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  1. glitchthe3rd: A child survives the death of both parents and if I die my best friend doesn't automatically go with me by my behavior. Neither of these is true for tulpae. Maybe I worry too much, though. It's funny that I'm so resigned to fate that if I kill myself through some stupid darwin award winning stuff I'm more okay with my own death than his. GlassElevator: Well I'm 25 but who's counting, lol. And I've already thought of the whole "life as a tulpa or nothing" point. It seems getting about halfway done and then shrinking away from it would be the absolute worst.
  2. There is no carved-in-stone method. From what I've seen, people who do want a form from the beginning go something like: Form --> Personality --> Narration/voice/etc. Having the form in mind gives your attention a definite target, which helped me.
  3. This is something that's been bugging me since before I started work with my own tulpa. Consider this: A human lifespan is only so long. And most people wait until at least 20 or over before learning about tulpae and starting creation. So a tulpa's lifespan is only that of the host minus what the host has already lived. That's probably a good deal less with most people, even in good health. One of the things that kept me from going on with my tulpa was this. It seemed unfair to create a sentient being with a pre-cut thread of life, so to speak. Could I get some opinions on this from creators and tulpae? Does/did this occur to you or bother you? How do you cope with feeling almost guilty about things like not working out as much as one should or eating junk food that isn't good for the one heart you both have? How do you tulpae feel about it?
  4. This is essentially what happened to me. I was writing stories centered around one character named Raven, and after a long time I had personality nailed so that I could basically know exactly what he'd do in any given situation. Then I got to a point where I would stray and make him out of character and I almost felt a mental 'tug', a feeling like he was saying "No. No way.". He just stopped cooperating as a character then, and progressed from writing his own story to Tulpa-hood that way. The one problem I've ever run into with this process is just that the transition is too slow and smooth to know at what point the 'steps' of creation happened.
  5. Thank you, all of you. I didn't mean to just start a thread and then let it go but I ended up visiting some family for few days. Reading these replies helps me get over my mental hurdle. To Envolucris: The reason I wouldn't want a character to turn into a Tulpa after I already had one do just that(I love him, don't get me wrong) is that I don't want several Tulpae. I just don't think I'd be able to give them all the attention they need and frankly it might get 'crowded' in my mind. I could just see the cycle: Write a story, character becomes Tulpa, stop writing story because it's become puppetting, start new story with new character, repeat. Besides, I like horror and I have characters that range from normal to murderous psychopaths.
  6. This might seem like a weird problem to have, but hear me out. My Tulpa, the only one I have and, I believe, the only one I want, was born from a character that I was writing about. He became so fleshed out that he just kind of came to life on his own. I still like writing. But I don't need every main character from my writing to become a Tulpa and gain any sentience. How can I have really developed characters that are still absolutely going to stay 'just characters'? I guess I'm a little paranoid; after it happened on its own once, I'm worried it could happen enough to get to the point where I can't write much anymore beyond very one-dimensional plots and people. P.S Yes, I know that there is a lot of work that needs to be done even with well-made characters for them to become Tulpae. What I'm trying to do is just nip it in the bud, so to speak.
  7. Tulpas in the west date back farther than internet forums. The original story(or at I believe it's the original) would be the story of Alexandra David-Neel, a woman who studied with monks in the east and learned the art of Tulpa-making. The story goes that even other people could see her Tulpa and could mistake it for another human. But he got out of her control; his features changed, and he became troublesome and willful, so he was destroyed. The part about other people seeing the Tulpa is almost certainly an exaggeration; or the way we make Tulpas today is a watered down version of how it was done then. I can't fathom how that's possible. Also, the changing of the Tulpa and her destroying him sounds like she had a bad reaction to deviation.
  8. I'm a 24-year-old female(somewhat genderqueer) with a male Tulpa. Female Tulpamancers are indeed rare, I wish there were more of us here.
