Lacquer

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  1. This was one of the first issues I ran into when I came back here last month, so I went looking and compiled a list of potentially helpful links (that I still need to go through and read): [hidden] https://community.tulpa.info/thread-can-you-enter-your-wonderland?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-change-of-tactics?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-how-real-can-it-be?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-wonderland-how-to-interact?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-just-a-couple-questions?highlight=%223rd+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-misinterpretation-of-%e2%80%9cassuming-sentience-from-start%e2%80%9d-philosophy?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-visualization-perspective-of-the-wonderland?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-forcing-point-of-view-problems?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-questions-about-the-creation-phase?pid=125&highlight=%22third+person%22#pid125 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-wonderland-random-perspective?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-focus-concentration-removing-doubts-and-general-meditation-technique?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-wonderland-stable-environment?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-the-guide-of-pleeb?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-third-person?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-visualization-tulpa-sent-me-a-wonderland?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-visualization-visualisation-happening-as-third-person-view?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-visualization-visualization-vs-dreaming?highlight=%22third+person%22 https://community.tulpa.info/thread-wonderland-pov?highlight=%223rd+person%22[/hidden] My plan was to read through these and practice a bit before making a question (and posting these links along with the question to say I did my homework), but I never got past that first step due to procrastination. Thanks, I'll add these to my list of reading material.
  2. You're never really supposed to be "finished", and if you feel like you've done all you can for that type of forcing, you were probably forcing wrong. Making a tulpa boils down to talking to with the idea of another person in your head until that idea talks back. If you considered the "personality step" of forcing (although I don't like the word "step" for this because it implies they are discrete, which they shouldn't be) to be something like just listing off traits and maybe fleshing out what those traits are, I'd say you were a little off base.
  3. I was in a similar position a month ago when I came back here after being gone since 2013, and the closest thing to change that I saw that happened while I was gone was more acceptance for "unintentional" tulpas, such as those created when writing stories and creating characters for that. For people like you and me who don't have tulpas yet but know what tulpas are, there really isn't much of a difference. There are more guides for whatever weird situation you might be in, but the overall "how is tulppa formed" stuff is the same. Read a bunch of guides and piece together a method that works for you.
  4. I guess this isn't happening then. I'm out.
  5. Lacquer

