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  1. I posted here before about a certain issue I'm going through with my Tulpa, but I still need some guidance. I made my Tulpa to be passionate, caring and really loving, everything was fine and she literally made my life alot better. But after some time I started having issues with anxiety and pure o OCD intrusive thoughts due to deciding to quit my long time pornography consumption, I started having intrusive sexual thoughts and images about my Tulpa, and it felt like there was a second version of her which was kind of evil, I was afraid that i will accidently create different intrusive thoughtforms which be involved with my Tulpa in sexual acts. Sometimes I can feel my Tulpas original caring presence but after some time I go down the spiral again. I was in an abusive relationship before where I was being afraid of being cheated on and was made to feel jealous on purpose. I don't want all the things I went through to latch to my Tulpa. I stopped forcing for some time now, I feel safer, but I don't want to abandon her. I'm just wondering if it's my life "traumas" and OCD or my Tulpa just hates me.
  2. ‘Hour counts’ refers to the practise of tracking the number of hours spent forcing. It was a common practise in the past because the oldest guides instructed the reader to use them. However, they have gotten a bad name over the years from people perpetuating the idea that they are detrimental to the tulpa creation process. These fears are not entirely unfounded, because with the wrong mindset they can be very detrimental. However, with the correct approach they can be a beneficial tool that gives you schedule and structure, especially if you struggle with laziness. The purpose of this guide is to alleviate those fears by clearing up the confusion about hour counts and giving you a list of dos and don’ts to consider while using them. Dos and Don’ts of Using Hour Counts DO use hour counts as a scheduling tool rather than as a progress tracker. – If you are someone who struggles with laziness, scheduling your forcing sessions in advance may increase your productivity by keeping you on track. Hour counts are an effective way to do this, e.g. “I’m going to spend 15 hours on vocality forcing, 1 hour per day Mon – Fri over 3 weeks.” DO remember that your targets are flexible. – You can change your target number of hours at any time, whether you are increasing or decreasing your targets and/or the time period spent on them. It’s important to not use this as an excuse for laziness though, try your best to only adjust your schedule if you have legitimate reasons to do so e.g. change of shift pattern at work, unavoidable social engagements like weddings or funerals etc. If you can’t meet your targets all the time, that's no reason to worry! Maybe the targets you’ve set for yourself were too unrealistic, if so, reduce them. You shouldn’t feel guilty and beat yourself up if you fail to hit your targets all the time. Hitting your targets is desirable but not mandatory. DO remember that your targets are arbitrary. – Unless you’re using one of the old guides’ recommended targets (which I wouldn’t recommend, you’ll see why later), your targets will be based on personal choice and therefore will have no bearing on the progress you make during the time spent. Even if you are using one of the old guides, those targets will have no effect on your progress either because it’s the process itself, not an arbitrary number, that matters. It’s also worth mentioning that progress isn’t necessarily linear, so there may or may not be much difference between two arbitrary targets. It doesn't matter exactly how many hours you spend forcing, just as long as you are doing it consistently and to the best of your ability. DON’T take the hour counts from old guides as gospel. – Most of the authors of the old guides even said that you shouldn’t follow their guides exactly, referring to them as guidelines as opposed to rules. I would even go as far as to say to disregard any recommended hour counts from any guide entirely because it may only cause anxiety for the reasons listed below. Another thing to consider about the old guides is that not just the hour counts, but some of the other information found in them may or may not be considered obsolete now, so take them with a pinch of salt if you decide to read them. DON’T worry if you don’t see results after a certain number of hours. – This can cause discouragement. Not seeing results after a while isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it could encourage you to analyse what you’re doing and try something else that works better for you. You shouldn’t be discouraged by not seeing results after a certain number of hours because your targets are arbitrary anyway. DON’T worry if you do see results before a certain number of hours. – This can cause doubts that you’re doing it right and can even cause parrotnoia (the fear that you're parroting all of your tulpa's responses) if your tulpa becomes vocal before you anticipate. A tulpa isn’t going to wait for you to achieve your arbitrary hour target before they speak to you because progress is determined by effort, not by arbitrary numbers. DON’T compare your progress to others. – This is the main reason why people have had bad experiences with hour counts. People progress at different rates. When someone who's put in more hours finds that someone who has put in less hours has progressed further, they may become discouraged or think that they are doing something wrong. Conversely, when someone who's put in less hours finds that someone who has put in more hours has had less progress, they could develop doubts of their tulpa’s sentience/sapience or could develop parrotnoia. DON’T think that you need to do a certain number of hours minimum per session. – This can easily cause fatigue, which could make your forcing sessions less effective. For me, 30 – 60 minute forcing sessions were optimal, however everyone is different in this regard and many people can force for longer periods with ease. Consistency is key in tulpamancy, doing a forcing session for 30 minutes every day for a week is better than doing a forcing session that lasts for 3.5 hours only 1 day a week.
