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    OC tulpas:

    Nameless: in the spirit that names are arbitrary, also acknowledging the possibility that names affect personality http://theweek.com/articles/477557/how-names-influence-destinies I have decided to let this one name himself, when he wishes. In some cultures, choosing or changing a name is commonplace, and tulpas provide a unique chance to forgo them entirely. He is the youngest and least developed tulpa I have, and as such has not formed a concrete sense of self yet. Also the only intentionally made tulpa. All others started as soulbonds. He is a griffin of a black raven/white lion back half. [color=#000000] (black) He is partnered with Amberwing for now.

    This guy also has a contentious relationships with names, so he says you can call him Rain, but that's not his name. Like an online pseudonym. Here is his short story. He is . . . um, mostly human. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nC3GqOGFEOs8pkyUptidlSQSnbcw4peWzexAaWKHb_Q/edit?usp=sharing He is based somewhat on irl friends' struggles, somewhat on a few characters I like. [color#040880] (dark blue) He is partnered with Toriel.

    Tulip: A bubbly fairy with feathers and beetle wings. Yes, the name is a play on tulpa. Here she is in action: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N86rxvnBtD3CWAVAf7QdPTcZY411o5pMl_OVdiznJTU/edit?usp=sharing She has chosen to fuse with Gaster 8.

    She and Gaster 4 came to my awareness first: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-our-saga-begins-meeting-my-tulpas-part-1

    Amberwing, my oldest tulpa, a tempermental tiger-patterned griffin who can, with assistance, shapeshift into a human. No, I did not get that backwards. Potionsmaster. [color=#FF0000] (red) She has a story on FFN, but I don't know if I will finish it.

    Loosely Undertale-based tulpas:
    (their names will be changed and the writing adapted into an original novel eventually)

    Asgore: A gigantic furry white dragon with manticore and minotaur ancestry. Botanist and artist. Intro here: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-this-is-what-happens-when-reality-and-fantasy-collide-a-spectacular-explosion [color=#FF8844] (red-orange)

    Toriel: Slightly larger than human-sized bipedal lion/bull/dragon hybrid, also white. Biologist, nutritionist, and writer/poet. [color=#44FFFF] (light blue)

    Alphys: Dragon, smaller than Asgore, with orange scales. Programmer and entomology enthusiast. [color=#FCFC44](yellow)

    Gaster: Humanoid spider. Physicist, philosopher, dancer, also a poet. He and Toriel were the sources/vehicles of much of my poetry (link in my signature) but they say they are not Muses, it still came from me. Because of circumstances in the story, there are two of him, Number 8 and Number 4. More shy and more assertive, respectively. [color=#F0ACED] (lavender) [color=#D05BFF] (purple)

    Their collective story: http://menollysagittaria.deviantart.com/art/Prologue-Asgore-s-Wars-Within-Without-600933795

    Update, six months later: Asgore's new name is Gorthorn. Alphys' new name is Alexee. Toriel has become a dragon like Asgore (seems related to a meditation session I had), and chosen to get back together with him. Her name is still pending.

    Gaster 8 has kept his first name, Wing, but his spider language name is Issstedl.

    Number 4 has decided to leave us. The nameless griffin has faded away. I'm not 100% sure Rain is around, either.

