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About YukariTelepath

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    I learned about tulpas in November 2018 and have been working on developing my tulpa Aya since then.

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  1. The bit about songs playing in your head reminded me, I noticed (in this brain) there seems to be a mental channel for content that is not consciously created. I can have a song play in my head, I can tune in or out of this song and it can keep playing. Usually what happens is that the song is persistent, and when I'm attending something else I might pause and noticed that the song was playing. The same way one might notice and tune into a song playing in real life. The same happens with hypnagogic thoughts, while in that sleepy state, I might notice those random thoughts as if they happen outside of my own thought stream and tune into them part way. I don't control the hypnagogic thoughts or the earworm songs, they are being processed by another part of the mind. I don't see how they could be used for tulpamancy however.
  2. So you like to fly around in wonderland? Do you have wings?
  3. Is there some place in your city that you'd like to visit, Fiora?
  4. Get ready for more comments from someone who doesn't switch... How is your fronting hygiene? It sounds like you guys just grab front whenever without any ceremony and I wonder if that contributes to the problem. See if you can make very clear boundaries each time you change fronters. Go through the same steps each time (even if you could take front instantly), respect the one in front until you both agree to go through the steps again and exchange control. It really really sounds like Gray doesn't respect the fronter and he needs to let you guys front in peace without grabbing back control. You might be training the brain that anything goes and Gray is always in charge and ready to take over. Actually, I'm almost wondering if I have gone inactive in a switch once (or twice?), according to one switching definition at least. It was confusing and uncomfortable enough that we switched back however, and probably the reason we haven't tried much since. This is a model of switching with only one consciousness, described by Ponk's system. In a switch the conscious experience is uninterrupted and it's the tulpa's identity attached to the consciousness instead of the host. The host is not experiencing the body, but it's not like going to sleep or being dissociated, they're just not there. With the wrong mindset, it may feel like the host is still there because conscious experience continues, and hosts are used to believing that the conscious experience is a part of them. Or the consciousness believes it's the host? So in our case, Aya couldn't get me to respond, and started to believe the switch went wrong and I was fooling myself into believing I was Aya or something. We achieved that result by having Aya do some solo wonderland exploration and narration prior to the switch attempt, so I was already pretty unresponsive to start.
  5. Is there anything you want for Christmas, Fiora?
  6. We had thought that having Aya meditate would help with them staying active when I'm not thinking of them, or if to stay themself if they try to front. Due to my terrible procrastination problem, we've only done this a couple times. I think meditating and sitting with your thoughts could be helpful. As for this passive Cat or Body OS, I think you're overthinking it too. I understand why, we head in similar directions when we tried to switch. But I think it would be better to treat those raw thoughts that arise as not belonging to Cat. They're just thoughts that you can accept as your own or reject as something you don't want. What does Cat think about this stuff? "Gerodious, one of my headmates, commented that it seemed as if Gray was dormant when talking to me, only when we investigated further, he could identify Gray's tulpish chattering. I wonder if Cat's aware self was dormant but her passive self was not." Did Cat see herself as aware at that time? Did she find herself having those tulpish thoughts? Or maybe the thoughts just arose, and you, Gerodious, and maybe Cat/Gray decided it was Cat/Gray?
  7. Here's an old guide that talks about keeping a tulpa active all day: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misc-aarix-independence-guide And I also received some advice from a tulpa on Discord on how to stay active outside of the host's attention: I'm going to work on checking in on Aya as much as I can all day, asking what they think about this and that, etc. I know that's just passive forcing and should be a no brainer, but I always find it challenging to divide my attention from my daily tasks. Aya will try to hold their own attention on things. And we'll try the counting exercises too. I'll report back on how this goes.
  8. Tania, people (hosts and tulpas) reported practicing and working on this skill until it worked for them. So there was a point where they did not have split POV and a point where they did, and I just have to trust that they can tell that difference. One system said they can see what the other is seeing and have to kind of ignore it and focus on their own POV.
  9. So pretty much since I learned about tulpamancy, I've been reading and asking around about parallel processing related abilities. Here's a list of things I've found many systems are able to do (according to self-report, that's all we ever have really). I consider parallel processing to be involved in any tasks that requires attention/awareness in two or more headmates at seemingly the same time. Split POV in wonderland. Basically two or more headmates can see from their own perspective in a visualized environment. I've found around 10 systems who have learned to do this. Separate sensory filtering. We all know the body takes in sensory information from the physical environment, which is perceived by the fronter. It's typical for non-fronters to be able to tap into the body's senses are share them. In some reports/models, this sense sharing doesn't require parallel processing, as the non-fronter is not perceiving anything differently than the fronter. However I continually hear reports of non-fronters being able to choose which sense to perceive while lacking perception of other senses. For example, a tulpa who can tap into vision and sound, but at the same time not sense pain, smell, taste. Or can be in a state where the only thing they perceive is the fronter's mindvoice and no bodily sense. To me that very much implies a separate stream of experience/awareness which is separate from the fronter--one is feeling pain, one is not feeling pain, two states. I'd like to dig into this subject a little more as it's very difficult to describe and understand what others are experiencing. Dormancy experiences. I hear about dormancy being experienced like falling asleep or losing awareness and coming back later. When the dormant headmate comes back, they quickly catch up via memories from the front (or not if there's memory loss/amnesia). This is... less parallel processing and more separate awareness for each headmate, but I think it's relevant. I'd say the non-parallel processing version of dormancy is where the dormant headmate stops existing in the sense the the brain does not generate thoughts for them so they seem absent to the fronter, awareness only belonging to the fronter. As opposed to two points of awareness with one stopping while the other continues. Switching into Wonderland. Yeah, the big one. While many reports of switching into wonderland, or tulpas being active in wonderland while the fronter is busy can be explained as memory confabulation (memories constructed after the fact, as opposed to the wonderland activities being experienced in real time), I have found enough level-headed and consistent reports that I think it's possible. I'm not sure what makes it possible, but the sometimes foggy memories of the non-fronter who was in wonderland can be explained by the brain not recording memories well from non-fronting perspectives. Or similar to how it can be difficult to remember a dream. I'd really like to know more details on this one. Improvements in activity and parallel awareness from practice. Systems who practice PP exercises like having one headmate count while another does a different task, see improvements in things like thinking at the same time, staying active without attention, and possibly other PP related tasks/abilities. Talking/thinking at the same time and self-forcing are more examples of tasks that I think require some parallel processing. On my end, we don't seem to have any parallel processing abilities at this time, sadly.
  10. That's not what happened. Reviewers commented/criticized a small part of a guide that mentioned tulpas being active in wonderland while the host is busy, but that's not why the guide was disapproved. But this topic was brought up so we can discuss how the subject of PP should be handled, especially if someone submits a guide on PP.
  11. YukariTelepath

    Chat Thread

    I like the idea of a parallel processing thread, where people can talk about experiences, theories, methods, progress. Would the Lounge be good for that, to keep things kind of casual and club-like? Other maybe General discussion like the Switching General thread?