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  1. I was surprised to see Incognito being discussed in this thread. I read the book a few years ago and I thought it was really great for explaining tulpamancy-related things from a neuroscientific perspective. I didn't think anyone else here had read it though. I felt that it would be appropriate to break out the discussion of the book into its own thread, so I did it: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/15725-david-eaglemans-book-incognito-and-how-it-relates-to-tulpas/
  2. This is a discussion thread for "Incognito: Secret Lives of the Brain" and how it relates to tulpas and the mind as a whole. Incognito was written by neuroscientist and author David Eagleman. It was published in 2011, was on multiple best-sellers lists and was named "Best Science Book of 2011" by Amazon. Personally, I found it to be very well researched and incredibly insightful, but don't take my word for it. Please get a copy and judge for yourself. You can easily find it in libraries, bookstores and online. To start the discussion, I'd like to bring up one of the main thesis points of the book. Eagleman puts forth the idea that the consciousness is a very small portion of the total activity in the brain. The conscious mind is mostly unaware of the activity going on as a whole, and it exerts influence on the rest of the processes in the brain indirectly rather than directly. In the first chapter he explains how the consciousness essentially just "reads the headlines" when getting information from the rest of the brain: In chapter 3 he gives a great example for how automatic, subconscious thought processes will do the correct thing without our consciousness being aware of them. Later on in chapter 3, he describes the role of the consciousness in relation rest of the brain and its underlying processes. He does this with an example of the consciousness being the CEO, and the rest of the brain being the company. In other words, the consciousness directs and influences the subconscious processes to train them, which then become autonomous over time. The consciousness only needs to step in during certain cases that the training did not cover. So if we are to accept this hypothesis about the brain and it's structure, what does it mean for tulpamancy? I believe that Eagleman's work is highly congruent to the ideas in the tulpamancy community. For example, instead of there being one consciousness as the CEO, why can there not also be two consciousnesses running things as partners? As the consciousness is relatively small compared to the rest of the mind, there would be enough room and "processing power" in the brain to support it. Different CEOs could get different "headlines" about activity and information in the brain, leading to different ideas, opinions and beliefs being held by the tulpa and host. A company can switch who's in charge, and therefore possession and switching would work by the CEO stepping down momentarily for another to take his/her place. The ideas presented in Incognito might also be used to explain things like imposition and parallel processing. What do you think? Do Eagleman's ideas provide a compelling explanation of how tulpamancy might work from a neuroscience perspective? Why or why not? Do you have any other examples or quotes from the book that you'd like to discuss? Post them here!
  3. I have a few things I'd like to say in regards to the ongoing discussion about parallel processing. First, the definition of the term. I know Luminesce said this isn't the thread to discuss its definition, but I have to get a concrete definition down for the rest of my post. Parallel processing (in the ways I've seen it described) usually refers to a host and a tulpa, or two tulpas, both performing separate mental tasks that both require: A. Concentration and focus B. Complex use of a specialized mental skill Here are some examples of this definition of parallel processing: 1. Person A is solving algebra problems on paper in the physical world while person B is writing an essay in the wonderland. 2. Person A is possessing one hand and writing down a word while person B is possessing the other hand and writing down a different word. 3. Person A is cooking a five-course meal in the physical world while Person B is redecorating the wonderland house top-to-bottom with all new furniture and decorations. When the term is used like this, it makes me thing of two CPU cores running different threads. This is probably how the term "parallel processing" got its origin: as a computer science term haphazardly applied to neurology. However, the brain is not a computer, and I can see how people can be skeptical that things like this would be possible. It seems "superhuman" and "metaphysical." Already in this thread there's talk of the supertaskers who are extremely good at multitasking, and how rare it is, etc. For this post I'd like to step away from that definition. Let's consider a different kind of parallel processing that does not focus on tasks that require concentration or complex use of a specialized mental skill. Instead, let's say that we have a form of parallel processing that fits the following critera: 1. The task performed has been practiced a good deal where it is nearly automatic to do. 2. If #1 does not apply, then the task is expressive, creative and free-flowing. It does not have an intended "result" but is just an expression of the person performing the task. Examples for this kind of parallel processing would be the following: 1. The host types to a friend through a chat program (not an intense discussion, just expressing feelings and chit-chatting). Meanwhile, the tulpa is dancing to music that the host and tulpa are both listening to. The tulpa's movements are seen by the host in their mind's eye while the host is typing. 