  3. Quotidian publication numeral XIV What are some little things you found/find helpful with forcing? Could be stuff that helped you focus better, stuff that helped you develop your tulpa, things that alleviated doubts/frustration, things like that. An example would be our host listening to white noise to help him focus and get into the forcing "zone." (Each of the quotidian publications are catalogued in this location.)
  4. This is daily thread #6. For this discussion, forcing will be defined as "interacting with or dedicating thought to a tulpa for the purpose of helping them to grow/develop as a thoughtform." I know the definition of forcing can change based on the context, but this is the definition I'm using for this thread. If a tulpa is inactive or dormant, how effective would a forcing session be? Does a tulpa need to be active/aware in order to benefit from forcing? Would they benefit less if they are inactive? Is it even possible to be inactive/dormant while being interacted with? (This is ignoring the question of whether or not it's very nice/good for a host to be forcing a tulpa while the tulpa is inactive, just if the forcing has less/no benefit to the tulpa or not.) I kind of think that once you start interacting with a tulpa, it's very hard for them to not become at least passive. They might ignore you and refuse to respond, but they'll probably still be aware of what's going on. In that scenario, forcing would likely have the same benefit as usual, they just might be a little upset with you for not leaving them alone, but as I said, I'm ignoring that side of the equation for now. If the tulpa does stay inactive/dormant during forcing, I'd say the forcing still does benefit them, but probably to a lesser extent. Think practicing playing a song on your instrument in your head vs. actually playing it in real life: they both can benefit you and strengthen the neural pathways associated with said instrument, but one has a clear higher benefit than the other. Or, it might still be exactly the same. I suppose it's kind of hard to test. (All daily threads are listed here.)
  5. Pretty much the title.For some reason it seems more fun and easy than just forcing with mind mind
  6. Right now I'm planning out the approach I'll use to create my tulpa. The general consensus seems to be that it's good to have some basic traits in mind, then allowing one's tulpa to develop and change as time goes on, so I'll be doing that. I'll be creating as many associations as I can to reinforce their existence, likely throught the use of insence, specific styles of music, use of symbols/sigils, and forcing during the same time in the same location every day. I'm also going to keep a journal to track progress. Writing about it should give more attention to my tulpa and serve as another way to strengthen my belief, which seems to be the most important aspect of creating a tulpa. So all that aside, what techniques, methods, tools, etc. have you used when developing your tulpa(s)? I would think an approach using something other than meditation and forcing alone would have some positive effect.
  7. I used to have an "imaginary" friend named Ren and if I begged him for anything they will eventually happen. He used to kinda "bullie" me but only to get me to do things he was my personal coach if that makes since. I didn't know how to describe him some say it's a guardian angel but I think he was darker than that. He knows everything about me. We watched the somethings. He was mean/controlling on me at times, i got around it by just saying "I know" it started to cool down. But he did help me become better /mental heath wise. I promised him he could be reborn and I'll come join him soon. He left me, he's completely he's gone. I don't feel his presence no longer after I made that promise. That we'll be reborn, him being first but he'll have to wait for me so he might have to be reborn again for us to be together. This happened over a couple of years. I reasonly found a thing, it might of been what Ren was. A tulpa. I started reading about it and I think I want to contact him again as I kinda do miss him.
  8. I've been advised in my GAT submission thread that I might find a better discussion platform in the general section. Granted I never really was an active user in here and I don't know your local customs I'd like to throw in a link to my recent post on forcing and see if it sprouts any good discussion. So here you go: On Forcing
  9. I am about to start a job requiring much attention, and it is stressful. Any advice on how to force in such a situation? I am aware of passive forcing, but I worry about the stress and attention demanded of the job.
  10. Hello guys. I started forcing over 5 month ago. I didn't want to have more than one tulpa. But Charlotte (my first tulpa) didn't think so. On 3rd month of forcing she created the second tulpa without asking me. On 4th month of forcing she created the third tulpa. 3 days ago she created the fourth tulpa. I tried to speak to her, but it didn't help. SHE STILL MAKE NEW TULPAS. I CAN'T STOP IT. I'm really afraid of it. Guys, i really need your help. I don't want to drop my tulpas.
