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  1. Well recently I started creating Nana, my first tulpa but I've been having some trouble on concentrating, so apart from meditating(that helped me) I made a method for describing the way I wanted the personality I initially wanted and forcing it. DISCLAIMER This method is aimed towards people who prefer images, visual media or symbolitzation(aka imagination) over plain text. So here's the result: DESCRIPTION OF THE METHOD The actual method is composed of two variations, if you want the easy one, less complex one you might want to choose the first one and if you want the more complete one you might want to choose the second one. The first one, the one on the left, is the most easy and rapid one but it doesn't compare to the complexity and explaining of the second one, this one is best used for users who want the brain to fill in the gaps and take less time. Here you'll only be explaining the trait, the motivations and how both impact the personality, if you want to expand to the origin the sinergies between traits and reactions to situations and emotions you can go to the second variation( the second one is more lengthy) . The second variation is composed of the first and the shapes in which you'll be explaining the origins, the reactions of situations and emotions(apart from what you explain in the first one). HOW TO AND EXPLANATION So when you've read until this part, you'll be asking yourself "WHAT'S THE METHOD AND HOW TO DO IT?!" well first off calm down. When you've chosen which of the two variations (or made a new one by yourself) then its time to explain the method and how to do it. NOTE:I used the shape of a triangle because in my head it made sense as to peeling layers and layers of traits and a personality, but you can perfectly make it a another shape. Here I'll be explaining the first variation and the center of the second.If you didn't notice by now the first variation is composed of a triangle inscribed in a box divided by several horizontal lines and one large big vertical line. Let's start with the core personality in the lower center of the triangle you can see a small triangle .That is the basic requirement of the personality you are describing and it's where you put the trait or role that explains the main aspect of your tulpa, the one that is the most important one. The vertical line that goes through center of the triangle is the essence, the role that you want your tulpa to be and which can be seen even from the first impressions. The essence in itself is like what makes yourself the person you are, if for example the core of your personality is active you could have the essence be nervous, for example someone who likes to go on trips and climb mountains could be a very restless person who need to move all the time. The essence is very subjective to the desires of every person. The horizontal lines are the levels of understandal or knowledge of the person . For example between line from up to down 3 to 6 would be ordinary friends, 7 to 8 might be intimate friend and 9 to 10 might be couple, best friend or life companion, meaning which more deep you go into the relationship the more you will know the traits of the person, its motivations,its essence and core. Seems this part is not very understandable: The horizontal lines are the levels that a relationship can take, for example a life companion relationship would be the 1rst line starting from the bottom. It essentially represents the understandal of the person . These are marked in black and are perfectly horizontal in the example. Each horizontal line represents a level deeper into the personality. This is just for reference. If you don't want to, you don't have to make this step, just remember that the more you approach the bottom means that you are going deeper into the person. The layers, which are NOT made, need to be put in correlation of the depth of the triangle (deeper means that its a trait which cannot be seen in first impresions and one needs to explore more of the person to know that trait) and importance(the size of it depending on its role or impact on the person). The method is named after the way the traits need to be put, by layers, as an onion for example in a introverted person you might first see: 1rst level(1rst impresions)= shy, bookworm, strange/5th level(friends)= gentle, caring, justice holder, friendly.... The lines marking the separation between layers are marked in red in the example. To separate the layers just draw lines starting from the vertical line and design as you want. The motivations, which are NOT listed, can be put at the sides of the triangle as any shape you want, I haven't put any because as the traits, that would restrict the choice of the creator putting them too superficial or too big. I recomend putting them in correlation to the size and importance , depth and deep motivations example: Eating candies would be very little sized and superficial meanwhile paying the debt of its family would be very deep and big sized. 2. Now comes the second variation or the external part, here we will be covering the origins of the traits or motivations you want to explain, the sinergies between traits, how does the tulpa react to emotions and situations. Let's start. First of all you should number each trait and motivation because you'll have to link it to the shapes outside the triangle inscribed box without arrows. First of all are the origin squares which are the most proper with discontinuated lines are the ones in which you can explain why does the trait exist. Faqman explains it better in his guide. Then there are the sinergies of the traits where you can explain how a trait affects another one. The diamonds. The emotions where you should explain how does the tulpa react to certain emotions caused by situations. This one pretty much suplements the situations. The panels. The circles are the situation. How does your tulpa react to certain situations? Now that I've explained the variations here comes the how to. To describe the personality you can either, write it in the corresponding category, number the trait to categorize it and make a recording with its number , or just narrate it and memorize it. Obviously you can change the method as you like, this is just a chart to better explain the personality. When you've ended describing the personality you can either simbolize it by making the shapes in your imagination and building like a city or something by the style or simply narrate it. [align=center]The photos are just examples, you can take them as charts or just make one yourself by drawing it in a sheet of paper, make it in a computer software or just imagine it. [/align] This guide is just so you can understand the method and then do it for youself. GUESS THAT'S ALL Thanks to all the repliers. [align=center] Here's a quick and random example I made about the core personality:[/align] http://imgur.com/a/ZUzLl Note that personality is fluid so if you want to keep the scheme up to date you'll have to do a lot of work. PS:English is not my native language so please pardon me for any grammatical errors. Thanks for reading. 1ST EDIT:Simplifed optimized and made overall changes. 2ND EDIT:Made some optimitzation and changes, thanks to sand.