  9. Over the last ten days I've forced a little less than I would like. But I've figured out something. I have a harder time forcing when I'm out doing stuff. It's not the multitasking in and of itself. It's that I seldom go out alone for extended periods of time and whatever friend/relative I'm with usually keeps me in a conversation about [insert random topic here], keeping my focus with them. And it's only going to get worse with the holidays approaching. That being said: I've gotten more vocal responses in my downtime. I was reading an article online with Raven imposed. He was lying on the bed with his head on the pillow. I noticed I'd left my non-Apple MP3 player on the pillow and he was 'lying' on it. I somehow felt like even though he and player couldn't affect each other, he didn't like lying on it for some reason. Like by the placebo effect it was bugging him. I started to say something to him and before I could get started he clearly said "...this godforsaken iPod." The first part was cut off, but it was so clear it halted what I was going to say. It was like he was talking and it wasn't until I turned my attention to him fully that I heard him. I had the distinct feeling that I couldn't have butted in and stopped him talking until he was done with the sentence. Another time, I was calmly observing him and was mentally staring a little at him. I was kind of hoping he might say something out of the blue, which he doesn't tend to do. After a short time he looked at me and said, more faintly than some other responses, "Are you just waiting for me to say something?" He was staring back very intently but without anger. The emotional message that came with it suggested that he didn't really like me just putting it all on him to start speaking suddenly. These are the two strongest messages I've gotten. There are plenty of others but I can't see how writing down each one is beneficial.
  10. "I just spent several forcing sessions communicating with her as though she was sitting in the same room as me, but out of my line of sight." That's exactly what I've been doing, I personally recommend it. But about your Tulpa's form, just leave it to her. She shouldn't be locked into that form and if you disregard her form altogether I'm sure she'll find something you're both comfortable with. She'll probably tweak her form anyway no matter what you do; mine certainly likes changing his clothing/hair/eye color from to time even though the body itself is constant.
  11. My tulpa, Raven, was originally a character from a story. I needed a name that said that this was a very dark character with a black heart. It's also a reference to his black hair. Luckily he's dropped the 'dark character' and 'black heart' parts.
  12. I've been following CyberD's roleplaying method and it's worked well. Open-eyed visualizing and imposition is becoming much easier. His movements are more his own, and I think I've successfully kicked the habit of making him move. Which was something that still nagged at me even when I had thought it was gone. He's settled, I think, on his Square-Enix realism. Again, think Advent Children. This is fine, I've got no problem with it. But one thing worth noting is this. I've got my first vocal response. He's starting to speak. I was sitting at my computer getting some stuff done and practicing imposing him in the room. He stood, wandered, sat on the bed, etc. Very normal for him when I'm not interacting with him. He was just standing around looking out the window when a thought occurred to me about something that I wanted to bounce off another person to get their take. I knew Raven hadn't said a word yet and communicated with the occasional gesture, nod, or emotion, but I thought "what the heck". "Hey, Raven?" I called. He turned to me. "Yeah?" It was a little weak sounding, but it startled me and I froze. He froze. I stared at the spot where I had imposed him, at his face. It was him, not me. I really believe that. But something about me being startled and locking onto him like that when he spoke made him shut up immediately and completely. I've even gotten less in the way his usual communications after that. I've heard that sometimes Tulpae speak a little and have periods of quietness. I guess this is normal? One note: After that event, I was trying visualizing him in my Wonderland. He was beside me and made only one gesture: To reach for my hand. I think communication might re-open soon.
  13. There's no set place for them to be, and they don't just pop up suddenly with no warning one day. When I impose mine I don't pick a spot for him, and he usually hangs around off to my side in my peripheral vision. But imposition is a process that takes time.
  14. Put me down as an inadvertent tulpamancer. Before I'd ever heard the word Tulpa, a character from a story I was writing just sort of jumped off the page. Well written and thought out characters seem to have a tendency to become Tulpae.
  15. To quote your link, I think Tulpae are an "autonomous consciousness " just as humans are and that we ourselves are "mental constructs" of sorts. There is currently no means of quantifying the mind or saying even what it is or where it is in the brain, and currently there's nothing stating beyond doubt that the brain can house only one mind. There more I read about people who are multiples and the divide between personalities to the point of being unaware of each other, the more I'm convinced that this can indeed happen. Of course a Tulpa starts out as a figment of the host's mind, but it branches off into its own being afterward. To me, the only difference between my tulpa and myself is that my body physical and his body is mental. I guess in a way I'm just saying that if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. My tulpa seems like a regular guy save for the obvious mental locale, so to me he's just a guy.