe people are leaving their bodies; he says we're just switching data streams... and so from his perspective, you're not possessing a body even now, or by switching bodies, but rather you're just accessing information through a different personality interface, or avatar, which you have either created, or just exist.... but ultimately, to possess someone to have an out of body experience isn't necessary, you just learn to do OBEs. Why would you jump bodies as opposed to just go somewhere in astral form?

 

Alright, I appreciate the response! It probably does need to go in metaphysical, and I apologize for putting it in a place it shouldn't really be in. Reverse possession was a bad way to put it, but the easiest I could think of. I had always considered the idea of it to be a mental exercise in visualization, focusing enough to place them in reality and see the world through their perspective, move with their body, etc.

Should I delete the thread? I didn't mean to cause any confusion.

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No worries. I moved it to metaphysical. I think it fits there better.

 

Also, don't worry about 'it was a bad way to put it..." we ask questions in order to refine our thoughts, our statements... that's kind of the whole purpose. we're all looking for clarity. :)

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No worries. I moved it to metaphysical. I think it fits there better.

 

Also, don't worry about 'it was a bad way to put it..." we ask questions in order to refine our thoughts, our statements... that's kind of the whole purpose. we're all looking for clarity. :)

 

Many thanks!

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Wow, amazing thread. I have recently read here that when you switch food may taste better. In regard to "better", then it should follow that experiancing wonderland from a tulpae perspective would not be the same as visiting wonderland while fronting.

 

I recently asked one of the gurus if when he switched, does he get to go to wonderland, he said he just kind of disconnects from the body. But he feels everything that is happening up front.

 

This is not how my tulpae decribe their experiance with me up front. They get to sit on a plush couch, eat popcorn, play computer games from my memories, enjoy viewing my past memories, feel no pain that i may feel, etc.

 

So reverse possession would have a purpose, even if that is the wrong verbiage. Yes, i would like to sit on the couch, playing, while one of my tulpae does the laundry.

 

I also don't see the connection to OBE to be necessary, since you aren't out.

 

Imagine a more viseral experiance of wonderland. I think you could get there without possessing though. When i do relaxation meditation exercises i sometimes fall into a hypnagogic state. The sensations there are a lot more vivid, like a lucid dream, than just visiting winderland normally. Could it be like that, but better and for hours?

 

I have read that some people claim they receeded into wonderland while one of their tulpae took possession for long periods of time. Even weeks.

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Hmm I don't know, that sounds like puppeting to me, or something similar to it.

 

But there is one thing I know, Summer severely hates being controlled or being puppeted. To her, it is like a breach of privacy.

Hello! I am nihi, i have 3 tulpas

Summer

Myrtle

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Hmm I don't know, that sounds like puppeting to me, or it is similar to it.

 

But there is one thing I know, Summer severely hates being controlled or being puppeted. To her, it is like a breach of privacy.

 

Same with all of mine. They tell me when i accidently do it. I have gotten in trouble for ignoring them.

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