Jump to content

Wonderland and tulpae falling apart?


LilyCake

Recommended Posts

Last September I created a few tulpae without knowing. They gained sentience (I think) around November or so. Then in December I went home (I live in a dorm) for winter break and I felt horrible and depressed, as I always do when I see my parents, and I barely talked to my tulpae at all. I came back to my dorm a few weeks ago, expected everything to be the same but they're not. I've only successfully reached my wonderland 3-4 times, while last semester I could enter and exit the wonderland without even trying. Now I've having trouble even visualizing the wonderland. What do I do? Could tulpas be unintentionally destroyed? Why is it so hard for me to dissociate now?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

An essential rule of tulpamancy is that tulpas live with the host's attention as fuel. Tulpas require attention, on both the emotional and focus level, from the host, in order to live on and live well. At least, that goes for young tulpas more than developed ones. Tulpamancy tends to be somewhat like riding a bicycle: it's hard to forget, but you may have an accident in which you temporarily lose the capacity. The accident, in your case, is that lack of attention, and potentially motivation. A tulpa's energy dips down with the host's lack of care, at first. Things tend to get better when the tulpa grows up, but considering they gained sentience in Nov, it hasn't been that much of a while.

 

What you could do is force. I am not too educated on tulpas formed without any knowledge (and regard my own case as something more complex than 'walk-in'), but what you could essentially do is that you could practice passive forcing. Engaging conversations, narrating to your tulpas and calling them by name.

 

In the end, though, you need to think; is this a good, or bad thing? Do you want tulpas you cannot care for?

 

Ah, I'm too tired. I only came here to help.

« — Va, je ne te hais point ! »

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For people without a natural talent for visualization and similar skills, you have to maintain at least some activity to keep your skill up. Visualization is the strongest "use it or lose it" example I can think of. Just for me personally, I can practice a lot over a couple weeks and get some decent clarity, but if I don't for like two months after that, I'm right back where I started.

 

This may also apply to communication with your tulpas. They aren't gone, but without maintaining decent connection with them every so often (varies by person, but no communication at all for over a week might start causing slight skill loss), it may be harder to communicate with them once you start trying again. The only thing to do is force more. Gotta spend time trying to hear them again, getting responses and all that. But if you do it shouldn't take too long until everything's fine again.

 

I personally go through this crap like a cycle. My tulpas are active for a while, then they're not, then I have to spend extra time trying to get them active again, and so on. But at this point it takes less than a day to get them active once they've been totally dormant, 'cus I've been doing this for years.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

[Tri] It could take some time and practice before you are able to visualize your wonderland again. Importantly, there is usually no need to be able to reach wonderland to be able to interact in some way with your tulpas (force). Try talking to them even if you don't hear any responses. For example, focus on them and tell them about your day. Eventually, they might be able to respond and/or you be able to hear their responses (either one of these or both could be the problem). This is all separate from trying to visualize your wonderland again.

Tri = {V, O, G}, Ice and Frostbite and Breach (all formerly Hail), and others

System Name: Fall Family

Former Username: hail_fall

Contributor and administrator on a supplementary tulpamancy resource and associated forum, Tulpa.io and Tulpa.io/discuss/.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Tulpamancy tends to be somewhat like riding a bicycle: it's hard to forget, but you may have an accident in which you temporarily lose the capacity.

 

That is a perfect analogy. Nice.

 

I personally go through this crap like a cycle. My tulpas are active for a while, then they're not, then I have to spend extra time trying to get them active again, and so on. But at this point it takes less than a day to get them active once they've been totally dormant, 'cus I've been doing this for years.

 

My system is cyclical like this too, both with overall activity and with who's active at any given time. Can't say we have as much luck pulling dormant headmates back into being active, but that may be something practice can alleviate, so who knows?

 

That said, tulpae are hard to destroy outright... we don't really go backwards once you develop us. We might "go away" for a while, but we can come back just as easily and with just as little warning. On top of the suggestions the others are giving, try doing an activity your tulpae would be interested in. That might pull them toward the front and get you interacting with them, even without needing to visualize the wonderland as Tri said.

~ Member of SparrowNR's system ~

~ I am a soulbond. Click here to find out what that means. ~

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Last September I created a few tulpae without knowing. They gained sentience (I think) around November or so. Then in December I went home (I live in a dorm) for winter break and I felt horrible and depressed, as I always do when I see my parents, and I barely talked to my tulpae at all. I came back to my dorm a few weeks ago, expected everything to be the same but they're not. I've only successfully reached my wonderland 3-4 times, while last semester I could enter and exit the wonderland without even trying. Now I've having trouble even visualizing the wonderland. What do I do? Could tulpas be unintentionally destroyed? Why is it so hard for me to dissociate now?

 

If you're looking for a consistently detailed wonderland, you're going to need to visualize more often. Practice makes perfect, so start with simple things and work your way up to more complex ones. There's a good number of visualization exercises/guides here, so check that out when you get the chance. When it comes to the tulpas, you're going to need to do more work - do regular forcing sessions. I also wonder if NoneFromHell's tasks could help you any.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can't say we have as much luck pulling dormant headmates back into being active, but that may be something practice can alleviate, so who knows?

 

I'm not sure how long your headmates have been around, but if it's been actively (as active goes for us) for more than three years, I dunno, might just be how you are.

 

Otherwise, mine have been around for about seven years now. So yeah, it could definitely be practice. At the very least, I've gotten better at getting them active again, even if it's the same as it's always been. No more worry or doubt, plenty of patience, and I've got a pretty good ethic for it. Basically, I treat them like I always would, and whenever I can't hear their responses I assume what I think they'd have said (which we're all pretty good at).

 

The one thing we might've gotten actually better at though is presence. Almost immediately I can feel their presence, can even impose them if I want. The part that takes some time is the communication, not their existence. Can't say they'd be running and jumping around exactly, but they're capable of basic movement while imposed, while talking is quiet with occasional moments of pure mindvoice. Which, again, I now treat as if were full sentences, so conversation still flows. It helps.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To put it simply, you're out of practice. A lot of this is about keeping up a running process, something along the lines of "persistent memory". By not focusing on it for a while, the memory become hazy and mostly lost. You can bring it back, but you will basically be like restarting. You have the framework still, but you have to recolor the details.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

 

"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius

 

“Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.” -Neil Gaiman

 

"The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried." -Stephen McCranie

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you believe they can be.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...