Andrew June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 Here's something I was thinking about. Making a Tulpa is a very new idea (discounting the Tibetans. Their belief was metaphysical, ours is psychological. They are not the same idea.) And so, while we are trying to make it into a science of sorts, we are far from it. Everyone uses a different method for making a Tulpa, even if only slightly. Some people use wonderlands, some people don't. *cough* Fede. *cough* Everyone does things in a slightly different order, spending different lengths of time on each thing, using different meditation techniques. Dispite all of this, we seem to have come up with several seemingly agreed fundamental methods, and rules. Don't fall asleep while forcing. Dont puppet. Keep traits as few as possible. etc. etc. Surely though - and I say this on fear of everyone and their Tulpae hating me - there is no way for us to know if this is the 'right' or most efficient. Not even asking the Tulpa. And why? Because the Tulpa only knows as much as the host. With all due respect to Clair, would TOG falling asleep on her, really have caused horrible alien poking and prodding, if TOG had not thought, at least subconsciously, that falling asleep on the job is dangerous? I doubt it, especially considering there have been multiple reports of Tulpae being unharmed from the experience. And to use Clair as an example again, she seems to rely a lot on her wonderland, knowing she needs it. However, when Fede's Pinkie becomes vocal, I'm sure she'll be voicing her opinions on how useless such things are. In other words, we (and hence our Tuplae) do not know the most efficient, and correct way to make a Tulpa, even though our community seem to have made certain standards. Perhaps time will provide opportunity for methods to evolve and streamline, or possibly it may deviate the standards away from the optimum. I think the only way, really to get a better idea of the 'right' methods, is if there was another community, hypothetically, elsewhere, completely isolated from our ideas and methodology, evolving thier own standards. I think we'd all be suprised to see all of the differences, and indeed the similarities. Just something for you all to think about. "What did you do today?" "Oh, you know, got called a hater by a schizophrenic's marijuana-fueled wolf hallucination." "Righteous!" I call her Philos. My BLOG is updated daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitchthe3rd June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 There is no "right" way to make a tulpa, you're supposed to just do what feels natural for you. tl;dr on your post content. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireless June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 Well, that's indeed what seems most logical. We started following guides, advices, experiences of people that had worked on their own tulpae. Then the guides, advices and experiences multiplied. We're not anymore relying on a couple of FAQ's and methods, even though we're all working towards the same goal, there are both minor and major differences. The only thing that remains stable is the principle of creating a second conscience parting from one. I really like to see the huge differences one can find when looking through the community. We have people who did it insanely fast, some others seemingly slow. We have people that work with some kind of stimulus (auditory, visual...) and others that reject them. And don't get me started on experiences and stuff. There's this random factor that affects everyone, whereas the starting and finishing points are bound to be pretty much the same, the journey is as different as we're all different on our own. And it doubles when tulpae enter more advanced stages, given that their sentience allows them to draw some points on their own. For instance, my case: my tulpa won't talk unless we work on controlled speech practices. That wasn't on any guide, but it's happening. And like this, you can see around the forum all the interesting paths people take. So yeah, I think this is my longest post, but I find this the most interesting subject. What is "right" and what is "wrong"? We have drawn several common ideas to avoid to make everything flow, and even those are based off the knowledge the community as a whole possesses, and the experience of the members with finished tulpae. I say, since in some time we'll have more people that went through the whole process, the resulting comparative will keep expanding possibilities and helping us differentiate the good and bad aspects of tulpa creation. tl;dr subjectivity. http://wirelesslog.tumblr.com/ - My tulpa blog, updates regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 I don't think it's a too-good idea to define standards. For instance, parroting can actually be useful and has helped some people improve development*. Some other people like to keep 40-50 traits (reasons unknown), so that can't really be defined as standard, either. I think the only standard we may have right now is the "Don't fall asleep." one, although maybe that could even be challenged as well**, seeing as the idea of developing a tulpa through lucid dreaming is wavering about, and no one has really done this yet. The best we can do right now is just provide advice to those that seek it. When I spread my faggotry, it's just opinions and personal advice; I merely just hope that people will do it my way, but they don't have to. * No, Clair, you're not the only tulpa in the world. ** Still not the only tulpa in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 Like glitch said, there is no right way. What we currently recognize as standards aren't even 100% consistent. Edit: Clair says: Exactly fede, and yet it appears that I'm the only one that ever gets the volume of questions I do. It's fucking ridiculous. Other tulpae exist, people. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyGuy65 June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 I would like to say that some people (me) are using metric fucktons of traits, as they (I) want her to have a very well-defined personality. I would also like to say that the people who don't use lots of traits are still looking for quite specific personalities in their tulpae, even if they don't acknowledge or consider it. Everyone breaks away at least once from the guides and the "agreed" AHAHAHAHAHAHA rules. We need more guides from successful people, we wouldn't if everyone wasn't deviating from the established methods in the first place. We are working out a variety of methods for people to experiment with and select what works for them. Nothing's standard, and everyone's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 To throw in my two cents, some people may intionally mess with the process. Some may want to be able to puppet/parrot at the end of the process. I for one want my tulpa to have a fucked side by fallng asleep while forcing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyGuy65 June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 I for one want my tulpa to have a fucked side by falling asleep while forcing. Clair must hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 Clair says to have fun with a tulpa that knows you did that to her on purpose. I'd also like to add that that isn't even necessary, since you could just add a trait or two that's like "Fucked-up". Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous June 15, 2012 Share June 15, 2012 Clair says to have fun with a tulpa that knows you did that to her on purpose. I'd also like to add that that isn't even necessary, since you could just add a trait or two that's like "Fucked-up". Speaking from non experience, I you beat a really small child, it won't know who dunit, but it will always have a messed up side. I want that. If I include fucked up it would probavly be for the best, as it would turn out someone who would like to watch gore thread with me and not want to make me like those pictures. And clair, I hope you read your new tumblr questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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