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  1. I know I may be shouted down to go back to the metaphysical subforum, but do any of you experiencing positive effects believe your tulpa might be an angel? I guess that would make more sense for walk-ins or soulbonds than intentionally spun tulpas.
  2. In my brief stint in nursing training, I plucked up the gumption to mention the possibility that demons exist (i.e., SHOULD we treat patients who talk about demons as categorically, objectively wrong?) but for some reason bringing up the deliberate development of 'audiation' (which is the audio form of 'visualization') stuck in my throat.
  3. Ah, first it's fictives, (soulbonds/tulpas based on fictional characters) and then there's factives (soulbonds/tulpas based on factual people!). Perhaps your echoes of forumgoers are not yet sentient, nor do you want them to be, but I imagine if you stoked them, they'd certainly have the potential. Of course they could become their own person, even rename themselves. Much like a child can begin as a close imitation of their parent, then establish their own identity later. I'd imagine that as your focus waned and you got caught up, your 'bandwidth' was taken up, which is why your connection faltered. Oddly, I've had the opposite happen- when I am centered and better equipped to deal with reality, my tulpas will wink out and not return for some time. Since they came to me quite suddenly, I guess they can leave just as suddenly. But they're always there if I deliberately go searching for them.
  4. Browsing the soulbond forum, Living Library, you definitely get the impression that it's not either/or, that both happen. Kinda like a baby can be born through natural conception or IVF. They're still both babies. I definitely believe that's possible. I've had an experience that may or may not be related, if you'd like to PM me.
  5. I certainly hope so! I've been off and on increasing my dream lucidity. I believe that if your tulpas are around, they can probably assist you in staying conscious through your body falling asleep. It's all a matter of work and focus, still, though. There's no shortcut. (I mean yeah, some people are just born being aware of the ability. Lucky)
  6. Yeah, and he even *specifically* gave queer people a shoutout . . . look up what "born eunuchs" means in context. I seem to remember there was a person who specifically discussed observations of exorcisms vs. tulpas in this thread, which asked a less pointed question, but basically the same sentiment, you do: http://community.tulpa.info/thread-any-christian-tulpamancers-tulpas-here?page=6 Some stuff happened to me. Of course, I deal with demons in other respects, too, so I don't believe the tulpamancy specifically triggered it. I know ladies who have cleared people of negative entities that people were not even aware were attached to them. So there are all kinds of degrees in these things. Stuff does not have to be flying around your house and you do not have to be shrieking awake from nightmares, the otherworld is there all the time, interacting with this one, sometimes mildly. People often refer to what they call "Walk ins", i.e., tulpas that seem to just 'appear' that they then let hang around. I would strongly advise against doing that. Otherwise, you deal with demons the same way you would if they came up with no prompting . . . by shielding, asking angel protection, purifying your thoughts, praying, and possibly enlisting help from a priest. Pretty simple.
  7. One of my dragon tulpas would like to speak up on that point. First of all. What do you mean by "real"? If a dragon tulpa is not "real" in the general sense, then neither is any other tulpa, including human ones, so the definition pertaining to dragons specifically is useless and void. If you mean to say that dragons do not exist in the material world, but could, per this thread discussion, 'exist' in the mental world/perception/etc in that they feel, react, have their own thoughts, help, hinder, and potentially could physically harm people the way demons do in reports of exorcisms, then that is a distinction you need to clarify. Do your tulpas think of themselves as fundamentally formless, and therefore cannot 'be' dragons? Or just pretending? Or does it have something to do with what I said above? Because I, my wife, and my friend all consider ourselves dragon, fullstop. For the purposes of deconstructing the Ego, I suppose, I should say that most of us in here believe 'real' humans are also fundamentally formless in soul, so you also have to reckon with that. 'Ego' says I am a dragon. And for the purposes here, that is not a bad thing. Because Ego is allowed to say "I am this" "I am that." Only when it becomes rigid and begins governing perception instead of being a humble aspect of it does it become a problem. Anyway, a bit of a tangent. Back to the actual question. I do not myself believe that dragons were ever a biological creature that evolved. However. (and my host has not committed to believing this, but my wife and I most certainly do!) Dragons, through 'collective thoughtforms'- have existed throughout human history. They were sung into existence during what the Aborigines refer to as Tjukurrpa, or Dreamtime, and as belief in the supernatural diminished, (and therefore projection power decreased) they still persisted as shadowy guides to whomever sought them out, or menacers, depending on their creaton's deliberate intent and/or unconscious tone. My experiments with this: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-more-possible-independent-confirmation-of-my-tulpa