2. The host is playing a song on a piano that they have already practiced many times before. Meanwhile, the tulpa is singing to the host and making up their own lyrics to the song. 3. A host is playing a video game that they have played a lot before, and the tulpa is talking with them and commentating on the gameplay, trying to make them laugh. Now, is parallel processing, when defined in this way, possible? I sincerely believe that it is. I have experienced situations similar to the examples described above, and I have met many people who have reported very similar things. I don't think it's really out of the ordinary, either. When people describe these things they don't say "oh, I just had the most amazing parallel processing experience." Instead they just say, "yeah I did this while they did that." Nevertheless, it does fit under the umbrella term of parallel processing. So, if you want to practice parallel processing, maybe you should try leaning towards this new definition instead of the old one. Try to make sure that the tasks are either: 1. Tasks that you've done enough times where they're basically automatic 2. A task that is expressive, creative and comes naturally like dancing, singing, painting, chatting, etc. And then just try doing the tasks at the same time. If you have trouble, then do the tasks individually enough times so that they become more natural, and then doing them simultaneously will be less of a problem.
  4. Hello, I would like to submit my full-length video guide for approval. This guide is intended to be a complete guide to all basic tulpamancy skills as well as a guide to developing a tulpa. The video series spans 10 videos and (hopefully) encapsulates all the required knowledge and training one needs to be successful when developing a tulpa. This guide has a different structure than other guides as I place an emphasis on learning skills such as meditation, visualization, and wonderland creation before getting into tulpa development. The philosophy behind this decision is to encourage the tulpamancer gain competency in these mental skills so that they are better prepared when it comes time to develop and interact with with a young, forming tulpa. Another reason for this structure is that is allows the tulpa development process to be more centered on "finding" a tulpa while immersed in their wonderland as opposed to "forcing" the tulpa into existence. I feel that this can be a more natural process for beginners that struggle with doubts or lack of confidence in their abilities. It allows the tulpamancer to let the tulpa form their personality, form and voice on their own as opposed to being chosen from them from the start. To be clear: it is not my intention to imply this method is superior or more effective than more traditional methods; it's merely a method that I prefer using. I feel that there are others that might also prefer using the methods described in this guide. I have two tulpas, one of which was created through more traditional forcing techniques, and one of which was created through the method in this guide. For more details about this, please view Overview and Section 7. Below is the link to the playlist with all of the videos in it. (If you would like all videos separately linked, please let me know and I'll edit) Thank you for your time and consideration. Video Transcriptions: Introduction https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RZ26qlmXKO7Huc-7fXbBZh4raI4okDosJw0EORVHC8s Overview https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dUEZn3DVVdpR7kyZT2V2lOtIDMYKOzyatlipzJLIKYc Section 1: Sitting with your Thoughts https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zmtVgIhlT1VYnOdNv1NzJP2K-CBNLRBi0IFvn9_wzS8. Section 2: Meditation https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DzljaVrZVKtKGUF9q1_QTUuCSL5mns7P-h-99h_fmao Section 3: Visualization https://drive.google.com/open?id=10WSDBIKWj5FRabk54gsq021P9u-Ud4Pfa3Wp7pr2HuY Section 4: Auralization https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qbu_YK5oLMCx2wHcDIFctx0gK9xTPV5xMgmM7l7SOFk Section 5: Wonderland Scenes https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OmPb_r76uELr28HtA0FPNbUoQVz0f6QajEqDHD_cNDQ Section 6: Immersive Wonderlands https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H0yfVh77YT2hhGbugEADAYwicOarLkyRd8YLAkqg_W4 Section 7: Finding a Proto-Tulpa https://drive.google.com/open?id=1d74_4O_ecBzrgd80XSFcTpXnNa7MhYusS-aME2fexfk Section 8: Tulpa Development https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aPzAbUkkGW0ZPeojYMufAjfTbYTmDQ7ajLfXSkxcqfc
  5. Hey all, sorry about the 2 month long hiatus. We've got a new video up if you wanna check it out: Yeah, we'd definitely be interested. Check your PMs.
