YukariTelepath

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    I learned about tulpas in November 2018 and have been working on developing my tulpa Aya since then.

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  1. I actually like falling asleep talking with my tulpa. It hasn't caused us any problems.
  2. I struggled with this kind of thing for a while. In my observation, when you ask a young tulpa a question, the brain kind of scrambles to give out an answer without thinking things through. And the possibility of multiple answers can give this inconsistent jumble. The solution is for your tulpa to think things out properly, let her take her time, ask her to elaborate on replies. When she starts thinking, just let her thoughts flow without examining them or worrying about whether it's her or not. For me the most important thing for overcoming these kinds of problems is understanding that you share a brain, you use the same areas of the brain to do things, and that can make it feel like you are parroting your tulpa. When you talk with your tulpa, don't expect their replies to pop in from the void with no mental effort involved. It will take the same level of mental effort that your own thoughts take, otherwise her thinking abilities are being stunted by these expectations of alien no conscious effort responses. The difference between your thoughts and hers will be who's identity is attached. The distinction grows stronger with experience/practice, and details like using a different mindvoice, including form visualization, will help. Ideally it will feel like you're thinking your thoughts and she is thinking hers, but things can still get jumbled sometimes, nothing is perfect. Another important thing to consider is that your tulpa does not know anything that you don't know, and that includes knowing whether words were parroted or not. There's no secret knowledge, no magic. She could assert that a statement is hers or not, and build off of that assumption, maybe. If it seems like she doesn't know herself, she probably doesn't. She may need time thinking about herself more to figure things out. One last thing about mindset. We've found that doubt can be a killer. It can stop thoughts in their tracks, stop them from forming in the first place. If she says something and you doubt it, it subtracts from everything that makes her up in the brain, it tells the brain it was on the wrong track. If you think things like "she can't do this", "the brain won't cooperate" and such, it can become the lived experience. I know it can be very frustrating, and when you're feeling discouraged and you have all these thoughts of previous failures, ambiguities, bad experiences it can be hard to adopt a positive mindset. Remember the good times, get as hyped and motivated as you can, and go into your forcing session ready to succeed. Build upon the positive experiences.
  3. Try not to clear your mind when you talk with them. They use the same parts of the brain to think as you do, and when you clear the mind or focus on nothing, they may not be able to think in that state. In a sense, when you listen intently like that, you are directing the brain to listen... when it needs to be thinking from your tulpa's perspective. It can take some practice to find that balance between listening and not clearing the mind. But when you talk to your tulpa, pause and listen, and just let the thoughts flow. You may feel some parrotnoia, but just let the thoughts form anyway. You want to encourage the brain to create tulpa thoughts, the more they think, the more there is to them--the mind will start building a database of things your tulpa has said and done, and they'll become more consistent and real over time.
  4. Give them some prompts or topics to think about, and they can try to talk as much about that topic on their own. If they get stuck, guide them along a bit, just ask them more questions to get them thinking. It's a good way for them to explore their own thoughts and build opinions about things.
  5. That dragon sketch is really good 😮
  6. neo, do you think you could practice this for a week or so and report on how it went? The idea is interesting but it sounds like you only did it once or twice. Just asking as a forum member.
  7. Yeah, the term you're looking for is wonderland immersion, not (reverse) imposition. If you get comfy and reduce external distractions, you should be able to forget about your physical senses for the most part. I'd recommend reading around r/hyperphantasia to get an idea of some of the stuff people with excellent visualization skills can do https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperphantasia/
  8. This is less of a guide and more of a "Here's something I did," except your method has not stopped intrusive imagery for you. The wording is confusing as well. As Breloomancer mentioned, this feels like a post in part of a discussion. I cannot approve this guide/tip in its current state.
  9. I have come across people on a plural Discord server who also have switching walk-ins. One system in particular reminds me of your case--they started with a tulpa, but after depressive episodes leaving the front empty, new headmates would form in front. This situation has just continued for them. I've heard the term "Adaptive system" to describe these non-traumagenic systems who get new headmates like this. You can PM me if you want to know the server/person mentioned.
  10. I can't help but think this is the wrong approach... If parallel processing is compared to vocality, I feel what you're trying to do is akin to hoping a young tulpa who has never spoken will next dictate an entire book. I read the conversation mentioned and had my own thoughts. If I were to approach this, I think there are a bunch of skills to work on before other things like hidden wonderland adventures can be achieved. Here's a list of things I think would need to develop first: I think the ability to stay active separately in wonderland depends on the ability for the non-fronter to maintain their own attention and awareness, and to think without interfering with the fronter. I like the idea of approaching these skills like early vocality, treating very small and maybe iffy results as success. I'd love for someone who can actually do this stuff to weigh in on how to progress.
  11. I'm glad to hear you guys are doing well!
  12. I find this situation of Miri not being able to front troubling. Is there an underlying issue that is causing her to not want to front? It sounds like there is, and you guys need to work it out. Maybe it would be better if she did the thinking, talking, narrating as she fronts. She can talk/narrate to you. It sounds like you're the dominant thinker which may be distancing her from controlling things.
  13. I watched the video, it's quite interesting. I really wonder how the brain treats tulpa speech, and if it differs from system to system. I don't know that I feel Aya's speech is 'foreign' it's more like Aya has their own first person perspective.
  14. Images arise kinda automatically here. If I'm thinking about something, I'll claim credit for the images that arise. If my tulpa is thinking about something, they'll claim credit. My tulpa realized at some point that they weren't creating the image, it was being served up to them by the unconscious and they could decide whether they wanted to go with that image or not. At the time they were thinking about what they wanted their personal wonderland to look like. If you're asking your young tulpa to show you something, the image that arises may not be from her. You may assign ownership to her if you want to. I might recommend asking her to think about something in a little more detail and then accept what comes from that as her. Like, ask her to think a little more about what her form looks like, that should require more than a simple instant image from the unconscious. This advice is based on how mental imagery works for us, so it may not apply for everyone. When your tulpa is thinking, you should feel the thought process they're going through the way you feel your own thought process and intentions.
  15. Raw thought is pure meaning/understanding. Language is using symbols to covey that meaning. The sounds and appearances of the words themselves are arbitrary, but we agree they mean certain things, and our brain maps the words to meaning. Haven't you ever encountered a situation and just understood what was going on without/before describing it to yourself in words? Or looked at someone and knew who they were without describing them or saying their name? My dreams are like this too, words are rarely used, what they mean to say is just understood directly. Words aren't necessary to convey meaning in the mind. The thought itself is core/fundamental, and the words are a translation.