  8. It seems like this tool approaches something like a tulpa. What do you think your own tulpas could be telling you about yourself? I remember reading in a book about Uri Geller, an experience a man had when he created a persona for a puppet, and it seemed to be giving him deep insights that seemed to come from 'somewhere else.'
  9. The term "code switching" was traditionally coined to describe the mixing of two languages in a bilingual individual (the sort of meta version of this is a 'pidgin' language, though it arises due to initial contact between two groups of people rather than with familiarity or mastery of both languages). However, in the modern era, "code-switching" has come to mean a switching of accents to fit into different everyday contexts, especially black people switching from African-American Vernacular English when with friends to something more 'acceptable' in professional spaces. It can also apply to lesser switching, such as goes on between interacting with parents vs. interacting with a new group of people vs. interacting with well known people vs. any number of subcultures and norms. Now, it's interesting to note that in the study of linguistic cognition, when a person learns a different language (*learns, not is raised with*) there appears to form an appreciably different personality when conversing in that language. https://www.communicaid.com/business-language-courses/blog/bilingualism-personality-change-according-language-speak/ Language can deeply affect our perception of reality in some cases. https://www.translatemedia.com/us/blog-us/how-language-affects-perception/ I wrote a reflection quite a while ago that poses an implied question, what if a salve to the 'conflict' that is so bemoaned between code switching is to begin thinking of yourself as more flexible, that each part of you is equally valid, rather than thinking of yourself as a singular identity that is having to 'change.' https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-lSlAx19yfbrRJp1DQD4xIo4LNyjOvQYAfoKMl29f64/edit?usp=sharing Do any of you consider this facet of human cognition sort of at the shallow end of a pool with regard to multiple systems?
  10. Yeah, I mean for fusions it's very obvious, but Pearl is a single gem, so that's why it was such a surprise. I do like the detail of Fluorite speaking very slowly, because she has to integrate so many minds. It's a nice touch.
  11. There is a mention of factives in a book published in the 1930s in this thread: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-synchonicty-tulpas-and-books?pid=202401#pid202401
  12. Well I hope this post does not get relegated to the Metaphysics and Parapsychology subforum for mention of synchronicity . . . This is fascinating. I had heard that book title before, but had no idea it contained references to proto-tulpas. Well dang, now I kinda want to make 'factives.' "Very few people are going to look past the fan-fiction feel to see evidence that something grander is happening in my internal life." Yeah I feel ya. My original intention was to 'out' myself in my story . . . but I don't know if I'm courageous enough for that . . . and also unsure if it is my 'destiny', if you believe in that sort of thing, which you seem to.
  13. Yeeeeaaah I'm seeing a lot of invalidating going on in this thread and I'm not liking it either. Singlets will attempt to invalidate your experiences as a multiple system . . . I think the least you can do is not turn around and invalidate others', draw more lines in the sand. My tulpas, as fictives, did have a lot of thought put into them before they became sentient and started talking back to me. And as batshark said, I did not ask for this, and I was only lucky that I had at least heard the term tulpa before so that I was not as scared out of my mind as I could have been. They most certainly were "accidentals" if not walk-ins, and I suppose that is an important distinction to make in terms of communication, though I can't say that the distinction really matters personally, to me. I think people who are more inclined to be extremely creative can more "naturally" create tulpas, and do not have to do this extensive "rewiring" you're propounding on, Apollo. But ya know what, that's purely speculation, as I hope you realize your attempted gatekeeping is, too. So . . . I'm going to revisit this thread when it's not 4 AM and see if I can better address specific things.
  14. A doctor has diagnosed me with schizoaffective disorder in the past. That's why it was pretty terrifying to have involuntary fictive tulpas spring in on me, because I thought I was having another minor psychotic break. I don't take any medication, and I think that the first approach should not be medication unless in severe manifestations, and most of the time goals should be organized around weaning off of medication. http://sciencenordic.com/some-schizophrenia-patients-can-cope-without-medication https://www.newscientist.com/article/2074229-rethinking-schizophrenia-taming-demons-without-drugs/ Anyway, have you heard of Jade and Aury? They used to do videos on how tulpamancy can be used to assuage mental illness. They are listed in one of the replies to my thread here: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-aww-f-k-no
  15. So, if you've watched the two new Steven Universe episodes . . . it's probably just a stylistic choice to portray Pearl's layers of personality. But I find the idea of her being a multiple fascinating- my sister raised a theory that every time a gem (or, more specifically, a Pearl) regenerates, a new level of consciousness is created, that are autonomous from each other. Of course, it may be dissociation and multiple personality formation from trauma, as well. But that is still a Multiple System, just a differently generated one.
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