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  1. I think it's idiotic that anyone who is actually trying to create a separate being in there head would test that being in exchange for trust. Either trust or don't, or--best option--trust with skepticism. I can't even imagine the mindset where someone would be taking the tulpa thing seriously and also only believe in the tulpa if it passes some arbitrary tests. Glad the vid is helping some people, but the better solution in my opinion would be to work towards sparking better mindsets in newbies.
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    Is this how the cool kids boost their post count, or do these not apply?
  3. When history has reached its end, to quote some Bultmann.
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    Poetic stuff

    Just a thing I wrote awhile ago. my grandfather wears his wife on his jeans. her cockeyed stitches, loose and thick gold against the patchwork mess he wears on his legs, keep him warm while the morning draft claws at his ankles in the early spring. i wear long-johns i bought from Target and they sag and catch on the weeds i can't keep out. my grandfather's grass is green and splays out up into the low sky like fresh wake on the beach, less like blades, more like the springy green sea a near-blind child has always known. my grandfather always asks me to hold the rope by which he drops his seeds, sure to grow up stronger than any i plant at home. i think he goes back once i leave so he can fix my unhandy work because damn those rows are straight. my grandfather gives his basket of tomatoes and cucumbers and carrots brown with the thick soil of a good yard to his wife who puts them in a stew that only he and she will eat, but i can't cook the broken, sickly, yellow, wilted tulips back behind my house.
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    What's up, dweebs?
  6. I've been looking into Daoism more and more, but I wouldn't say it's my religion. I bring it up because it's the closest analog I've personally got, though. Misaki, my first tulpa, is fairly Christian. The rest of us are pretty agnostic to atheistic.
  7. You left out this from my original response: I know of no host that has tried to force the tulpa to prove its existence in the way you described. Conditional relationships are definitely not the norm when it comes to hosts that doubt. Generally, the host is upset that he or she can't fully believe in his or her tulpa. I'm criticizing the video for focusing on an issue that doesn't exist, or if it does exist, is rare enough that in four years of interacting with the community I've never encountered it. Yes, I agree that your message is overall a decent one, but this is a misguided way to share that message. Creating a false problem and responding to it does not actually solve the real issues of the community. Stating that a conditional relationship is bad does not in any way move towards solving or helping others deal with the everpresent issue of "I am upset because I can't stop doubting my tulpa."
  8. My issue with this video is that you cast a host doubting his or her tulpa in a negative light. Strange that you are quick to pull out the Cogito in an attempt to help affirm a tulpa's existence to itself, but you say that having doubt is a sign of a "bad relationship," even though the Cogito arises from and holds its primary significance within the context of absolute doubt. Knowing that "I" exist for certain--which is in and of itself debatable (the Cogito presupposes an "I")--doesn't help "me" know for certain that anyone else exist. My tulpas can't know that I exist, and I can't know that my tulpas exist, so bringing up the Cogito brings in this issue. "You exist, tulpa. Rejoice!" is a nice thought, though, I guess. Being skeptical of one's tulpa does not make the relationship a bad relationship. I know of no host that has tried to force the tulpa to prove its existence in the way you described. Conditional relationships are definitely not the norm when it comes to hosts that doubt. Generally, the host is upset that he or she can't fully believe in his or her tulpa. One can argue--and I do, often--that tulpas are self-delusion, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't treat them with respect and love, etc. Being skeptical is not a cruel thing, my dude, and it's definitely better than the alternative of blind faith and full-hearted belief without ever analyzing the situation.
  9. A tulpa is only a tulpa if you consciously decide that it is, in my opinion. A tulpa is a consciousness (constructed as it is not there from birth) that is supported and controlled by the unconscious, just as our own consciousnesses are, and yet because of their constructed nature (by way of attention) are subject to the host's will. It makes sense for us to treat tulpas as fully sentient and separate consciousnesses because it feeds the belief that they are and allows us to interact with them in a way that feels genuinely as if we are talking to something separate, but in cases like yours, were there is doubt and mild panic, it is important to remember that there is no truly separate and unconquerable thoughtform in your mind. These characters are not tulpas until you decide they are, you cannot accidentally create one. This is kind of thrown out the window if you believe that tulpas have souls or are truly separate consciousnesses, but I don't, so I can't answer from that point of view. I hope this helps.
