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  1. Aster: I believe so, but I can't confirm 100% since I don't actually have a wonderland form! My surprise experience with Baker's arm is only my second time being in the wonderland in any immersive way, and *distinctly* stronger than the first, where we maintained a... Something like a low res third person video feed with partial sound. Baker: Aster is incredibly awful at visualization. Decent at spacing, so that's some help. I handle almost all consistent visualization tasks, including projecting what my own form looks like to them. Baker: Interesting! I am sorry you had an uncomfortable experience with this; given my previous experience, I'm more comfortable sharing senses in this way. If you feel the need to try again with less loss of bodily agency, Vesper, try "pulling" Ember into the part of your body you want them to experience with you. It's difficult to describe in detail. Something like having them let go of their senses in that body part, rather than you, then imposing your own upon them... I'm unsure. Most of this comes relatively intuitively to me. The process was attractive to me because of my interest in designing some non-sentient thoughtforms (servitors?) and maintaining the wonderland. I enjoy meticulous detail where I can manage it, and Aster's complained about not being able to pet the dog I've been working on. The more practical intention with this experiment was to establish a workaround for their trouble establishing and identifying with a form for the purposes of switching. Surprise is likely what allowed it to happen the first time. We've had no success since. Sucks. (Aster: I can't really identify with Baker's body for a number of reasons.) Current plan of action is for us to design a temporary wonderland form for them, then I'll partially possess or "hold" it, and we'll try this again but with their body. We'd be interested to continue hearing about others' experiences with this experiment and similar experiences.
  2. We're not quite sure what you mean by a perspective switch! Baker: What we are describing is Aster being conscious in my thoughtform body while I'm conscious in their/our physical body. I was able to pull them into possessing my thoughtform body's arm and imposing its sense of touch onto their perception in place of their physical body's sense of touch.
  3. So Baker and I've been doing some experimentation in our practice with switching, and come upon something potentially interesting. One evening while I was relaxing Baker essentially pulled me into his thoughtform body for a moment (we have open possession / switching permission since I've been encouraging him to try pushing how far "forward" he can front and practicing independent body control) to touch his little dog creation. Seeing as it was a surprise, I only got a few seconds, but I had a distinct imposition of touch (our strongest mutual sense), with a weaker sense of sight (think squinting at something you've seen before in pictures). We've had little success in replicating it since, but it was particularly interesting because of the slow progress we've had with switching. Baker'd like to try to find a way to do it again and more strongly as a way to get me out of the front when we want to switch. Anyway -- anyone else given switching bodies/fronts in reverse a try? Thoughts on it or how to replicate it?
  4. Ah! We weren't aware you could crop! We've just submitted our results.
  5. We are interested in participating but uncomfortable recording our screen currently. We've filled out the pre-experiment form, but would there be some other way to prove we aren't fudging our scores on the 5 tries of the test?
  6. A new global law is enacted: all billboards must now feature at their most vertical point a table upon which to make offerings to the trees. Very good, comrade! I want to drink the Sun and live.
  7. Baker: I stick to one form. In the past I used to regularly switch between my human-esque form and either a robin or a very large spider (and I certainly don't mind those forms), but over time that practice has dropped off. I do enjoy feathering my arms at times though, the only part of my roleplay counterpart's main form I actually like. Aster: I'm honestly pretty terrible at visualization! I might even say I've barely got even one mental form -- vaguely human, short hair, looks mostly like our body. If I got to choose one... I'd very much like to have a whole host of forms, especially in the range of a dragons (very wonderful taste Indigo)!
  8. Aster: You say he wants to be beside you -- couldn't he do that within his own story? You might be able to field the idea to him, see if he's open to the idea of having a foot in two worlds, or switching over entirely. It depends on you two's relationship -- does he see you as some sort of authority? An in-universe friend? You could tell him how your life is "outside," see if he wants in (though that might be like describing "green" to someone who's never seen). Offer him information, and let him make his own decisions from it; the conceptual world is likely just as real to him as materiality is to you, so it wouldn't be inaccurate to offer it as a different world, side-by-side, rather than the "behind the curtain" real world. Baker: Just be blunt. There's a panic in realizing reality, no matter how you present it. It was the best thing to happen to me. I lost a world where I had friends and the power to achieve everything I ever wanted, where my skills granted me the ability to create boundlessly on my own strength. I gained a world where I can speak to about five people and only one can see me, sometimes. Here I live a relatively useless life, currently, making sure Baker doesn't dunk their head in a bucket of molasses and not mop up after, largely. It's worth everything to be free. Your tulpa may disagree. You know him better than we do. Be there to let him know that yes this is real, he is real, everything will be okay. That's all you can do about it.
