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Alternative ways for imposition and the Ganzfeld effect


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Hallucinations are actually a lot more common than most people think. Simple things like fasting, sensory deprivation or sleep depravation are some common hallucination triggers.

 

What is the Ganzfeld effect?

Mainly, it is a simple way to create sensory deprivation that is supposed to created complex hallucinations. For anyone who wants to do it, here's how to do it for anyone interested: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/graphics/011109_hacking_your_brain/

I'm not sure how useful this would be in the forcing process though.

 

Complete Darkness

I once spent about an hour in a cave in eastern romania in almost complete and total darkness apart from some candle light. After about a quarter of an hour I started having such complex hallucinations that it was scary. They also seemed to change around other people around, implying they could be controlled.

For some reason, it's sort of different from having your eyes closed. More information on here: http://www.theplainsman.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Darkness-+Silence+Cause+Hallucinations%20&id=4176155

Fasting

Another cause for hallucination is lack of food. But it can take several days to a week for anything seriously significant to happen. Also, lack of food increases your sense of smell dramatically.

 

There are also many other methods like Hypnopompic/Hypnogogic hallucinations, sleep depravation and even pepper

 

It seems to me that the imposition phase is the most problematic one for most people. Making your brain believe it is seeing something that isn't there is really hard to just do out of the blue. But gradually easing the process along this way could prove a lot easier.

Anyone who wants to try any of these methods out is welcome to do so as (apart from fasting) they are not dangerous.

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Whatever the proper term is for being 'just about' asleep, that stage is very helpful. I was in that stage for the second time recently last night and Kat was imposed almost fully for about a minute while we talked. Eventually she rolled over to go to sleep and I immediately fell asleep also.

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I've been trying to use dreams to the same effect. Everyone hallucinates every night in dreams, so why not make use of that to help imposition?

 

The thing is, the only way to control dreams is through lucid dreaming. I either have to wait until Leafy happens to show up in a dream or until I have my next stable lucid dream.

 

"I think the Ganzfeld effect isn't the best way to practice imposition, though. From my understanding, the Ganzfeld effect basically simulates a dream, except you're closer to being awake. Once you realize that you're hallucinating, I think you would just kind of pop right out, so it really wouldn't allow you to let your tulpa into the hallucination. Maybe if your tulpa went into the hallucination without you noticing it could be possible, but then again, I don't know if it would be reliable. Try it and see what happens, I guess. I would love to be proven wrong, because if it works it seems pretty convenient."

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Whatever the proper term is for being 'just about' asleep, that stage is very helpful. I was in that stage for the second time recently last night and Kat was imposed almost fully for about a minute while we talked. Eventually she rolled over to go to sleep and I immediately fell asleep also.

 

That's probably because our brains are closer to theta brain waves when we've just woken up. People are more likely to hallucinate and have other such experiences in that state. So, i guess early in the morning is probably the best time for imposition

 

I've been trying to use dreams to the same effect. Everyone hallucinates every night in dreams, so why not make use of that to help imposition?

 

The thing is, the only way to control dreams is through lucid dreaming. I either have to wait until Leafy happens to show up in a dream or until I have my next stable lucid dream.

 

"I think the Ganzfeld effect isn't the best way to practice imposition, though. From my understanding, the Ganzfeld effect basically simulates a dream, except you're closer to being awake. Once you realize that you're hallucinating, I think you would just kind of pop right out, so it really wouldn't allow you to let your tulpa into the hallucination. Maybe if your tulpa went into the hallucination without you noticing it could be possible, but then again, I don't know if it would be reliable. Try it and see what happens, I guess. I would love to be proven wrong, because if it works it seems pretty convenient."

 

You don't actually need to wait until your next lucid dream, you can try to induce one. Try put some DILD or WILD. PM me if you want some help, I'm pretty knowledgeable in the subject.

Unfortunately I won't be able to try out the Ganzfeld effect very soon, (two weeks or so from now) until I get back from vacation. (The whole process is pretty creepy, so I wouldn't like a bunch of people to think I'm a weirdo.)

This post gave me an ideea though. To use some of thee mnemonic techniques used for lucid dreaming like "mantras" (not yoga mantras) to ease the general process along.


Mnemonic messages

Wikipedia defines mnemonic as such: "A mnemonic or mnemonic device, is any learning technique that aids information retention. Mnemonics aim to translate information into a form that the human brain can retain better than its original form" People used mnemonic messages or mantras (how they called them on DV) to induce lucid dreams. But they can probably be used for forcing too, especially for people having doubts.

So what you basically do is you create a simple sentence like "My tulpa is real", "I can see my tulpa.", "I can hear my tulpa." and you repeat it over and over again in your head whenever you can. The purpose of this is to teach your brain in terms it can understand that something is true. Obviously this isn't a creation method, but rather an augmentation of the others.

Also, stuff like "I want a tulpa", "I will have a tulpa.", "My tulpa will become real." probably won't work. It has to be mostly first person, singular and at the present time. That's because the unconscious mind doesn't understand time very well.

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I spent 16 hours in the back of a truck after a vacation, constantly hearing the road and the engine, it set off hypnagogic imagery while i was fully aware and conscious, than when I got home and laid in bed I got a bunch of different audio hallucinations, I asked my tulpa if she could be in one of those and I think we was but it was hard to tell. It was trippy

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I can tell you that doing imposition in a dark room is very effective, but I don't really do it in complete darkness because hey, makes no sense for me to be able to see someone in absolute darkness. But a dark room? Yeah, I should be able to see them. You can get some really solid silhouettes going on, easier probably because there's no colors, but that probably also means you can't get full imposition going on with just doing it in a dark room. If you try seeing them in the lighting you're given (which isn't much) instead of imagining the tupper like they're in full light, that is. I dunno.

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I can tell you that doing imposition in a dark room is very effective, but I don't really do it in complete darkness because hey, makes no sense for me to be able to see someone in absolute darkness. But a dark room? Yeah, I should be able to see them. You can get some really solid silhouettes going on, easier probably because there's no colors, but that probably also means you can't get full imposition going on with just doing it in a dark room. If you try seeing them in the lighting you're given (which isn't much) instead of imagining the tupper like they're in full light, that is. I dunno.

 

I wasn't saying that people should do it only in darkness. Just that it's a good place to start. To try seeing them in the darkness first and then move up to full light conditions. It seems to me like a better way to do it than starting in full light. Thanks for the input though.

 

I spent 16 hours in the back of a truck after a vacation, constantly hearing the road and the engine, it set off hypnagogic imagery while i was fully aware and conscious, than when I got home and laid in bed I got a bunch of different audio hallucinations, I asked my tulpa if she could be in one of those and I think we was but it was hard to tell. It was trippy

 

Were you able to manipulate the imagery easely? It was the same for me.

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That wasn't what I said either but okay.

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That wasn't what I said either but okay.

Well, sorry then.

 

Moving on, lucid dreams are also a really great enviroment for imposition as well. Another person is currently trying that with some very good results. I didn't include this at first due to the relatively small number of people who can have lucid dreams regularly.

This is also probably the best way to do everything pre-imposition, I think.

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