  10. Basically this is going to come down to your own beliefs and preconceptions to tulpas. As with anything else on this forum, your mileage may very, but I'm going to be answering from the perspective of someone that believes tulpas are separate consciousnesses you construct and continue to control by way of your unconscious mind. Possession is the art of tricking yourself into believing a second consciousness controls the part of the target body part, similar to tricking yourself into truly believing in the second consciousness itself. If the idea of a tulpa taking many months to make progress on this sort of thing makes more reasonable sense to you, then likely it will take a decent bit of time for the tulpa to reach competency with possession. If the opposite is true, and you believe tulpas can do anything if you just believe hard enough, you're going to see progress way faster. This understanding, of course, carries the risk of cheapening your experience with tulpas, so I'd caution against trying to change from one viewpoint to the other, so to speak. If it makes more sense that it would take more time, try not to overpower that idea with feelgoodfeels and misplaced faith. If you're capable of blind faith because tulpas make sense to you through that lens, then attempting to go full-on cynical skeptic will hinder more than help.
  11. So what you're going to want to do is already highlighted in the last sentence of your post: "Start out simple and work your way back into skill." Start out visualizing a solid color expanse, visualize your tulpa within this expanse, and go from there. As you get better at visualizing your tulpa, add in whatever the fuck you want w/r/t wonderland baubles. Give it a few months, and, boom, detailed wonderland and detailed tulpa.
  12. So, like I've been saying, Beatles, if we repeal the Permanent Reapportionment Act of 1929, we can reinstate a House of Representatives that grows again with the populations of the states, thereby making the Electoral College representative of the country's population. W/r/t merging two thoughtforms, and through the lens of these being thoughtforms and nothing metaphysical or spiritual or what have you, you should use symbolism similar to what Vos suggested. This is a time-tested dealio that works for loads of different shit w/r/t tulpas and such. Come up with a method that utilizes symbolism you're comfortable with, do the thing, and work with your newly merged thoughtform.
  13. While tulpas can provide support, there is always the lingering regret that comes with subjecting someone to my own mental illness. I'm speaking personally because it's all I really have w/r/t the topic. It also might just be the antinatalist in me speaking, but bringing something into the world is already questionable, and living with someone who has serious and potentially life-consuming issues is a fairly shitty thing to do. I created my first tulpa in an attempt to give myself a reason not to kill myself, and I ended up attempting a few months after, and then multiple times a year or so later. She supported me more than anyone in my life, but when you're discussing something that can fuck you up hardcore, support is not always enough. If a person can convince themselves that being dead is better than being alive, then they can convince themselves that the person supporting them is doing so out of pity or out of selfish reasons purely to preserve their own life, w/r/t tulpas. Better not to subject a person to that sort of self-analysis. Basically, if someone is depressed, a tulpa is not a guarantee to help, and creating one introduces a very real possibility of liability to the system.
  14. Rather than trying to come up with a philosophically-textured post or a controversial topic to talk about, I wanted to ask if any of you have noticed a difference in tulpas that are exposed to external socialization early on in development (for me, early on is any period before a a few months after first steady vocalization). In my experience, it seems like there's almost a sort of developmental ceiling for tulpas that come around IRC or more recently Discord while still relatively young. They seem to be very focused on constructing senses of self through rp and a list of characteristics. I don't want to go full "look at my tulpas character sheet!!1! isn't it great that I rolled a perfect 18 on charisma? her tilde-usage and vowel-extension checks will be through the rooof!!!" but I have noticed that tulpas not socialized early seem to be much more focused on the life of the body in the physical world; they work shifts at their host's job, write or create music or other creative outlets, go out and do things they want to do rather than tagging along expressly with what the host decides to do. In short, they seem a little more independent, but maybe it's confirmation bias. Anybody have any thoughts or experiences or something else of the like?