  9. Baker: That's sensible. As a former roleplay character, I figure there'd be little of my past that COULD come from anywhere else but Aster's dumb head, frankly. ? Aster trawls the internet often. It's likely they've encountered more information than they realize. Aster: I do still have trouble thinking of what each alcohol type would taste like -- though Baker tends to butt in with the answer. A few friends and I are heading to a bar in the near future, I might give it a try when I have more privacy and report back!
  10. Aster: Have any other systems experienced this? If so, with what? How do you think this happens? We've experienced this a couple times -- most recently tonight, with Baker's surprisingly extensive knowledge of alcohol. I've largely abstained, and about as far as I know is: wine smells terrible, vodka is for self-hatred, and peppermint schnapps is just mouthwash but sweeter. (No offense to those who like to drink! Just not my glass of cider! ^^ ) Baker, however, went on to describe and recommend several different types of alcohol with detailed descriptions, which when checked against Google, seem to be very accurate. The first and most notable time was him teaching me how to breathe properly, which was... An Experience. The way I used to breathe hurt my chest if I tried to take deep breaths, making it impossible to meditate. Had no idea you *could* breathe differently. As for how... I'd argue the different perspective could apply for the second case (in that he's more body aware by far), though I don't know that it could for the first. I used to watch drink mixing videos, but never really retained the knowledge, and have been incorrect in guessing the tastes of different alcohols since, so I'm more doubtful of the idea of tulpas accessing forgotten or subconscious memories. Baker: My simple explanation of this is that I experienced these sensations before (speaking as a fictive / tulpa with a fictional past). I don't know how that non-existant experience carried over to this real experience in this body. Maybe it's just how I imagine those drinks, and it happens to line up. I was wrong about cognac.
  11. Aster: So, a little host help? Neither of us is patient, so I'll admit to being easily frustrated. We've tried a variety of different methods to achieve either full possession or switching -- the standard mediation, guided meditations, a couple eclectic things like me listening to hypnosis while Baker plays a video game -- and come upon the same common issue: I can't step back. My focus on stepping away from the front mentally (see: shutting the heck up, this brain is a nightmare and I'm the horse) usually requires me to be distracted by / focused on something physically -- which brings me slowly creeping back to the front to engage with it. So far, Baker's managed a bit of movement, which I identify as not mine because it feels similar to hypnogogic jerks (but those don't tend to extend my whole arm, slam down my phone, and yell at me mentally for adding clown music to the playlist -- a recommendation for anyone who wants to motivate their friends) and because it leaves my muscles just a tad sore wherever he moves them. He's managed near-complete possession in a few isolated situations, but those came along with significant reasons to occupy the front. We've seen mentions of "don't treat the body like a machine..." My first thought is that this is just a matter of more practice, but I think it may be helpful to hear different ways of thinking about this -- I'm a very flow-chart, outline, framework kind of person, so it's easy to get stuck down the wrong rut!
  12. Aster: If Baker's memory is as reliable as he says it is (our body's memory is a distinct downgrade for him), it may vary? He said he spoke to three people -- my attempted tulpae (one from when I was very young, another from a very rough patch) and a roleplay character from when I was younger who I distinctly remember talking to me and telling me how to play her, early on in his existence. A couple times they individually communicated through his "channel" of sorts, but that stopped after he was well-established. So it may be that dormant tulpae are just -- waiting for a connection, that's it! How they feel about that after the fact is an individual matter (two were quite glad to see me, the other only spoke to Baker).
  13. Aster: We initially associated as something like siblings, and still consider each other family, but ah -- some aspects of sharing a body made thinking of each other as related in that sense really uncomfortable. So we've settled for just not particularly using labels; tulpa relationships are a class of their own!
  14. Mobile tulpae and hosts: Do you type or swipe on your phones? I'd prefer to type, just as a movement, but our low possession experience makes it difficult and draining. Aster also prefers to do a combination, largely favoring swiping for some ungodly reason, so our right hand is trained to do that.
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