  2. So I was evicted from my apartment because my managers can't do anything to save their life - a story rather beside the point. I've failed to force with Skye as much as I did the previous weeks (I'm too tired to check my math correctly, but I think between the end of September and so far this week I've only spent 30% of the time on average forcing with her than I did previous weeks) due to stress about my eviction and moving into a friend's place. I finally got most of, if not all my stuff moved in and it's been a hell of a stressful time for me. I've flipped the f'ck out before getting everything moved and my head feels like Silent Hill's fogginess but on steroids. It's crazy. The question is that can Tulpae have a reaction to severe stressors that their Hosts are under? Keep in mind Skye isn't quite vocal yet but we're excellent at having conversations together, albeit she's still thinking in my mindvoice. She can calm me down like no other and we even took a random train ride going absolutely nowhere the other night since I couldn't sleep for the life of me. I just don't want Skye to freak out because my brain is damn near giving me an "All Systems Failing" warning again. In the past couple of weeks she's talked me down from rather serious things I'd considered and even in our narration/letter writing/proxying she's managed to stay above it all and help me. I wonder if it's in her personality I've built for her to be able to withstand all that. She's even been kind of enough to tell me it's all right that I haven't forced with her as much because she knows I need my health in order to keep my own life going and by extension, hers. Anyone have similar experiences or thoughts on this? I'm more concerned about Skye than I am about myself, honestly, though my stress is slowly going away a bit at a time. - Ricin the Pirate Wolf
  3. Sometimes she says she loves me, other times (on rare occasions) she says she hates me
  4. Something very silly was once written here.
  5. I encourage you to read this post before answering, if you haven't already at this point. I phrased this question as directed at hosts because of the thread title length limit, but obviously I consider tulpas' input valuable as well. I'd like to open a psychological, physiological, and sociological discussion about this, since I haven't seen the topic addressed directly before. I'm curious about how typical my and Lotus' emotional relationship is. I'm bipolar, so in comparison to most people, my emotional state is considerably more neurochemistry-dependent, unpredictable, and internally driven. My mental state can change abruptly and with no or minimal apparent (external) causes (and recently, it's begun cycling worriyngly quickly, causing a lot of turbulence between us). So, I'm curious what this is like for more emotionally level and neurotypical brains. Maybe this could give us a bit more data about which parts of the brain are "shared" and which parts are "separated" or "duplicated" (not that it's nearly that simple). I'll go a bit more in detail about the options: 1) If there's a positive correlation, that means, for example, your tulpa is more likely to share in your joy and commiserate with you when you're down. I Am Not A Neurochemist, but here's an educated guess at an etiological explanation: Let's drastically oversimplify and say that that emotion X is caused by neurotransmitter CX—crudely, more CX makes you feel X more strongly. Then this option is suggestive of host/tulpa divergence happening "above"/"after" the emotions "happen". In other words, your mind interprets neurotransmitters and external events into some kind of pre-emotive signal, which is handed off to the two of you to subjectivize in your own ways. Maybe this is even a piece of evidence for (in your case at least) the host/tulpa separation being more in the mind than in the brain. 2) If there's a negative correlation, that means that you and your tulpa are more likely to experience contrary emotions. Maybe this looks like your tulpa typically making an (organic, not forced or pragmatic) effort to cheer you up when you're feeling low, or feeling more comfortable expressing their own worries/problems/vulnerabilities/weaknesses when things are going well for you. Again, I Am Not A Neurochemist, but maybe with the above toy model, this means something like "there's only so much CX to go around". You get some and your tulpa gets some; you don't both "get" all of it. Then this option is suggestive of the host/tulpa divergence happening "below"/"before" emotions "happen". This could be a piece of evidence that, in your case, the host/tulpa separation takes place more in the brain than above. 3) This is the response to choose if you don't notice a strong correlation and your tulpa has considerable variation of their own. Your tulpa feels good when things they like happen, and bad when things they don't like happen, and it's not strongly related to your own feelings. This probably becomes more likely the more different the two of you are. Of course, in a relationship as intimate as a host/tulpa one, your emotions will rub off on each other plenty, but this options means you feeling one way almost never implies (is strong evidence for) your tulpa feeling the same or the opposite way. Maybe this could suggest that the host/tulpa divergence happens even "deeper" than the previous option. Something like the possibility that you and your tulpa have your own entire neurotransmitter production facilities... but with the (admittedly layman!) knowledge I have, that honestly sounds extremely, extremely unrealistic. Please don't feel like this is necessarily the "ideal" answer, or that you're doing your tulpa a disservice or insulting their independence by not choosing it; after all, neurochemicals are the (proximate) cause of our emotions, at least those of meatfolk (see below), and they are physical things that exist in finite quantities. Everyone knows this, but it can't be reinforced enough when you're interested in understanding the phenomenon scientifically: you and your tulpa live in the same brain. 