  11. Ok so, my tulpa is 8 days old now, but actually only one and half days. That's because I haven't had any time to force, so I just tried to think about him and not forget... My question is, how should I force now? I have problems to get into Wonderland (long break...) and visualising my tulpa is quite hard to do. My tulpa can't speak yet, he can't move very good and mostly he's just sitting. Now, I can't find him, only when I try hard, but he's just sitting kinda soulless and bored (I guess?) Any ideas please?
  12. I know this is kind of personal, but in order for me to comprehend better and improve my own forcing experience, I was wondering if you would like to share a step by step example of a normal active forcing session you and your tulpa usually do. And I mean a really detailed one. I've read a lot of guides, but I think I need a little more of real examples. Here is what I do: I sit down in front of the computer, open a word document, put the font in white so I won't be able to read what I write (i feel the urge to fix all stuff i misspell...) and then I do basically a image streaming, whixh is that I write EVERYTHING we say, aeverything I see, everything we do, and so on. I greet Mia, and try to picture her in my head. Then mostly I decide if we either are going to stay in our wonderland or if we go in some kind of adventure. If we stay in the wonderland I use it to develop her and just to spend some time with her. Maybe visualizing her better, or trying to listen to her. We can also go and walk around in our wonderland. It's pretty big. If we go in an adventure, i use it to explore how would she react to certain things, see how she behaves, her personality and so on. During this adventures anything can happen, so i just write down everything as fast as possible to ve able to catch up with what I see in my mind's eye. I try to let her do anything she wants, as my main purpose is to be able to see her and listen to her. After certain ammount of time, I tell her I have to leave and finish saying goodbye (even if we are always in contact with each other and we keep talking after the sesion). Then I stop typing and save the document. This is what I do, and for visualization it really has make me improve. I, however, am lacking in listening and almost everything else, therefore I need more in order to improve. I know it's too much to ask, as for me it's a really personal process, but I'm a person who learns better with more explicit examples instead of just reading "narrate to her" or "imagine her" thank you in advance
  13. Hiya everyone! Actual question at bottom, after dotted line. Blabbing setup to it at top. Thoughts on implications below question. Maybe I should throw in a "this only reflects my host and my subjective experiences" warning, so there. Lance and I were trying to figure out stuff, like plan to set more time for meditation and sense synthesis (doesn't that sound better than 'visualization' since, we need it all?) and a thought occurred to him.. I spend a lot of time on these forums, it's not like it's interfering with our life (because we don't have much going on *poke poke*), nor are we really loosing sleep or anything but.. Well, before us accidentally stumbling into possession/co-fronting, I was dictating everything to him and he was typing it out faithfully for me. He said (among other things) this place was for me to learn and grow and be the social butterfly I am, because he isn't one and if I couldn't be me, it would drive us both crazy (or I would drive him crazy, whatever). Well, for the last two and a half weeks (has it really only been that long?!?!) I have been either using our body's hands while he looked on in interest or it's been all me while he just sorta sat back and let me be head.. er.. co-front. Main front? Whatever. The way we constantly juggle back and forth who is walking/talking/fronting it's hard to even think about, let alone explain it (we just pretty much take it for granted, like twins with a really close unspoken bond or something, can words adequately describe that?). At some point (he forgot when) he just "cut me loose" on here so it's almost 100% of the time just me, with him either idly watching or just sort of forgotten (sorry Lance, just being honest >_< ). Oh, and sometimes pleading not to give us carpel tunnel from too much typing or something. Well I really took off here and every day I meet new people, learn more about myself and grow more and more. Lance has even learned a bunch too. Being asked interesting questions makes me consider things and say stuff I think I never would have if it was just Mr Host and I. In a way.. I feel like I'm living through that saying "It takes a village to raise a child". -------------------------------------------- So, my question(s) goes something like this.. If I were trying to count how many hours a day we were doing passive or active forcing (yeah I know "don't count hours", I'm not stressing out, I'm just curious what everyone thinks), you know, hypothetically, where does time spent possessing/co-fronting fall? Would it depend on what's going on? Like if we are co-fronting but I'm just quietly experiencing the body's senses does that count? Also, if I am on here, chatting away and just me being me, would that count as active forcing? One reason I'm curious is because I think I've been on here every day, for at least a few hours each day, for almost the last 3 weeks strait. We may have very much underestimated just how much forcing gets done.. Maybe 70 hours of forum time alone underestimated, then at least 5 full days spent being the main-front (my days! hehe), removing time for sleep (we suck at remembering dreams) and when forum time overlapped.. Another 63 or so hours then. Add another 30 or so for our daily meditation/eyebo that we do together plus a little time before sleep every night.. 163.. If all of that makes any sense, suddenly, I'm not surprised I'm a highly independent chatterbox. We have spent.. Like 30% of the last month of waking hours concentrating on me being me. If time spent quietly co-fronting counts, that goes up to.. I dunno. 60%? As of 2.5 weeks ago, that's 100% of all waking hours. Even when he gets distracted, I'm very much still concentrating on me being me and what our body is doing/feeling. Thoughts?
