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Recurring Intrusives

I've known my headmate for about a year at this point, she's fully vocal and self sufficient and the whole journey has been pretty smooth.
However I've had something quite annoying begin happening over the past few months. Rather often when visualizing her or occasionally visualizing anything, or sometimes even just feeling textures if things in the distance it's as if my ethereal/mind self sneezes a shit ton of snot all over the place. Typically with Intrusive objects or actions you simply ignore them and move on as if nothing g happened, we tried this however in my irrationallity somewhere along the line I got parranoid that I would associate various repeating visual intrusions with visualizing Zeryx, all the others have subsided except this one which remains persistent. It doesn't happen every time I intend to visualize or project myself however it happens at least daily and frequently enough to be far more than a petty annoyance, at this point.

I'm not really sure if there is much I can do at this point besides ignore it and hope it vanished eventually, but a simple forethought/parranoid desire that it doesn't happen, results in snot being sprayed all over my sister.
If anyone has any advice to combat this issue please lemme know as I would seriously appreciate it.

This could also double as a general discussion surrounding intrusives, their apparent origin, and how to remove them, or any funny stories about random shit happening in the mind space.
06-03-2018, 01:08 AM
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RE: Recurring Intrusives

Intrusive thoughts are a native aspect of the human psyche. In old Russia, small children used to play a game about standing on a street corner and trying not to think about a polar bear. This "game" is nearly unbeatable, for sooner or later, that very polar bear would sneak in and spell defeat for the kids at play.

I used to have extremely disgusting intrusive thoughts myself. I cannot speak for all, yet my own apparently stem from various insecurities, fears and other disruptions incurred from equitably undesirable circumstances undergone in my private life. Right now I struggle with increasingly violent and gripping compulsions paired with said intrusive thoughts and I find sanctuary in the fact that our thoughts are only thoughts, piping up when we least expect due to the human mind's cavernous mental architecture and at times unpredictably irrational behaviour. My tulpa assures me that nothing of what I "see" in my thoughts will ever happen and she is very confident the intrusive thoughts will only be as weak and flimsy as the disparate and insignificant malevolence that spawned them to begin with. So long as you do not cede too much belief or invest too heavily in these intrusive thoughts, they shall wither away and crumble to specs like unfed weeds dying under brutally oppressive heat.

To put it into another perspective, intrusive thoughts in my own opinion are like the mental counterpart of excrement, or in your case, mucous: gross and unpleasant, but necessary for us to expel hygienically so we may continue living thus. Rather than fixating upon or taking too much stock in these consequences of living, we should acknowledge why such byproducts exist and shift our focus towards more productive and meaningful things (easier said than done, I realise, but once you habitually discount and understand why and how these thoughts manifest, you will slowly yet assuredly find yourself in more agreeable mental places).

I've seen good people bleed
And I thought I'd seen it all
But my own two eyes would prove me wrong that day.

There are things that I've done
Only seen by the sun
And those things will be buried in my grave.

06-03-2018, 02:16 AM
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RE: Recurring Intrusives

Couldn't have written it more eloquently myself.
There are various reasons we shouldn't explore here that the mind gets attached to cycles of rather disastrous modes of thinking. The lucky thing about our minds are the amazing capacity for us to rewrite the wiring of our neurons, by creating new associations we can override and eventually completely eradicate the diseases that feed themselves with our dying minds and fetid past. Meditation is, imo (which isn't a superbly educated or experienced) is the best way to do this, especially for habitual thought patterns and especially for habitual actions that may or may not be detrimental. Because let's face it, if something happens habitually we should examine it and understand why even if it isn't a hindrance to our overall growth.

That being said removing such rot from the food of our psyche is easier said than done, as it takes a good bit of discipline and dedication. The most important aspect going into remedying any malediction as these would be to know intuitively that we are the gods of our own minds and the activities of them. That is to say nothing can determine what occurs in them besides ourselves, we are in control completely of our urges, thoughts, and therefore actions and habits.
There is something to say about outside circumstances that result in changes outside if our control, but even in these situations it is our will and resolve that determines how blistered we come out of it.

Starving and suffocating the pestilent intruders of our minds is how we may rid ourselves of them. I suppose we might try drowning the mucous with new associations and activities in thought.
06-03-2018, 12:27 PM
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RE: Recurring Intrusives

@LucidAnomaly

thank you kindly.

What you describe as "rewrite the wiring of our neurons" had been first introduced to me by means of cognitive therapy. The licensed specialist treating me at this point in time had stated that even by purposely thinking in different ways do we give rise to new and goodly resurgent neural pathways.

I do encourage you to meditate. I draw inspiration from the Islamic poet Rumi when he describes a spiritual gathering in: so as the trees fall to a barren state in the cold and bear lush beauty and delicious fruit in nutritious sunny warmth, we too ought to withdraw into ourselves and supply finer appraisal so ideal conditions may be fostered. Outside of prayer or "emptying out" (entering a certain mode of thought wherein you feel almost invisible, hollow or transparent, like a kind of ingress to a shallow edified state) there are few common roads to cathartic resolution.

Do not be discouraged if you feel like your efforts are being rebuffed by the seemingly hostile and rudely inconvenient thoughts. It may be a small comfort yet remembering the good times you've felt with your tulpa can be soulfully enriching stuff. Should you feel the need you can also imagine being held or protected by Zeryx. I find this imagery to not be desperate or unreasonably clingy but rather a symbol of the mutual trust and love you both share.

I've seen good people bleed
And I thought I'd seen it all
But my own two eyes would prove me wrong that day.

There are things that I've done
Only seen by the sun
And those things will be buried in my grave.

06-04-2018, 08:41 AM
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RE: Recurring Intrusives

here's a post by my host about invasive thoughts and ironic process theory (a big part of the problem with them most the time)
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-wond...#pid153006

basically the short version is you needa' stop paying attention to the invasive thoughts like they matter, because giving them attention (trying not to think of them counts) is what makes you focus on them, even if they happen if they're not something you wanted then you need to not give them credit as actually having happened as far as you're concerned

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08-22-2018, 03:16 PM
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RE: Recurring Intrusives

You have more experiance than me with Tulpas, i have had them four months, but i have has intrusive thoughts occasionally.

I understand it can be very annoying to have the same thing happen again and again, has happened to me too, and thus difficult to combat.

How I do it:

1. I ask one of my tulpas to fight it. She will, and she suceeds 99% of the time in moments.
2. I 'push it out the door'. Outside that door is basically nothingness, anything put there is eventually reabsorbed.
3. We agreed that intrusive thoughts are to be ignored, we aren't allowed to have hard feelings about them.

I believe intrusive thoughts come straight from the subconsious mind. You don't have any control over that. But the consious mind is all yours. For us, we do not let them hold any purchase, we simply irradicate and move on.

How do you clean up an entire world of slime? Simply put, you just do, just as fast as it happened, and move on. Saying nothing more about it.

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08-22-2018, 05:19 PM
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