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Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
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RE: Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
No offence meant. Let me answer your questions more directly.

(11-03-2016, 09:03 PM)ConjoinedMinds Wrote: Well, first, I did not ask you what YOU thought about DID and tulpas but WHERE you heard someone suggest the link.
I heard about it on this site.

(11-03-2016, 09:03 PM)ConjoinedMinds Wrote: Secondly, you are very wrong about alters. As I said, I have a dissociative disorder and, not only am I an alter, but I know my fellow alters well enough to know that we are people, not emotional states.
You haven't considered, have you? You don't have DID, because you don't have that kind of alter. I mean, it's obvious. I warn you, though, people who think their alters are people are usually offended by that word. Call them thoughtforms.

(11-03-2016, 09:03 PM)ConjoinedMinds Wrote: Third, I don't think using a self-help diagnostic scale for DID is best because DID is one of the most severe dissociative disorders.
It's not a self help diagnostic scale. It's a screening test.

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11-03-2016, 10:24 PM
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RE: Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
Okay, Cullen here.

Hi, Tulpa001!

That long, impassioned post was by our host. I stand by everything she says but I want you to know that what you said about alters not being people upset her deeply and made her cry. We know it was not an insult but ignorance. Still, when someone tells you they have a mysterious condition, ask questions, don't opine. I know you thought she asked you what you thought, but she didn't. I'll tell you, the worst part about mental illness is not the illness itself but the fact that healthy people don't understand at all what it feels like to be mentally ill. So, I'm sorry if it seems like we chewed you up and spat you out. We aren't angry with you, Tulpa001. We just go on the defensive because we have to.

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11-04-2016, 12:39 PM
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RE: Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
Well, um I think you may need to read what I wrote more carefully. I am literal minded.

And take my advice about not identifying as an alter. Alter is short for alternate personality. As in an alternative to the original. Personality of a person.

Please don't get mad at me for quoting official diagnostic standards for DID.

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11-04-2016, 05:06 PM
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RE: Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
(11-04-2016, 12:39 PM)ConjoinedMinds Wrote: I'll tell you, the worst part about mental illness is not the illness itself but the fact that healthy people don't understand at all what it feels like to be mentally ill. So, I'm sorry if it seems like we chewed you up and spat you out. We aren't angry with you, Tulpa001. We just go on the defensive because we have to.

"You sound very much like you assume that he doesn't know mental illness, and I'm certain you don't need to be mentally ill to know what mental illness is like. Some people have been mentally ill in some way and got better, try to remember that. Don't ever assume that you are the only one with your problems, it makes you look like a self-centered A-hole."
"Also, you had no reason to go on the defensive. If you don't like it, you don't need to agree with it. Plain and simple."
"I am sorry if I seem rude, just your excuse is an awful reason. Never say just 'because we have to', and never assume people don't understand."

Wait, I thought you said WEAST.
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11-04-2016, 05:28 PM
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RE: Tulpas and Dissociative disorders screening for correlation
[Hail] Have known more than a few plurals of different sorts in person, some tulpamancy systems, some OSDD systems, some DID systems, some mixed and read the writings of many more (by the way, there are more than a few OSDD and DID systems in this community). The members of each kind can be quite varied between systems and within them. Some members of each are rather one dimensional, some are definitely fully defined N-D people, some in between, etc. with most changing over their lifetimes. Basically, members of DID systems aren't all single emotional states. Nor is that the case for OSDD systems or tulpamancy systems. Some members of such systems are indeed, but definitely not all. As for the term alter, it is a term with some baggage but some members of DID and OSDD systems identify with it. It is OK if they do, and one should use the term for them if that is what they prefer. Just, one shouldn't apply it to people without their permission.

On the subject of making tulpas, I have known a few DID systems who have made tulpas who have said it was easy (but I am sure there would be some who would say it is hard), I have known a few OSDD systems for which tulpamancy was easy and others for whom it was hard and others who were mixed bag (my own system would be in this situation if we are an OSDD system (unknown, not diagnosed up or down yet)).

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11-05-2016, 01:33 AM
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