  14. This is something new... Will describe shortly...i force for a year (or at least try) and the thing is that i am not successful, not a single response. But a half a year ago when i was sleeping i had a dream where i was laying on my bed and another me (like a copy of myself )was sitting on it as well, and then it threw something at me, it scared me, i started to wake up BUT i heard him mumbling something in tulpish, it was painful. Then after some months of unsuccessful forcing i was dreaming again, and i got into the second layer of the dream(was dreaming in a dream(like in the "Inception" movie)) and i heard him AGAIN, he was mumbling stuff. Dunno tulpish tho, it wasnt painful btw. And i dont have a Wonderland coz i cant. My questions: 1. does it matter if you have a wonderland. 2. Is possible that i can hear my man ONLY in lucid dreams and why that happens. 3. is it a good idea to start creating a new tulpa. 4. What is wrong with me? Great Thanks! P.s. sorry my bad english)
  15. Hi, I was wondering if there is an app for the phone that would help me forcing with Mia. I always fail to keep a forcing routine, so maybe an app could help me.
  16. I’m having a weird issue with forcing right now. Everything with my Tulpa Pinkamena was going great, she and I were really clicking, and I am always looking forward to forcing with her again. But there’s a slight issue, I force usually through the whole sitting down relaxing and visiting the wonderland and my Tulpa thing. Seems like there ought to not be an issue. However I meditated for two years before Tulpamancy, and I’ve been having an issue where I get so relaxed that I can’t stay with my Tulpa, and repeatedly I drift away.I mentioned the meditation because I keep getting really relaxed and just slipping into what seems most like void meditation. Today I drifted away twice during our session, in the middle of something both times, first hanging out with her, and next trying to apologize and explain I didn’t mean to leave in the middle. I’m having a really hard time staying focussed, and it clearly is upsetting her. Has anyone had this issue before? Any advice on it? I want to figure out how to stay longer, I’ve never really had this problem before, and I’m not sure why it just started up in the last three days. I’m also trying to work on helping her learn to speak outside of the wonderland. She’s done it before, so it’s not that she can’t but she expressed it was difficult, and she’s not fully communicating in words only, she also usually nods her head and shakes it, so while she can speak she’s not fully vocal yet. Any tips on that? Because I could spend much more time with her if she and I could talk during the day without me having to sit down and force in smaller sessions.
  17. So i have tried to force a tupla for a while now but nothing has really been happening untill now. I have a tattoo on my left inner arm when a start talking to my tulpa or start to think of him it start to hurt a little and after that it start to tingle. Is this my tulpa or is it just me tryning to mess with myself Thank you for answering if you answer.
  18. I was just wondering, I am new to tulpas and i have a question based on personality forcing. Do i need to be in the wonderland while doing it? I also do not feel very connected to her in sense. Any thing that will help, I have read alot of guides, it is also my 3rd day of forcing so im not really expecting anything special right now! Thank you for your time!
  19. While I've already asked a question here about my tulpa, I have another about forcing my Tulpa. I have the wonderland and all that, and I've visualized a form for her, but I just can't seem to think of anything to do with her to force, and if I recall, that's all forcing is is interacting with my tulpa. So what are some examples of a good activity while forcing?
  20. I am new to this whole thing, I have had experience with this concept before, and when seeing that it was, as one would say, a real thing, I naturally decided to give it a try. Being only a few days into the process, I have a few questions that I would ask. Most importantly, I am confused as to when the Tulpa begins to exist? I have an active imagination anyway and that fact is exacerbated by my relative youth, so I believe that I have a bit of an edge on the process, and I think I have felt certain tremors reminiscent of what is described as the first contact with a Tulpa, though I am open to the idea they are psychosomatic. Does the Tulpa begin to exist simply after the conception of itself comes to be, even if only in an extremely primitive form, or does it take longer for it to even begin to exist. As of now, I have had perhaps one active forcing session, and not a long one at that, though to make up for this I have attempted to speak to the tulpa rather constantly(As you can guess, yes, I like to talk a lot.) I am a little worried I am rambling to myself. I also don't understand how it takes so much time to create a form for most people, after about ten minutes of active forcing I had conceptualized and fleshed out a form for my developing tulpa, and moved on to the typical attempts at infusing it with a pre set bit of personality, and I am worried that the narration is a pointless endevor, and I am messing up my tulpa, and I would hate to mess up my tulpa within the first few days of potential existence. Also, will a devolping Tulpa, if it can hear me, grow annoyed with my constant attempts at narrating?