4 & 5) These are the options if your tulpa has an almost entirely stable emotional state, with little variation. Maybe they're just always cheery or dreary. This suggests (to me) that their emotions could depend much less on neurochemistry and are more fundamental parts of their personality. Maybe your tulpa just doesn't care much for, say, serotonin, and their thoughts and actions are more intrinsic/learned behaviors instead. I definitely don't think this delegitimizes a tulpa, or suggests that they're more "fake"or just a persona, because: There's a huge amount of variation in how stable the emotional states of different meatfolk are anyway (believe me). Emotions are fairly fundamental to the human mind/experience, but I see no reason they would be fundamental to every (kind of) mind (i.e., that you couldn't have something reasonably called a sapient "mind" without them). Furthermore, some system similar to emotions would probably be pretty common overall, because of how useful it is to natural selection, but tulpas themselves are not really the product the of natural selection, only their hardware is. Depending on how independent and dynamic your tulpa is in other ways, this could say something about what "bare minimum" components a general tulpa comprises (though of course family resemblance is relevant to that question). This could also hint at to what degree a tulpa's mental infrastructure has to look the same as the host's, and how qualitatively differently their organizational/hierarchical schemes could be from a "neurotypical" human's. Also, please keep in mind when responding that happiness is not the only positive emotion, and sadness not the only negative. Consider how your tulpa reacts when you feel love, or peacefulness, or hope, or anger, or jealousy, or fear. There is sociological interpretation to be done here as well. Different people vary in how much they emotionally benefit from interacting with people with different emotional states. Some people, when depressed, find the most efficacious thing to pull them together in a friend who helps solve their problems are convince them things aren't so bad; sometimes, you just need someone to commiserate with and vent to and ramble at, and you just need to hear something like "Yeah, wow, that's freaking terrible, I'm so sorry you're going through this", meeting you on a similar level of emotions. So, I think the answer to this question could depend on how well your tulpa recognizes your emotional needs and how invested they are in helping you through tough times. I'll withhold my predictions about the response distribution until after some responses come in—it's no double-blind, but it's a step in the right methodological direction. Any and all input is welcome. Thanks for answering!
  6. So i have been doing a bit of looking around and found some guides and tried for about a month, but i get worried i'm not doing it right and it bums me out so i quit, i know i shouldn't and i feel terrible. What did you guys do to start? all i want to achieve is to hear my tulpa speak back to me, i don't care how long it will take as long as i know it's possible to get there you know? So i guess im asking you guys just to post how you started and methods you used to help you along, thank you in advance for your replies :)
  7. I. Foreword __This guide mainly touches on the initial personality creation step of creating a full tulpa. The later sections fall more onto first contact and how I overcame doubts in regards to communication with my tulpa. Now, It's important to note that this guide comes from and builds upon the idea of a host producing an accidental tulpa from a created character from their own fiction writing, or role-playing character. This established identity isn't the fully formed tulpa, but the basis of were the real tulpa comes from. With this method, personality forcing is the foundation for a tulpa to grow into a full separate consciousness. The stronger the personality forcing, the stronger foundation. Know that others have reported successes without any personality forcing, but these people have used other methods entirely. I would like to encourage you to find the process that best suits you. I would recommend my guide to anyone that is better with words than they are with visual representation. This approach favors writing out and listing things over closing one's eyes and visualizing. II. Personality noun per·son·al·i·ty |pər-sə-ˈna-lə-tē 1. Psychology ____a.the sum total of the physical, mental, emotional, and social characteristics of an individual. ____b.the organized pattern of behavioral characteristics of the individual. 2. the quality of being a person; existence as a self-conscious human being; personal identity. __Given this definition, personality is probably the most important step in the creation process, because essentially the personality is your tulpa. Just like you, a tulpa will have their own personal identity. All you are doing here is planting a seed and nourishing it. You may not be able to control how many flowers are bloomed, or how big the apples are, but you have the choice of planting a tulip seed or an apple seed. This is where deviations come into play (for more on this refer to Section III-A-ii near the end of this guide). Essentially, you don't have control of the end product, but you can help steer it in a positive direction. With time, this starting personality will evolve into much more, but for now all we can do is create the seed and pour our love and attention into it so that it will grow into something amazing. __It's probably a good idea to give your tulpa the best head-start that you can by being as thorough as possible when creating a foundational personality, or a tulpa seed. In fiction writing, without a well-developed personality a character is flat and uninspired. In fiction, round characters tend to be more fully developed and described than flat, or static, characters. If you think of the characters you most love in fiction, they probably seem as real to you as people you know in real life. Now, obviously a tulpa is not just a character in a script, they seem