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  1. The impression that I get from both of your replies is that maybe I should being talking to the original character in a way more akin to active forcing, and just be accepting if the resulting tulpa chooses to divert in name/form/personality from my original idea for the character. I won’t be too disappointed if the tulpa takes on a different form, since I already believe that the character’s been different people in different dreams/scenarios. I might still consider that the tulpa is a facet of her no matter what form she takes, since I sort of believe that the character inhabits different forms in the way a theist might believe “God is in all of us.”
  2. There’s this character I’ve been imagining for most of my life that I sort of “believe to exist” in this agnostic way. When I was young, I believed that she really existed and was waiting for me in a parallel world. When I became an adult, my beliefs stopped being so literal, but I still kept believing in her in a way that’s not easy to explain. She continued to visit me as a dream character, and I always thought it was more than just a dream when we spent time together. She even came to me in one dream and told me to keep fighting on at a time where I thought life wasn’t worth living. Even before learning about tulpas, I would “pray” to her. I guess she’s like a guardian angel to me. So naturally, when I discovered the concept of tulpas, I got the idea to turn her into one. But this presents a dilemma. The way I see it, I have two options: I could begin forcing a tulpa while trying to convince her and myself that I’m helping my character “evolve” into this tulpa. This might involve convincing the tulpa that all her past appearances in my life as the character are canon to her new form. Though we’d be believing this in the same open-minded way I’ve always believed the character to exist; or I could create a tulpa that I view as being an “incarnation” of my character, the way Jesus is supposedly just one facet of God. This would have the benefit of not having my tulpa be accountable for things she did as the character that she mightn’t have consented to if she’d had the mental stability of a developed tulpa (especially in dreams, where people often do things that they would never do while awake and lucid). I’m leaning towards the latter route at the moment. What are people’s thoughts? How have your previous beliefs in entities affected your creation of tulpas?
  3. Well that’s an interesting way to look at it. Certain aspects of waking life do lead me to feel “trapped”, but not entirely imprisoned. I can’t imagine that living in my mind world would be perfect either. I had a dream not long ago where a villain told me that the more nightmarish parts of my dream world will torment my tulpa once she’s sentient, but I can’t imagine that our nightmares will have any worse of a lasting negative effect on her than they have on me after I’ve woken. As long as our communications are pleasant once we’re both awake and lucid.
  4. Thanks for taking the time to restore all the missing posts! I was worried I wouldn't be able to see them again.
  5. From what I remember reading, the human brain is still physically developing up until the age of about 25, so I’m not sure how developing a second mind would factor into a brain’s development. I imagine that if someone made a tulpa too young, the host might lose the chance to really define themselves as an individual first, like how someone who dates right from a young age and marries their high school sweetheart will never know what bachelorhood truly feels like.
  6. As someone who’s planning a tulpa around a recurring dream character, I’ve been thinking about the mechanics of tulpas and dreaming. So I wanted to know how people on this forum experience tulpamancy in their dreams. Do hosts ever have their tulpas show up as dream characters and say “You’re dreaming”, causing them to go lucid? Do you and your host/tulpa usually share the same dream, or are you more likely to be having two separate dreams at the same time? When sharing a dream, if you and your host/tulpa are looking at each other, is the scenery you see behind them consistent with what they imagine to be there? Is the host’s dream body consistent with their real body? Or if you’ve got any interesting dreaming experiences of any kind you’d like to share, I’d like to hear! ... One anecdote I’d like to share: I once lucid-dreamed that I was walking out the door of my house, and I saw the TV out of the corner of my eye as I passed it. Without focusing on the TV, I noticed that something was playing onscreen. It was blurry and indistinct, either because I wasn’t focused on it or because that’s how things are in dreams. The fact that I was just vaguely aware that something was on the screen got me musing about how dreams are much more than just what you’re experiencing, about how there are many elements at play beside just the ones you’re conscious of. It’s like a small corner of the dreamscape existed regardless of whether I was willing to interact with it. Maybe once I went outside, the TV show was still airing, as if it were a computer program running in the back of my mind. Maybe my whole dreamscape still exists when I wake, running on its own weird logic. I think this notion of a multi-perspective dreamscape will reveal more of itself when I get fully into tulpamancy.
