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RE: Yes, I'm a tulpamancer, and no, I don't have a disorder!
"Just because someone tells you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it" and yet there is a big difference between a voice you hear in your head and someone physical telling you to do this and that, it's just not the same thing, schizophrenics for instance act on what the voices tell them to do and not because they were born with the will to hurt people

"they literally said[...]" okay, so let's look at the consequences of maladaptive daydreaming. let's also look at the consequences of DID, the consequences of schizophrenia, the consequences of psychosis, because those three do bring common points to the discussion we're having in this specific community, of course, you can't possibly compare say tulpamancy to schizophrenia (considering schizophrenia is more than 'seeing and hearing people that are not here' and even then you could not compare how you hear a tulpa to schizophrenia's symptoms BUT in concept there is similarity) DID as well since there is some involvement of dissociation that is actively forced when people 'switch in', we can't just look at the direct consequences a moment, a day, two days after it happens because the human brain takes time to react as well, things like maladaptive daydreaming progressively lead people into getting detached from reality, giving too much importance to fantasy, need i honestly remind all of you of David and Melian as a prime example of the consequences and how you can end up a complete disaster??

how about the people like mario (who ended up writing a fuckin book lol) about fuckin like brain trips or magic or some shit of the type, how about the people like trevor_/whatever his name was who went crazy over some tulpa drama? how about the people like anton and shine with anton being overtly obsessed to the point of full psychological dependence, i've talked to hosts who were dissociated (meaning that their tulpa was "switched in" for a long while) for months, one of them had their tulpa switched in for a complete year, and missing out on a year of your lifetime doesn't sound too dandy

hearing voices in theory doesn't mean you're crazy, you're looking at the consequences from specific cases to draw a conclusion, and to say that 'most' people in the tulpa community have nothing wrong with them is inaccurate as hell because from what i've seen and can quote here, most people have a bad history of say i don't know abuse, trauma, etc... to the point hearing a voice IS the consequence and not something like 'my inner voice this and that', and while there are obvious exceptions to the case (people like you for instance), you just can't say that people don't have something wrong with them because then you're just completely and fully ignoring all dots, you only have to connect them to see a very obvious relation between this and that, it's interesting how most people with a lot of tulpas in their 'system' do/did have problems of their own that lead them to detach themselves from reality, create a world in their head, create a coping mechanism that takes away from problem solving and gives more space to sedating one's self with pleasant thoughts instead of actively finding solutions... and even then, even if they do use say i don't know a 'headmate', a 'tulpa', a 'soulmate' to find a solution to their problems, remember, it is possible and if anything likely their headmate/tulpa/soulmate or whatever is in direct association TO the problem through 'birth'/creation. imagine you create a person in your head to help you with depression, well, when you deal with depression, what is that person's purpose then? to occupy your body, induce psychosis, live half your life if you try to do anything equitable, lead you away from reality and the problems it's going to pose at some point? knowing you used to have depression, your brain could relapse given conditions are bad enough, and if you invest too much time in fantasy, in things that you willed into existence, in things that were not before you had the will to form them, you're either going to use these things again (which would make whatever you have more of a 'servitor' whatever that even means) and go back into the cycle of detachment from reality, OR, you're going to start facing your problems all by yourself, get some therapy because thats what actually helps facing real life problems more than immersing yourself in fantasy

this doesn't just go for tulpamancy, that's also how MD can hurt you, that's how a voice in your head that will serve as a coping mechanism will hurt you, that's just one example as well...

now let's say someone actually does have a bad situation/bad past of abuse, gender dysphoria, identity crisis, depression, anxiety, the list goes on, and they start hearing an unfamiliar voice, they head on to /r/ tulpa only to be told that they are all fine and good, when something is birthed from misery, it doesn't MEAN it's bad but it means it's likely to be a direct consequence that, most likely, has a bad effect on them, as gold never comes from poop as the saying goes

let me remind you that this isn't an attack on tulpamancy because you could say that ANYTHING is a tulpa these days, because if you establish proper characteristics people get hurt and feel like what they have isn't so special
05-04-2017, 02:22 PM
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RE: Yes, I'm a tulpamancer, and no, I don't have a disorder!
Gotta love ranting, eh?

Well, I tried. You obvioulsy have a point, but we are starting to go around in circles, so I suggest this be the end of the argument.

Not many people read the textwalls anyway.

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05-04-2017, 02:33 PM
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RE: Yes, I'm a tulpamancer, and no, I don't have a disorder!
I read it (your five line sentence gives mine a run for my money) but I don't really know what to say. I really don't want to get dragged into a discussion like this but I guess I have a few comments: I've been fronting for over a month right now and everything's fine, Mistgod was always a fantasizer/daydreamer Melian didn't cause that, and for every example you named I can name like ten+ examples of people who benefited from having tulpas I guess? But I'm pretty sure there's a misunderstanding around there so I don't wanna argue or anything

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RE: Yes, I'm a tulpamancer, and no, I don't have a disorder!
Well, my "tulpa" has been trying to take me out of my daydreaming habits, actually. If I have this disorder, I can't say for sure, but he's right for doing this. I know that I have trouble with gettin out of the computer/cellphone/my head very often. This is mostly my reaction to my life circunstances than the real issue though and he knows how to fix this (that's what he says, anyway).
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RE: Yes, I'm a tulpamancer, and no, I don't have a disorder!
Well, I don't think MDD is even officially a disorder.

Anyhow, good to see he has some confidence. Worth pursuing.

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