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I'm wondering what kind of power tulpas have over your body, I've heard all kinds of things, like they can give you perfect memory and can block off pain. I'm wondering whats true and whats not.

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Lucilyn: It's not really "what's true and what's not", it's just how it is for some people, or not. A lot of peoples' tulpas can help them remember things or dull pain from stuff like headaches. But I don't think that's really unique to having a tulpa, I think it's just a believable catalyst for placebo. Which totally isn't a bad thing, 'cus that's literally all servitors are and they're super useful. Like, often when doing imposition (training your senses to treat your tulpa like it's in the real world) people feel slight sensations of heat when touching their tulpa, which even we felt. But that's obviously placebo.

 

As for us, we can't do any of that stuff. No more than Lumi could do on his own, anyway. Generally he likes to figure out how to do things without symbolism/placebo. But if you count it, we can switch (take control of the body/mind) and change a whole lot of how "his" mind works. 'Cus at that point it's our mind, I guess. Like for most of us the depression he normally has that demotivates him and such doesn't affect us, in varying ways. Flandre is pretty much just like him, but Reisen doesn't think anything negative, Tewi doesn't acknowledge any unproductive thoughts at all, and I'm me. I guess, compared to him, I'm better at having fun. Yeah, a lot better, I'm way better at being happy and not worrying about stuff. Is that a tulpa ability? Or just us being ourselves?

 

I don't think I'd call any of it an "ability" really. All just subjective ways of doing things you already could. Placebo can be a powerful tool, though, so don't underestimate what a tulpa "can or can't do". 'Cus that literally detracts from their ability to do.

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I think it is rather difficult to draw the line. Technically they can achieve anything you could achieve yourself. With the right training you could block off pain yourself, or train your memory in a certain way to remember really complex stuff like nearly endless numbers. So both would be surely possible, but not every tulpa will develop abilites in this certain direction with ease.

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Something I have been experimenting with my Tulpa is having them help me deal with the cold. I am not fond of it in the slightest, though my Tulpa feels much more at home in much more frigid environments. When they take pity on me, I have noticed a markedly reduced sensation of discomfort due to the cold. Multiple trials were ran to make sure that it was not just placebo, e.g. acclimation or numbing. Since it happens at the flip of a switch with an immediate, drastic reduction in coldness, I think it is a success. Of course, it does not stop the body from having cold-temperature responses since it is not like heat is being magically generated.

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Only the limits of what you personally could do with your imagination or mental discipline. A tulpa is basically part of our mind so...

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Hmm, placebo - I suppose that could be different from case to case.

'cause, like... when I ask Rina to do something, like making me feel warmer, making me less drowsy or something like that - she says there's definitely actual "methods" behind what she does.

As in - she actually does do something specific to achieve the respective goal.

 

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When I say placebo, I don't mean what's happening is fake or of no importance. I'm saying the means you used to accomplish it are either symbolic or arbitrary in that you could theoretically do the same thing directly on your own. Every servitor ever is basically that, a way to get your mind to do something it technically already could but you didn't really know how to. I'm not saying the methods are useless or meaningless either. Maybe placebo is too strong a word since everyone gets upset when I use it.

 

When I touch Reisen's imposed hand and feel warmth, it's certainly not really happening, but the fact that she's "there" is why it happened. Technically you could do the same thing by imagining a fire, and if that's possible, you could ~just do it, without any of that. But of course that's not something humans are very good at. Writing in a journal can help you realize things you didn't really know even though you've technically gained no new information, it's the same thing. Technically you could have just known that information, but the method in which you get to it can make it infinitely easier and more accessible. It's the same way when a tulpa helps ease a headache, or really does anything for you. You could have done it on your own, physically, but you probably didn't know how. Your tulpa is your method of doing it, and often times uses symbolism too. There's also literally everything in spirituality like clearing your chakras or working with energy. The symbolism provides a very real effect you couldn't otherwise think of how to do. Isn't that a placebo? When a sugar pill cures your headache, because it enabled you to cure your headache, isn't that the same thing? You could make a practice of taking sugar pills when you have headaches as your method for doing that.

 

I dunno, maybe there's a better fitting word but I have no idea what it is. I suppose placebo implies nothing is really happening.. but that's kind of true? Reisen is not actually touching my hand, the pill is not actually curing my headache. But I believe they are, and I feel the effects. Unless your tulpa literally *just does it*, which is possible, they probably do something symbolic to help you believe it. I know Mistgod's got a computer in his wonderland that does all sorts of things, but it's just symbolism. And that's not a bad thing.

 

I think we've got another "Make-believe" problem, where people are applying a negative stigma to a word or thing and getting upset at its use. Your tulpas are imaginary, that means they were created and exist in your mind. It doesn't mean they're not "real", any more than they already aren't, ie in a physical sense. But people automatically think it does. Your tulpa curing your headache, in any way other than just saying they will and having it instantly be gone, is a placebo, and it's real in the sense that it causes an effect.

 

Symbolism, imagination, and IMO placebo or whatever word have you, are all essential parts of tulpamancy. We can't pretend tulpas aren't any of those things just because of the negative stigma you associate with them. Being imaginary does not mean not real. Achieving something through symbolism does not matter any less than through a more direct and practical method. And having your tulpa cure your headache by convincing you they're curing your headache is what it is. It's placebo, but in a way similar to 90% of our thoughts anyways. People tell themselves thousands of things that aren't objectively true or realistic, and those things still have very real effects on them. That's the nature of the human mind, and it's why we attribute so much importance to the term "subjective" in this community. Belief is a powerful thing, and often times it's not something we can consciously perceive or get a grasp on. But that doesn't mean that it's not there or being utilized. If a placebo works for someone and then stops working when you tell them it actually doesn't do anything, it's because their belief changed from "this works" to "this doesn't work", not because the placebo's effectiveness changed. Whether that person realizes it or not, their belief on the matter affected them in a real way.

 

 

... Anyways... Tulpas can do whatever you believe they can, because they can. Unless you think they can't and then they can't, because they can't. Use this knowledge to your advantage if you're able, and if you're not then it may be best to forget everything I just said. Red pill or blue pill, I suppose.

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Now, this is going to be a matter of pure speculation, but as far as I hypothesize, Tulpa are going to have much more access to your subconscious. As such, they could more readily enable your mind to do stuff that would take a lot of will and practice to do otherwise. Humans are able to manage extreme feats of tolerance via meditation and conditioning- take for example the Xiaolin monks. In a way, having your Tulpa help with sensations is like taking a shortcut to achieve the necessary meditative state in a manner akin to symbolism overall. Since we are talking specifically about sensation, something that is inherently subjective, placebo is a significant aspect.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

 

"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius

 

“Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.” -Neil Gaiman

 

"The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried." -Stephen McCranie

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