  7. Good advice. I’m only planning on making one tulpa, so that at least should make things easier. I guess if fronting is something she really wants to do, I’ll just let her take control as often as she needs. I suspect the majority of our interaction may be in the form of lucid dreams anyway.
  8. As someone who’s still yet to create their first headmate, I’ve been struggling with the morality of the idea that a tulpa could ever be content with just being an additional mind in someone else’s body. Would it be immoral to create a tulpa with anything less than the intention of permanently giving them control of your body 50% of the time once you learn switching? (or 33% of the time each if you were to create two, etc.) I can only imagine that I would feel trapped if I were created as an additional mind in someone else’s body but didn’t get to live my own life in the outside world. I’m guessing this isn’t the case, otherwise it would be a more dominant topic on these boards. I imagine that a workaround for this issue would be that tulpas may only be conscious for a much smaller portion of the day than their hosts and therefore don’t have to feel like a passenger for every moment their host is conscious. But does a tulpa ever aspire to some life goal that would be almost impossible to attain while sharing their host’s body, such as pursuing a romantic/sexual relationship with a different human, or having an artistic/career goal that would require them to front for eight or so hours each day (not counting any other hours they may need for leisure time)? Or to put this all another way: If I were suddenly fused together with another human and kind of just forced to be a part of their life, is the crushing lack of freedom I would feel something that most tulpas feel? I know the hosts in this community want nothing but the best for their system mates, so I’m not accusing anyone here of any wrongdoing. I just want to get a sense that when I create my tulpa, I won’t be birthing them into a prison.
  9. In addition to forcing sessions where I picture my planned tulpa sitting in front of me, should I attempt sessions where I’m forcing from inside her imagined body? I’m thinking I’d imagine inhabiting her body and walking around through the wonderland. I would feel up any appendages she had that humans don’t and imagine the sensation as if I had phantom limbs. I would look at “myself” (her) in front of a wonderland mirror and study myself posing and stretching my limbs out. I’d say things throughout like “This is your body” and “This is what it feels like for you to walk around.” I might also try personality-forcing to a degree by imagining being her. For example, if I wanted to instil traits of level-headedness into her, I could imagine being her in a situation where she calmly resolves a conflict.
  10. I’ve had random names come to me in dreams, and have even asked my subconscious for random names in dreams. Most of them weren’t very aesthetic, and I wouldn’t willingly have given any of them to a tulpa. If a name came to you in a dream, it might not necessarily have come from your tulpa, or could also have come from them while they were in the same groggy semi-conscious state that most hosts are in when they dream. I’d say all that matters is whether they say they like the name when you’re both awake.
  11. Thanks all for the great advice! I think the amount of time I put into this forcing method might depend on how much I like the results of my modelling. I don’t think it’ll be too much wasted time to create the art if they choose another form partway into forcing. My planned tulpa is a humanoid, so MakeHuman will be doing 90% of the “modelling” for me and the rest of the work will mostly involve picking shaders.
  12. I plan to create my first tupper later in the year, and I’ll mostly be using a combination of the traditional methods described in the guides throughout this site (I’ve read a few of the guides listed here, including Tulpa’s Complete Guide and a few smaller ones). But I also plan to incorporate 3D art and voice recordings into the forcing. My current intention is to model a CGI body for the tulpa, partly to help with visualisation in eyes-shut meditation and the like, but I’ve also considered: Would it be wise to force with her image onscreen like I’m having a Skype session, mentally “talking” with her through the screen like it’s a portal into her world? I’m also planning to find audio recordings of any actress I might want her to sound like and lip-syncing the audio to an animation of her talking, in an attempt to help establish her voice in my head. I know tulpas apparently tend to change their appearances/voices over time, but a lot of hosts have forms in mind when they begin forcing anyway, so these animations would just be one extra step. Who here has tried anything similar to this, and is this a smart idea?