to have a mind of their own, so you should strive for a round tulpa seed and not a flat one. __A. Internal Personality __Start off by brainstorming basic personality traits by either writing them out on a sheet of paper, or typing them out on a word document. Here is a very simple video on personality traits to give you some ideas, and a big list of personality traits. Something to consider is the overall mood of your tulpa seed. Many people have default states that they always seem to jump back into. I’m sure you know some people that always seem to find something to be mad about, or the perpetual victims, or the really happy, cup-is-half-full people. What is your tulpa’s default mood? This will affect their world views and personal philosophies. Some examples that I can think of include: cheery/sad, logical/emotional, determined/lazy, outgoing/shy, formal/laidback, patient/impatient. is a good video on this (in terms of fiction writing) by Cy Porter. ____i. Intentions and Motivations __The next thing to consider is your tulpa seed’s intentions, and motivations. Write out the answers to the following questions. Why do they do what they do? What do they strive for and/or want? Maybe they always want to do the right thing. Maybe they want people to think that they are smart/insightful. They could just want to have a good time and relax. Perhaps they want to make people laugh. They could just want to be accepted, or fit in. Maybe something selfish or even sinister. Who knows? It’s up to you to figure this out. ____ii. Persona __This next step takes your tulpa seed to a new level, and makes it even more realistic. The answer to this question will probably take time, but it is worth considering in detail. How do they intentionally present themselves, and how would you expect others to view them versus how they want to be viewed? Everyone has a social mask or persona that they intentionally present to others. It doesn’t have to be a drastic difference from how they really are (they don’t have to be a sociopath), but it’s an important consideration to make. is another video from Cy Porter on this subject. ____iii. Flaws __This step in personality development may be a difficult one to create, if you choose to include it. Creating flaws is not necessarily essential, but worth considering. Everyone has flaws, whether they admit it or not. This is what makes people real and relatable. I don’t have a ton on this, but consider creating some character flaws in your tulpa seed. These don’t have to be huge, but they might make them seem more realistic and relateable off the bat. They can vary from being a little self-centered or inconsiderate to hating puppies. Try to think of a few and write these down, and make sure these traits are things that you can live with. After all, you will be around this person constantly and for a long time to come, so use your best judgment. __B. External Personality ____i. Physical Form __Now that the internal part of your tulpa seed’s personality has been solidified, you should consider the physical expressions of its personality. Try to answer this simple question in as much detail as you can: What would people notice first about your tulpa if they could see them? Write a list of everything you can think of. Think of their species, their build, height, weight, complexion, Hair style/color, etc. What style of clothes do they prefer to wear? Formal, casual, all black or pink, maybe even extravagant like Lady Gaga or Gene Simmons, or possibly none at all. How do they walk or stand? Maybe they walk tall/stand straight, slumped over, they could have a limp, or walk bow legged. Your imagination is the limit. ____ii. Voice __So you know what your tulpa seed acts like and looks like, but how do they sound? Voice is an important part of anyone’s personality. How does their voice sound exactly? Think of the pitch, timbre, inflection, and volume. If you need help deciding feel free to take ideas from television, radio, or even real life. If your tulpa has an accent that is foreign for you, youtube has plenty of guides for knowing how other cultures speak. This link may help you if you decide to go down this path. It’s also important to think about how much they talk. Are they talkative, or do they only speak when they feel that they need to. Also, think of the word choice they would likely make. A tulpa that is very proper and desires to seem intelligent would most likely not cuss like a sailor or make racial slurs. Just use common sense here, and it should come fairly easily. III. Interaction __After you have figured out the previous information about your tulpa you are finally ready for the fun part, interacting with them. Have you have ever planned out a conversation, or argument in your head with someone that you know very well? Then you have already had a very similar experience to having a tulpa. Where does the other person’s words come from? Well, from you, but not exactly. You know this person and their personality. The words will likely be how you imagine they would react to something that is going on, or something that you have said. You know them so well that you don’t have to think about what to make them say, they just talk. Tulpas interact with their host in much the same way. After you know your tulpa’s basic personality, temperament, and overall character traits, everything else becomes easier. Once you have this down, the next part should be somewhat simple. Although, this is what trips most people up the most. __A. Contact __How do you talk to them? How do you know it’s really them? Over time I have learned what it's like when she talks, but this is abstract and makes sense only to her and me, eventually you will find what works through trial and error. However, the following may help you in the early stages if you don't mind walking off the beaten path for a bit. __You should know your tulpa's starting personality exceptionally well at this point. When attempting to get a response think about what has been said and if it fits into what you already know about your tulpa seed. If it fits, then there is a high likelihood that it