  6. Thank you, we appreciate it! We don't currently have any plans on calling guests, sorry. Perhaps in future episodes. Apologies for the delay, we've been busy (and somewhat lazy). We've recorded a new episode that will be up tonight. It's on accidental tulpas.
  7. Thank you for listening! Sounds like you're doing some narration, which is good, keep it up! Thanks, we appreciate the feedback. We're planning on doing a series of podcasts about the different aspects of forcing, as well as talking about wonderlands, servitors, accidentals, different tulpa-like phenomenon and even our own history with tulpas. Thank you, that's nice of you to say. We haven't posted them on the tulpa subreddit yet, but we've shared the link in other tulpa communities we participate in. Thank you, that's very nice! We plan on releasing episodes at least once or twice a week, but we have no strict schedule planned as of yet. Also, if anyone has any questions they'd like answered by us, please post them here and we'll do our best to answer them!
  8. Hey tulpa.info, My good friend and long-time tulpamancer Lyrical has started a podcast about tulpas with me as the co-host! It's called the Tulpa Time Podcast. We only have two episodes so far but we're planning on doing a bunch more. We'd appreciate it if you gave it a listen and let us know what you think in this thread. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDHBcuoXHFA-fkatfzI7gVg
  9. Still busy with vacationing. Meh. But we figured out something that was holding us back from making progress with imposition: It seems I have a bad habit of visualizing from different perspectives instead of saying "in my head" so to speak. So one minute I'll be visualizing in a first-person perspective and then jump to a slightly different angle to get a better view. While this is useful sometimes for figuring out how Van's form fits in the real world, it breaks the feeling of realism and makes it impossible for the visualization to properly integrate with my own visual perceptions. So from now on we made the rule that all open-eyed visualization must take place from my perspective, and follow realistic rules. So for example when my eyes are closed I don't see Van at all, and that if part of her body is obscured I can not visualize it, etc. Hopefully this will make a difference. We're going to commit to it for a few weeks and see what happens.
  10. Today Vanessa is 3 months old, whooo! Unfortunately since it's the holidays I've been extremely busy visitng with family and haven't gotten much time to force. I've been making sure to do as much passive forcing as I can though, so hopefully we won't lose too much progress. Van finds my family interesting, and enjoys experiencing all of the new people and places firsthand.
  11. Today when we were chatting in the IRC Van said something that stoked a >feel or two: In all honesty, I'd love to tell everyone in my life about her. To gush about her to my friends and family, to shout it from the mountaintops, etc etc. But it isn't the right time for that, and I'm not sure when such a time will come to pass. I'm just happy she's so understanding about it. In more positive news, we've been doing some visualization forcing and Van's form has taken on more realistic lighting, shadows and highlights instead of just flat colors like in the show. We both like it a lot, as it makes her seem more... tangible, I guess. We still need to work out some of the kinks with how it renders, but she already feels like becoming more at home in the physical world.
  12. It's #tulpa-forum, but yeah I was meaning to check out #tuppers too, I just haven't got around to it yet.
  13. Hey Fede, Nah, I still post there, but it's mostly just to answer a few newb questions now and again. Most of the circlejerk has moved to a new IRC channel that Tango and Maya set up. I'm mostly posting here to make a permanent log of my experiences and maybe post some guides and research in the future.