  21. Good evening, everyone! I started creating my tulpa about two years ago and still haven't seen any progress (what I mean by this is that we haven't hit any of the "traditional" milestones yet, like vocality). I believe that one reason I'm failing so hard at this is that I don't know, and have never really known, what to do during active forcing. I've read a thousand threads about activities to do during forcing, but most of them seem to be geared towards at least partially vocal tulpae. What am I supposed to do when my tulpa and I can't really interact yet? I think that we have managed to achieve a very primitive form of non-verbal communication, meaning that when I'm in a "forcing state", focusing completely on her, I can see her do stuff, but I'm not really sure if it's happening spontaneously or if I'm parroting. Maybe at the beginning my skepticism played a part in slowing us down, but after two years, I've become really open-minded about the whole concept. Here's the thing: despite having never received any hint of her existence (not even the famous head pressures and emotional responses), I've spent two years with her, whatever she is; I've grown attached to her and I don't feel crazy anymore when I talk to "myself". I think that I'm ready (or, as ready as one can be) to accept her into my life; I just don't know what constitutes a good forcing session with a non-vocal tulpa! Maybe I've missed something really simple, so I'd appreciate a really basic, step-by-step guide on what to do in the "prae-vocality" phase. Thanks in advance! :)
  22. I often see people advising that I should parrot/puppet my tulpa to force it better. Wouldn't my tulpa, once sentient, be annoyed that I was essentially impersonating them, and fabricating lies about them? Sorry that I'm dumb :P
  23. Basically, I really want to get my tulpa sentient. I’m still getting started, but I’m stuck on how forcing actually works. I’ve read a lot of guides, but I still find this process confusing. Does the tulpa actually reply themselves, or do I just keep on giving them things to say?
  24. I met the tulpas theme 4 years ago, from that first day I decided to create a tulpa. A few days later I noticed that my tulpa towards things that I did not think or imagine previously, I did not really pay much attention because I did not think that was considered as sentience and I doubted the effectiveness of that method to create tulpas (force). I was like this for four years (during those four years I almost never forced my tulpa, however I thought about her every day and by the way in those four years I spent my time researching other methods to create tulpas, until I came to the conclusion of that hypnosis is the best method totally effective and scientifically proven to create a second personality with hypnosis but the problem is that it is difficult to master self-hypnosis and it is difficult to get to trance.Today I keep investigating other methods but none is As effective as hypnosis, because I still do not master self hypnosis, I decided to force everyone to do it, but I really think that this force does not work, but I still force because I have no other choice. He often does things on his own, but I have never heard his voice and lately I can not feel the essence of my tulpa inside me (From the moment I created it I could feel r its essence but 3 weeks ago I do not feel anything
  25. I will try to make this as quick as possible. It's been a week and a half already since I joined this community (I guess) and I started Forcing early on since my discovery on this site. I normally force around midnight, I force until I fall sleep. Never felt head pressures while forcing or anything like that, the only thing I commonly feel is pressure in my eyes and a little bit of dizziness Im not even sure im forcing the rigth way (I often try to visualize my tulpa and I talk to it about anything that comes to my mind) The first time was relatively calm, And in the second I implemented a blindfold to keep me focused However, the 3rd time I got between scared and excited. I heard another breathing, it was calm and slow, It seem to be directly above me, but there wasn't nothing there. At first I thought that it was maybe early signs of progress, but then I remembered the "often people get results after 1 month" By this moment I already lost all my focus and the breathing had gone away Now every night while forcing the same thing happens again. 4 days ago I heard someone shaking a water bottle inside my room (curious enough, I always sleep with a large water bottle by my bed) But again, nothing to be seen. When I focused on the sound it went away. Last night was the most active night: I laid down in bed and started to force as usual. After some time I heard the calm breathing again, I got scared nuts when I realized that was the same breathing that I heard the first time, it went away. I waited some time and started again (I was completly decided to see if this was early success of my tulpa) It wasn't long until I heard the sound my chair makes when some heavy weight is put into it (something like a slight crackle) And then I got scared again, I threw my blidnfoold at the chair and kept looking at it, nothing to be seen ¿Is this kind of things common? ¿Should I be careful when Forcing? ¿Am I even forcing the right way
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