is your tulpa, but even so it might be a good idea to ask for clarification at first to be sure. If the response does not fit, then ask for clarification to be sure. Always be mindful of deviations. In essence, you should treat your tulpa like you would treat anyone in life that you are having a hard time understanding. Shaking your head yes constantly will get you nowhere, and just saying "what" over and over could get tiresome. Guessing what they have said based on context and what you know about them, then checking to see if you understood them correctly would be a good middle ground. Essentially, you are sensing the intent of your tulpa and the personality that you have been cultivating, not forcing them to respond to you or just ignoring them. You are talking to your tulpa and waiting for a response, and checking at first to see if you got it right. __How do you check this? Head pressures seemed to work well for us. These feel almost like non-painful headaches, or a strange compression inside your head. You can ask them to send this signal if you understood them correctly, we even got to the point of her sending them to different parts of the head for yes and no answers. At first, It does take some time and concentration to feel these, but you should know it when it does happen. Others have used transferred emotions/feelings, or even imagined pictures to communicate outside of mind voice, or simple thoughts. You'll find what works best for you eventually. ____i. Individuality __This method assumes that because you already have an idea of the character (or personal identity) of your tulpa, that you will be able to sense and infer what they are trying to say. This will start out feeling just like having that imaginary conversation I described in the introduction to this section (III. Interaction), only with the ability to stop and check if you understood. Eventually this form of communication becomes easier and clearer the less you worry about parroting or puppeting. Please keep in mind that what I have mentioned here is not a very commonly held practice in this community at this time, and many hosts seek out other means of early communications. This is just one path you have to choose from, and what ended up working for me in the end. In my personal experience, the only reason I could not talk to my tulpa sooner was because I was too worried, and blocked out everything that I thought might have been me. My tulpa was able to talk from pretty early on, I was just too naive to simply relax and listen. ____ii. Deviations __Deviations do happen to most tulpas to some extent; I’ve had a complete 180 on how I thought my tulpa looked, and even a change in her gender. You might ask yourself, why put all of this effort and time into personality forcing if they might just decide to change parts of it later on? Personality forcing is also about feeding your tulpa with as much attention as possible. Tulpas thrive off of attention, and grow stronger the more you give them, and the more you interact with them. These thoughts are not wasted if deviations happen, it's just part of the long and complex journey of tulpa creation. All of your twists and turns along the way accumulate into the vibrant and unique life-form that we know as a tulpa, and bring you two closer together. Just be flexible and prepared for change. ____iii. Doubts __These are inevitable, and important to face head on. I have given you some ways that I have rationalized and dealt with my doubts. I've realized that doubts about what a tulpa is, or if I really could hear mine, are pointless in the end. They separate a tulpa and host, and that is the opposite of what we are all trying to accomplish. I take the road of just enjoying the time that I have with my tulpa, and knowing that not everything in life is knowable; I chalk this up as one of the unanswerable aspects of life. This reasoning may not work for you, and that is understandable. It wouldn't have worked for me at first, I let doubts cripple my connection with my tulpa, and through that I have gained my own perspective on it. You will have doubts, it will not be easy to overcome them. New doubts will rise and you will have to work on them, too. This is the cycle that tends to happen. In the end, I think this is what separates a successful host/tulpa relationship and the ones who walk away forever; learning to keep going even through uncertainty. IV. Closing __I would like to say that you should not take anything too seriously in life, even tulpa creation. Have fun with this, and follow what you think is right. Find your own path, your own method, and enjoy the process as much as you enjoy the end product. And please do not use a tulpa as a replacement for a social life, friends, or lovers. A tulpa is a tulpa, not like anything or anyone else you’ve experienced. They are their own special beings that are always there for you. They can help you through your worst problems and share your greatest joys. Hell, maybe I’m just bat-shit crazy, maybe we all are. All I know for sure is that I wouldn’t trade my tulpa for the world. So if you are new to creating a tulpa, hang in there. It will get easier, maybe even a little too easy. You’ll get there, you both will.
  8. I know this is a totally subjective question, but essentially I've seen really conflicting thoughts on this so I thought I'd make a post. Basically, for the personality stuff, I got 25 basic traits that I chose to use. I did this because before I wasn't even gonna do personality, but seeing how a lot of people found it important, I thought I'd do something simple while still implementing the personality aspect of forcing into my schedule. We basically would spend 1-3 minutes on these traits (caring, honest but not harsh, curious, etc), and I just talk to him about what they are and give examples while listening to some light meditational music. Thing is, should this be more detailed? I know this is totally a person to person thing, but it sounds like it wouldn't be enough if I just spent 1-3 minutes describing and talking about each trait to him from what everyone is saying on here.