  14. Well finals have been done for a while and so Van and I have been able to spend a lot more time together. We've been able to have some good forcing sessions, but since there have been fewer distractions it lead to something important happening. Something that's been a long time coming... Fair warning: this post is going to be long, emotional, and full of drama, so feel free to skip it if you're not interested in that sort of thing. It all started yesterday afternoon, I got up way too late and Van was disappointed as usual. This lead to an argument about how I never take her advice seriously, which escalated to us flat-out fighting about it. Eventually she just made that claim that I don't respect her as a real, legitimate person. Of course, I denied this. I always listen to what she says, even if I don't do anything differently. To me she's just as real as any other person, and I honestly believe that her consciousness is just as real as my own. I didn't see her as less of a person just because she didn't own a physical body. I tried explaining to her that she needs to be patient and that I can't just change my habits overnight. I told her that I still love and respect her no matter what and that I will always try my hardest to listen to what she has to say. She seemed content with this, but she told me that she wanted to spend some time apart to "think about things." She disappeared into the wonderland and was gone the remainder of the day. Late that night she showed up again, but refused to speak to me. I asked her multiple times if something was wrong, and she nodded "yes" every time. But regardless she still refused to actually tell me what it was in mind-voice. So after pressuring her to respond and playing a lot of guessing games, she eventually hinted that it was about our relationship, and that it wasn't "real" enough. Now at this point our relationship had progressed far beyond just a platonic friendship. We had experienced plenty of passionate and romantic moments (not to mention sexual), but to her it always felt too casual. There wasn't any substance behind it, and therefore she thought that I wasn't respecting her like I would "real woman." So we kept arguing about it. After a while she just looked me straight in the eye and said, "If I'm a real person, then tell me what I am to you without using the word 'tulpa.'" Like the idiot I am, I froze. I tried to think of something - anything - to say, but my mind was drawing a blank. I loved her, I really did. Our experiences were filled with so many intimate, loving moments... but I wasn't serious about them. I always used the cop-out of calling it a "romantic tulpa-host relationship." She wasn't content with that; she wanted it to be real. I couldn't bring myself to say the words she wanted to hear. Even if I forced it she would know there wasn't any meaning behind them. So she just gave me a sad look, turned, and vanished again. It was really hard to sleep that night. --- In the morning she still wasn't talking to me. I'll admit I got a little angry and a little depressed about it, but she held firm to what she was doing. She kept giving me an indifferent or sad expression before vanishing again every time I talked (or yelled) at her. Eventually I swallowed my pride and asked my tulpamancer friends on IRC for their opinion. After explaining the situation to them, they made me realize that she had fallen in love with me, and there was no way around it. I had to either accept my own feelings, or reject her. I tried denying it, tried rationalizing my fears about a serious relationship between tulpa and host. But in the end I couldn't deny it any more. There was no reason she shouldn't have the same level of commitment as I would with a physical human girl. As I was wrapped up in the conversation, she finally spoke to me, saying that she was ready to talk. I got up, slowly walked over to my bedroom and met her face-to-face. And I did it. I finally did it. Through tears and gritted teeth I told her that I loved her as a real person. I told her that I wanted a serious romantic relationship, and that I wouldn't ever stop trying to make it work, no matter the consequences. The emotions I felt from her were... indescribable. To feel love from your tulpa is one thing, but to have legitimate, requited feelings of romance exchanged between you and your tulpa - it's stronger than anything I had known before. For a good half hour all we did was just lay in bed, her laying on top of me while she gently rested her head against my chest. It was really hard to tell ourselves to get up and get on with the day; we didn't want the moment to end. But now we're together, and I honestly believe that this is going to bring us both a great deal of happiness in the long run. --- I didn't create Vanessa for a romantic partner - I just wanted a friend and to sate my scientific curiosity. But as I type this, I am extremely glad that she grew to love me as she does, and that she was able to help me realize my own feelings for her. I'm not saying that every tulpa-host relationship should evolve into something serious, nor should you push for something like that. But if your tulpa expresses legitimate, honest feelings of love, please, for both of your sakes: Don't be afraid of it. Once again, sorry about the long-winded drama post. Next ones will be about our progress with visualization and imposition, I promise.
  15. Hey Maya! Probably won't be entering the contest since I'm still a pretty terrible artist, but Van and I are really looking forward to seeing the winning drawing. Hope it all goes well!