    KM & RD

    Dash is right. Fat is healthy. It's sugar and carbs that people need to avoid.
  6. Yup, you don't have to try or put effort into making something real real. It naturally happens on its own, so there's no need to worry about it one way or another.
  7. A character in a book is given flaws to make them more "real" in the sense they are relatable to the reader. A person has flaws that arise naturally simply by the very nature of what a human consciousness is. Two very different concepts. A tulpa having flaws shouldn't be something to be concerned about or something to be considered as part of the creation process. Hell, what those "flaws" are are just other parts of what makes a person a person. Don't worry about it.
  8. Well that certainly was something. I can't say that I can emphasize, but I can sympathize. Helpful or not, I encourage you to look up some of the principles behind bonsai and bonsai aesthetics, namely the wabi-sabi part of how there is beauty in imperfection. While Reisen may no longer be that immutable paragon of unconditional love she was to you, having a voice and being a human consciousness brings with it a certain je ne sais quoi that makes it all better. It all works out in the end.
  9. Before anything else, I wanted to say that I wouldn't put much faith in reddit anecdotes. They're weird over there. Anyway, about the main point of your post, look up previous discussions on this forum about intentionally giving your tulpa flaws. The general consensus is that the personality traits (good, neutral, or negative) you give your tulpa will "round out" so to speak into a cohesive human personality, which includes flaws, but mostly in the sense of stubborn = strong-willed. In a more general sense, from the theme I'm getting from your various questions here, I feel the need to tell you to calm down. This is an imprecise process, different for everyone, and all you need to know is to keep at it and it should all turn out fine. Once you end up with a tulpa you talk with every day like any other person, you'll look back at your worry-warting now and think how silly it all was.
  10. Well, they do say that people over the phone can hear if you're smiling or not in your voice, so what you're saying does make sense.
  11. No trailer. Just jump right into it.
  12. As a counterpoint to the general music thread. I recently watched Primer for the second time (definitely a movie you should watch multiple times), and it's still my number one favorite movie. Highly recommended.
  13. I've been listening to this album almost on loop for the past few days. It's good.
  14. Think about it like this: When listening to a piece of music, your experience of it isn't just the sound waves being produced by the speaker. There's so much hidden meaning and context that goes into experiencing that music. Maybe you're nostalgic about it because you remember hearing it when you got your first ice cream cone. Maybe it's a genre you hate, but a funny video you like had this song in it, so you enjoy the song nonetheless. Maybe it was the last song you heard before you broke up with your ex, so you now hate the song. Maybe this was your dad's favorite song that you always listened to together, and now he's gone, so sometimes you like to listen to it, and sometimes it's too painful to listen to it. Basically what I'm getting at is that human experience, whether listening to music or being fearful of spiders, has a lifetime's worth of context and previous experience that goes into how one feels about it at a certain time. I know that I'm afraid of dogs and hate dogs because I was sort of attacked as a kid, and the way my parents handled it in a way encouraged my fear of dogs by coddling me. Even knowing that now doesn't instantly remove that fear response from me. Just saying "I'm afraid of and hate dogs" doesn't give you all this context, but you don't need this context to accept that your friend may have this fear.
  15. Jungian just means relating to Carl Jung's stuff. Try using wikipedia as a starting point.
  16. No, I get it. It's an introvert vs extrovert thing. Or how there's the valence spectrum and the arousal spectrum for emotions. Low arousal might mean negative valence for some, but it could be positive for others.
  17. Yeah, most brain-control systems right now have a set way they work that the user has to train themself to use, whereas something allowing a tulpa to have a robot body, so to speak, would need to have the system be trained on how the body's brain looks when the tulpa is doing its thing.
  18. This post might be interesting for you to consider as part of the discussion you're making, if a bit silly.
  19. I take offense to that. I like boring. Boring is good. People have so much prejudice against boring that boring people like me get discriminated against. End boring people abuse!
  20. Okay, yes, the host's physical body is also the tulpa's physical body. But the discussion is not about that, even if the phrasing makes it a bit fuzzy on what it is about. It's about having an identity attached to some shape. For the human host, that is the physical body that the host has inhabited and grown with for over a decade. While there are some exceptions (notably Goopi/Chupi) the "form" (form as in the same type of form a tulpa has) most hosts assume in the wonderland is basically the same as the physical body in the real world. There's a bit of doublethink going on here that allows for seemingly contradictory aspects of tulpamancy to exist at the same time. When I say that tulpas are not humans and that they are human consciousnesses, I truly do mean both statements, and that's okay. I think people get too caught up on semantics, and wording (I know sure as shit I do), but we need to learn to allow for some leeway with regards to how we communicate what we mean to others here. Something I feel that I should add to this is that it's okay to make a tulpa for selfish reasons, even if the host hides behind justifications, as long as the host recognizes the respect and responsibility that goes into having a tulpa. I've said multiple times that my prime reason for making a tulpa is the self-discovery/advanced memory recall aspects. I'm shit at recalling events that have happened to me, and I have no answer to "so tell me about yourself." I'd be lying to myself if I didn't say that I also like the added perks of companionship and all that, but all this is okay. It's like how one should ensure that everyone gets a fair share when making a contract. So yeah, selfishness is okay when it doesn't get in the way of treating a tulpa like a real person.
  21. Well, part of making a tulpa is the idea of "trusting your subconscious" in the sense that deviation is "what you really wanted all along", so to speak. Not to say that the tulpa already existed before you started making it, but rather the subconscious influence you have on your tulpa will turn it into something someone that better works for you and your mind and your brain. Even moreso if you are connecting your tulpa to the Jungian concepts of the anima/animus, shadow, etc. (although this does get complicated with multiple tulpas, but that's a discussion for anothet time). I could incoherently ramble on more, but when it comes down to it, all you need to do is trust yourself and your tulpa, because things will all work out in the end.
  22. I'm going to have to decline. I evaluated my current situation, offline and online, and it seems that it would be best for me to not have the specific added commitment of voting on submissions. I'll still weigh in my opinion on submissions when I feel I have something to contribute, but only in a non-official capacity. I probably should have just declined the nomination in the first place, but oh well.
  23. You don't need to worry about being unable to instill traits you yourself don't possess into your tulpa, because your perception of what that trait is will go into your tulpa, not some sort of experience with having that trait. Your tulpa will act like you think someone with that trait will act. Think of the idea of the "P-Zombie". Internal mechanisms don't matter as much as how they present outwardly. Besides, as a tulpa is a human consciousness, those internal mental mechanisms will manifest on their own. Math is a learned skill, not a personality trait. Being shown the mathematical symbols without having learned what they are will not help you understand them better, but the human brain is wired up to give people personalities naturally as they grow older. Don't worry about "treading on [your] tulpa's individuality" by giving it a starting point for its personality. That's just a base for your tulpa to build off of and deviate from into its own consciousness. What you're doing is less saying "this is what you are" and more convincing yourself that there is another consciousness in your head that looks like this. Past that point, things will develop naturally.
  24. It's kind of funny that the at-large psychology community has in the past focused too much on anomalies like mental illnesses/disorders, which necessitated the (relatively) recent "positive psychology" movement, studying the hows and whats behind happiness and normal functioning of the human mind, while our little tulpa community here has had the positive psychology analogue from the start and needs to consider the opposing side.