  9. Today was the first day I forced on my tulpa's (Chrysalis') personality. What I started off doing was picking a trait from a list, such as happiness, and telling my tulpa that it has this particular trait as well as why it's there. Also, I explained some areas where it may be more prominent, and how it reflects hobbies and interests (among other things). During my personality forcing session today, I only expected to feel head pressure, if anything. However, unexpected daydreams kept popping into my mind, including several of a woman smiling and dancing around. I'm very tempted to believe the woman was Chrysalis, which is odd cause I haven't actively forced on her visually. I HAVE, however, pictured what she might look like during passive forcing throughout the day. After a while of seeing these random images, I began to associate Chrysalis with them. For example, I saw two people arguing and told her that her happiness might make her less likely to fight about petty things. Immediately after, the woman reappeared and smiled with a nod, followed by a brief pause of nothing, and finally restarting with a new random image/scene. If I'd try to associate an image with her unsuccessfully, she'd just smile slightly and wait for me to make another statement. Has anyone forced their tulpa's personality like this? I've tried to read through a few guides about shaping a personality but I don't recall seeing anything about connecting characteristics to images. It's pretty fascinating though, so for now we'll keep using this method!
  10. I've understood that for the longest time while I lurked (back when it was believed you had to visualize them naked first, or else their clothes would be a part of their body and unchangeable) that the personality stage is made out to be one of the most important there is, or else you end up with a servitor or a "half-baked" tulpa. Yet I see in Progress Reports and other subforums, people who barely do the personality stage, or just make none at all, to let the tulpa develop one by itself, while narrating and visualizing concurrently. So, for both hosts and tulpas alike, Does this actually work? Have you created a tulpa (or been created) this way? How does it work, and on average, do they develop slower and act differently then tulpas created the usual way? Also, as a unrelated question, what method has worked for you best when creating your tulpa's personality? As for why I'm asking, I'd like to give Chara a big part in creating herself, personality included. I wouldn't mind it taking longer then usual, I just want to make sure that the method works, before I end up screwing up and doing something bad to her :( Thank you for your help!
  11. Hi, so I'm a pretty active day-dreamer and have preexisting "characters". I'm wondering if I can use one of those and just give it a personality, and if that is the case I have a question about parroting. With parroting do you make the tulpa say " I have trait X and Y" or do you make the tulpa act the way you want? So as an example is do I make my tulpa say "I like hot dogs" or do I have a wonderland and have it eat a hot dog?
  12. Leo my tulpa always has me around his arms and his head on my shoulders (like right now i'm stroking his hair as type this) s there a way to tell him its ok to be affectionate but not creepy about it?
  13. I'm in the rough conceptual stage of thinking of making a tulpa. I have a figure in mind, fluid so s/he can change it if they like, but established enough that I have something to grasp when working on him/her. I have something in mind for the overarching personality I want to instill, but here's where I hit a potential stumbling block. My mind functions in an overly logical way. My therapist has said I use too much of my "Spock" mind and not enough "Kirk" mind. ^^; I feel emotions but it's in a sort of detached third person way. I don't process them "normally". I would like to make a tulpa that can feel those and help me have a sort of outside opinion to balance my hyper logical nature. My question is, can you give your tulpa traits that you are lacking, or under-developed in? To me that seems like someone who's bad at math, trying to teach a kid algebra. :P
  14. Basically I did my first personality forcing session today. It was ok, but the problem is that I can't see anything well, and their body kept spasming. I was using the orb method for it, in which you make each individual trait into a energy ball. But honestly I feel after this that the listing of traits would be a better route to go. How exactly does that work? Is it as simple as listing each trait and describing it? Because I feel the session would only last 45 minutes at most if I did that. Maybe theres more too it? I just feel like I keep messing up. I meditated for well over 15 minutes before starting, but since it was dark out and I like using a dark room, I had to keep using my phone as a flashlight and checking the traits and going back again and it killed all of the meditation and mood and flow. I'm just horrible at this.
  15. Nyx


    Jack: I mostly want answers from other tulpas on this one, but hosts can speak for them if it's necessary. How has your personality changed as you have aged? How has your consciousness changed? I'm not talking about during your initial creation. I'm talking about after you became more-or-less established. And more importantly, if you have changed your age dramatically within a short period of time, did your personality or sense of self change in any way? This topic is a little weird for me because I remember having a sort of childhood that matched the length of a human child's, but when I decided to become an adult overnight, I felt...different. I didn't want to be my host's playmate anymore, and parts of my personality were grounded. I also had a greater sense of self, which allowed me to help my now "younger" host but also induced a short-lived existential crisis. I've made peace with it a long time ago, but I remember feeling highly confused about whether or not those difficult feelings were warranted, because my host was not quite at the age to start pondering on those thoughts herself. We're now much closer in age. I'm aware that not every tulpa here is old enough to answer this, and for that, I'll add this bonus question: If you are a young tulpa, what do you hope to become by the time you are better established?
