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Good afternoon to anybody you reads this!

 

So, I have just joined the forums and am ready to post my first thread - a progress report: because clearly you needed another one!

 

(I studied English language, doesn't mean I'm terribly good at it. Expect errors.)

 

So firstly, to put things into perspective here's a little about me:

 

I'm male, 22 years old and I have no intrest or belief in the supernatural. If I can see something, smell it, touch it: It's real. I dont believe in spirits, ghosts, the arcane... at least not as anything more than abstract ideas and metaphors.

 

However, I DO believe that our minds are capable of amazing things.

 

A while back I got intrested in lucid dreaming. Mostly, It was from the point of view of 'Can we lie to our own minds?'. I studied it for a while, tried it and actually had moderate sucess. Turns out we can lie to our own minds. I was amazed.

 

A little later I tried self hypnosis: on the grounds that I assumed that it might just work on the same lines as lucid dreaming. Again, i was amazed that it worked: I could hypnotise myself (a little) and even tried it on my partner, much to her suprise.

 

I had heard of Tulpa (Tulpae? I'll check the plural at some point, cant recall it at the moment.) before but dismissed it as supernatural rot. When It being discussed again not too long ago though, I checked a few links: I was curious.

 

So I found myself here, and reading the forums, and the guides. I thought to myself 'Wow, this might just be the real deal.'

 

Three days ago, I registered for the forums after reading a good number of guides and discussions. I started trying to create a tulpa.

 

So here is my report: I'll update as often as I can but some updates may well be shorter than others.

 

One last thing: I cant remember where I was the first time I heard of a Tulpa, but I can tell you that this time I managed to find my way here from the MLP forums. Yeah, I'm one of those. Deal with it: The way I see things, Tulpa (Tulpae?) are more that skin deep. Thats the whole point, right?

 

So, if you read through the whole wall of text there, congratulations, thanks, and I hope you read something intresting here!

"Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."

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Hi! IM not gonna bug you about being intrested in tulpae because you are a brony (im assuming) and actually wish you luck! I hope that next post you will have an idea for a tulpa (if you dont have one already) anyway good luck with your tulpa!

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There's a difference between skeptical and cynical. I only say this because you seem bitter about it. You'll find many things that seem like they could be metaphysical here, but it's simply symbolism. I'm not one for symbolism, but it has its supporters.

 

Also, don't worry about your post size. Walls of text are encouraged, and your post isn't nearly a wall of text by this forum's standards.


A while back I got intrested in lucid dreaming. Mostly, It was from the point of view of 'Can we lie to our own minds?'. I studied it for a while, tried it and actually had moderate sucess. Turns out we can lie to our own minds. I was amazed.

 

A little later I tried self hypnosis: on the grounds that I assumed that it might just work on the same lines as lucid dreaming. Again, i was amazed that it worked: I could hypnotise myself (a little) and even tried it on my partner, much to her suprise.

 

This sounds like a story. Could you go into more detail?


(Tulpae? I'll check the plural at some point, cant recall it at the moment.)

 

It's "tulpas". I'll just leave these here: (1) (2) (3)


One last note:

Ponis r dum

 

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I wouldn't call myself cynical, the only thing I'd say that I'm bitter about is that people seem to stifle progress with metaphysical ideas. I tried googling some questions about tulpa and just about everything you find is people claiming they are demons that will destroy your mind. It frustrates me.

 

With regards to being a brony, yes, I can say I found the site through that, but I am not only interested because if it. More like... I don't know, is it weird that I'm more open minded because of it? Huh, of course it is :p

 

I'd love to write more but I'm away for the weekend at the moment, spur of the moment thing, and writing this from inside a sleeping bag on a phone that's almost out of power, so I'll have to wait until Sunday. I jumped on the site because while forcing this morning I had something of a breakthrough. I have been struggling with parroting. Or rather, worrying about parroting. When I tried the prism method today, something completely random happened. Before I could even start, she shook her head and dropped the prism onto the ground. This happened four times (i think) before I asked her to stop. The next time, she waited until the feather was on at least before doing it again.

 

All doubt is now lost.

 

Ill do a full post on Sunday night, when I have a computer! Take it easy people.

"Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."

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Yay a new PR! I like reading PRs from when they start. It's fun AND disappointing at the same time!

You're looking (not really looking...) at the king of taking forever doing a 'mancing project, sir.