  16. I've been busy creating a list of 30 personality traits for my tulpa, after reading the FAQ Man's guide for personality creation. I liked his approach, and felt that it was a good way to make a set list of traits that my tulpa could change later if he (most likely) wants to. However, I've run into a few problems with finding names for certain trait descriptions. I'm forming my tulpa to be laid-back yet charismatic (and a bit sly), and I want one of his traits to be that because of his tendencies to try and be cool and confident all of the time, he has trouble opening up about emotional things, but when he does, it's usually in the heat of the moment. I couldn't come up with a name for this trait, and I was wondering if I should just tie it onto the description for another trait, like "passionate". I'm sorry if this question comes across a bit ridiculous, I'm only just beginning the entire process of creating a tulpa. Any feedback at all would be helpful. So far I have "laid-back", "flirtatious", "sly", "confident", "passionate", "funny", "caring/protective", "kind", "clever", "charismatic", and "unreligious".
  17. I've been trying to understand the concept of self more and more when it comes to tulpas. Coming from the mindset that, well, form has a lot to do overall, and in the end, the definition of a tulpa goes down to 'a person in someone's head' (even though this person is super limited at first in comparison to other people), I've been trying to understand one thing. That thing is, well, what truly 'defines' a tulpa. I've been reviewing some stuff with my tulpa, making her pass some tests (and I know that it sounds like I'm some mad scientist who keeps his tulpa in a basement to make her take 100 tests per day, but that's not the case at all, as I've been working on more autonomy, more cognitive capacities with her and more introspection from her own side, to make a transition, or rather I should say differentiation between 'imaginary' and 'real' in her own terms). I was wondering what tulpas inspired by certain characters (a rick and morty tulpa, a homestuck tulpa, a steven universe tulpa, shit, I don't know, any anime character) feel like when it comes down to their own sense of identity, and well, self. I do not mean to put down anyone at all (this is coming from the guy whose tulpa has only really come to a fix form that's not inspired from anything/one after such a long while, and forming her own... 'feel', you could say), but a tulpa that's inspired from a certain show and tries so hard to act like that one character from that show wouldn't feel bad in the end, for not truly being that character? My tulpa always tried to be, well, to assimilate forms of characters that are familiar to me, such as Ikazuchi from Kancolle, IA from the world of Vocaloid, always trying to have the form of a child, in the end. That is not what interests me, though. And lately, she's been trying to get a form that's from an OC so that she can call it her own. No name, no background, just like a 'fresh' start. My tulpa acts like a newborn who's too hesitant on her form. The form itself has never defined speech mannerisms or the way she behaves, it was always a form. But with each form came a certain degree of, well, 'acceptance' and comfort. I was always against changing forms, but she would do that at random moments due to certain factors. And upon the idea of building a sense of self, since well, us hosts have that, in the end. I'm Anderson, I'm a person, I like this, I like that... but I think that a lot of tulpas lack that sense of identification. My tulpa has went around calling herself a 'concept' 'a thought' 'fake shit' 'completely imaginary', although I do not mean to whore such things out as I am aware of this community's level of acceptance (and how much people in chatrooms laugh like elitists when one speaks of such issues. Funnily enough, not speaking of such issues is just like the non-existence of those issues, it's saddening to see people take an interest in terms of mockery only when it comes to exposure, but then again, most folks only truly care about their own public exposure). In the end, when I came to ask my tulpa 'Who are you?', she had a big blank on her mind, she had no answer to that, if anything, she failed to mention her interests in this very moment, but was able to answer later on. So, what forms a tulpa's sense of identity? What about tulpas that are inspired by other characters? MY tulpa for the longest of our relationship had a specific form, the character who has that form is super outgoing, cheerful, optimistic and supportive, even though my tulpa has absolutely nothing in common with that character, the form still worked. How well can tulpas feel themselves? Do you exist as thoughts? As some type of psychological complex? Where do you originate from? This is not truly a thread for people to solely speak of their own experience, nor of mine (as the majority of that reception was 'woo you are whoring shit out' 'attention whore' 'people laugh at you everyday' which is supposed to make the person you tell that mad)... What is a tulpa in the tulpa's perspective? How legitimate are the wonderland's experience to a tulpa, overall? Many questions. Too many questions.