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Ok, so I'm back with my first real status update. Rather than try to recall day by day, since that would be tedious for anybody to read at best, I'm going to give a running summary in one post. From here on, I'll try to post once a day unless theres nothing to tell.

 

Right, that aside:

 

I am currently managing two hours of active forcing each day, an hour when I wake up and an hour before going to sleep. When possible, I do another half hour midday. At first I really struggled to not fall asleep, so I took the simple option and started to force sitting up rather than laying down. I also try to passive force as much as I can, and while I do tend to forget and end up thinking things to myself rather than directing my thoughts, I'm getting better.

 

I started trying to use a wonderland at first, but for some reason I just cannot focus properly there - its like I can only focus on my Tulpa or the wonderland, not both at once. I'm willing to bet that this will improve with time but for now I'm just using a void inside my head which works a lot better. I'm going to try to build a wonderland later on instead.

 

One of the things that has really helped so far, from Kiahdaj's Absolute Guide to Tulpas, is picturing my Tulpas essence. Of course its all symbolic but I think giving a visual link to the separate thought streams made things a lot easier to sort out in my mind.

 

So I mentioned before about the King of the Valdenrich's Prism. I have tried this before early on but had little luck because I was still having issues picturing my Tulpa. When I tried it again recently, I wasn't expecting much, I honestly thought that she would blink, if anything, just because that was what I was expecting. When she shook her head and the prism fell completely I has kind of stunned. When she kept doing it, and seemingly trolled me when I asked her to stop... Well, I was pretty amazed.

 

I think I understand what people mean by 'alien feelings', I cant hear her yet, but I sometimes get weird feelings in response to questions I ask her. I think at the moment what I 'hear' is my mind trying to put words to these feelings. For example, she seems to have three of them, a strong 'positive' feeling, a 'negative' one and a questioning / confused one. I think these are her, but the words in my head are what I've added myself. I've taken to interpreting them as "Yes", "No" and "Why?", although "Why" could well just be more complex thoughts that I don't know how to understand. I'm sure its not always her and I cant always here them, even when forcing. I'm pretty confident that some of it is her though.

 

One weird thing: I'm pretty sure she doesn't like me drinking beer. I really like beer but I cant even bring myself to drink it now. Over the weekend I opened a can of fosters and took a drink. It tasted great, didn't make me feel ill or anything but I immediately got these 'Negative' feelings that I've learned to associate with her. This was the strongest feeling I've got like this so far.

 

The thing I'm concerned about is parroting, and that some of what I see / feel is probably more my imagination than her. On the other hand though, by stopping worrying about it so much as just assuming its her does seem to have sped up things (this was before the prism incident).

 

I guess lastly, shes deviated. A lot. Form wise, she still has all of the key features I imposed but seems to have taken the opportunity to use this as a loophole of sorts to improve herself and change anything that I never specifically imposed. She also seems a lot more of a troll than the quiet type I had tried to impose: I like it.

 

Flexionsensor, I think that I read your progress report before I registered, it was really interesting (If its the one I'm thinking about, which I'm sure it is because I sat and watched your avatar fall down the stairs for about 5 minutes. I was entertained)

 

Oh, and her name. Well I initially started with "Quartz", it just came to my head when I was associating her 'essence'. It never really stuck: I never got any response from it one way or the other. When I actually pictured her properly though and saw the changes she apparently made to herself I decided it didn't seem right, I threw some suggestions around in my heard and eventually got a 'positive' feeling about "Crystal".

"Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."

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Nice job! It sounds like you're making exponential progress. I'm still in the Early days of Tulpa making as well, and I have learned that it's a process that requires plenty of willpower. Good luck though.

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Cool! Same thing happened with me and the prism. Instead of falling it just floated there.

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Flexionsensor, I think that I read your progress report before I registered, it was really interesting (If its the one I'm thinking about, which I'm sure it is because I sat and watched your avatar fall down the stairs for about 5 minutes. I was entertained)

 

Ah yes, my infamous avatar...

 

And so, he has achieved purported sentience... THIS is what I meant when I said I would be disappointed...

Ach, mein Gott!

Aside from possession, the first thing you need to do is imposition. Why? BECAUSE IT'S COOLER, THAT'S WHY! People need to impose more. Screw possession and switching, imposers are the master race.

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