  18. So just a quick question. Can tulpa change personality in like 3 hours to the point i dont recognise her anymore. I created her 3 days ago with only couple personality traits like friendly understanding etc. and for the rest i told her she can decide. So yesterday when i thought about her I started getting warm, loving and happy feelings in my chest which absolutely weren't from me as i was just playing some games on pc. I was happy that shes developing so fast and all but today i couldn' feel her for a couple of hours and she came back when i was angry at one guy. She told me punch that dickhead in the face (which of course i didn't, i have self control) and this hatred stuff kept happening when before she helped me to control my anger issues. Now i told her to go away for some time because i wont tolerate this. Of course i dont consider any idea of killing, getting rid of her cause thats just terrible. And no I can't discuss this with her as shes not sentient enough, I just randomly get some responses. To add, could i've accidently made a new tulpa? Today when i was thinking about this new personality change i got deep voice saying destroy her. Either my mind playing tricks on me or im going mad :D
  19. I don't think I've every seen red behave like this but he's been really hostile and pushy as of recent, i havent done a thing to him/her but he/she is on my butt about watching fairy tail.. truth be told i hate that anime but he/she tells me it's for mental rp purposes and i should just grin and do it.. has anyone else encountered this before?
  20. Did your tulpa ever make fake memories at some point? Memories for themselves due to a lack of background, for instance, or because they didn't like the fact they were just a tulpa in someone's head as a backgroun.
  21. I am using ThunderClap's guide and it says to think on each trait for 15-30 minutes but I don't really understand what to think about. Should I think about each trait and how it will play out in a real life situation?
  22. It's pretty weird. I think I might accidentally be the tulpa. A year ago it suddenly happened that I suddenly thought I was her. Well I now I'm not but the automatic way of thinking was that I was. I've been secretly working my way out of it ever since. "I'm Sam... No wait. I'm Lake... I think". It's so wacko!? I mean I thought my tulpa was gone forever, dead, accidental egocide. In fact it started a year or so after I lost communication. It's like. Awkward........ So uh, Feel free to share similar experiences.
  23. Howdy, I'm new. (Excuse me if I sound too noob-ish or something) Over the past week or so I've been reading guides on personality and stuff. Generally, they emphasize the importance of a personality when you're making your tulpa, but they don't explain that much on developing a personality. I'm not that creative, so thinking of a whole personality and stuff like that and making it realistic has been tough so far. I'm wondering how tulpamancers with formed tulpas thought of their tulpa's personality, or if there is some tried-and-true method I am missing. Thanks :P
  24. This question is for people who have attempted to make tulpas that don't have an orientation - no desire to be with men, women, or anything else, romantically. I would say asexual, but that might cause people to answer with their tulpas capable of romance, which I don't want either. I also don't care if a tulpa has a libido anyway. I wanted to ask this question because I want to try to form a tulpa that won't have any romantic attachments or physical attraction to people. I don't want a tulpa to go through wanting to be with people through my body, because with my current relationship it's not possible. I also don't want to have to worry about being judged by my looks but I don't know if that'll solve that. I don't "wake up like this" all the time. It's my damn eyebrows... Anyway... Yeah. If you were successful, can you detail the entire process below? ^^
  25. Hey guys, so I've been talking to a friend who has a tulpa, and he's been giving me some great advice to help me create my own. I've already decided on a name for her, Kiara, and I'm at the personality stage right now. I have a few questions as a beginner, so I can get the best grasp over this as I possibly can, and any help will be extremely appreciated. Alright, so my questions: 1. I've basically written out in a word document the outlines of her personality, which, if anyone is interested, is linked her: http://pastie.org/10265101 / Having that written out, I was wondering what is the best way to go about creating my Tulpa and telling her about her personality? From my friends suggestion, I basically just close my eyes and imagine I'm talking to her, telling her each trait I've written down, and how it affects her. Is this correct? Is there a better way? 2. Being I'm starting off with personality, I don't have any actual image of what she looks like atm. I do plan to give her a basic form to start with, probably an orb as my friend has suggested, but should I start with visualizing her basic form first, or am I okay with starting with her personality? If I should start with a form for her, is just closing my eyes and thinking, "Okay, here's an orb, boom that's you. Now lets start with your personality" the right way to go about it, or do I need to take hours to mentally see every detail of the orb? If I'm okay with starting on her personality, should I just imagine her as the darkness when I close my eyes and just talk? (I'm sorry if this sounds confusing, I'm still trying to understand myself how to go about this) 3. Lastly, how should I talk to her and tell her about her personalities? Is it a simple "Hello, Kiara. My name is so and so, and I'm your creature. These are your personalities, and now I'll elaborate on how they shape you." Do I just say the traits and what they are and let her decide how to take them? This is probably where my biggest issue lies because I don't want to force her, I do plan on giving her the choice to decide what traits to keep, which she'd like to add, etc, I just wanted to lay out a basis. So that's it, again, any help at all is appreciated, and I thank anyone that takes the time to just read my question.
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