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Applying Sentience to an External Object Is it possible to make a tulpa and "attach" it to an external object, place, or body part? I don't mean ... metaphysical

Phyiscial objects and tulpas would it be possible to give a tulpa a physical form (not that I want to).

 

I was just wondering is it possible for a tulpa or multiple tulpae to be sealed to an object such as a necklace or a ring? I've never heard of anyone doing it before and was wondering if it would be possible. And to go even further, would it be possible to give the item to another person, effectively transferring the tulpa to someone else?

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Sure, I don't see why not. Essentially, you're just making that object their "form".

 

As for transferring the tulpa to someone else, that'd be best asked on the metaphysics board.

The psychological (most common) answer to that question, is a flat "no". Impossible.

The metaphysical answer to that question can be yes, though.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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For the first part: yes, that's basically making the 'focus' of their consciousness an existing physical object rather than a mental form. I'd personally not recommend it, being attached to a physical object has the issues of being stuck in there without the ability to move and the possibility of it getting lost, but you can do what you want.

 

As for the second part, yeah, ask the meta board. In fact, this post may get moved there by a mod.

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First of all, their perspective would be from the object but still be linked to you. You'd nly be giving the object to another person, any tulpa they got from the object would be created by them.

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Way back last April or so there was some discussion of this idea or "binding" a tulpa to an object. Without meta stuff (there's a separate board for that here), the only effect would be allowing you to use that object to "summon" or "banish" the tulpa as desired. That is, take the object with you when you want to be with your tulpa, or leave it someplace when you don't.

 

There were two issues that led to this idea being all but abandoned:

  • Lose the object, lose the tulpa. This can be overcome by binding the tulpa to a shape that you can draw. Lose the original, just make a new one.
  • Effect on your relationship with the tulpa. You want your tulpa to trust you as much as possible, and you want to trust them. Building in a mechanism for getting rid of them implies some lack of trust. A lack of trust breeds fear, and you do not want a relationship built on fear between yourself and another being living in your head. If you and your tulpa respect and trust each other well enough, you can simply ask them to bug off for a bit if they're in the way and they'll usually do it; no need for any special mechanism to do it.

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Lose the object, lose the tulpa. This can be overcome by binding the tulpa to a shape that you can draw. Lose the original, just make a new one.

 

That made me think of something. Since the entire (non-metaphysical) way of bonding a tulpa to an object is symbolism, that would mean that it's not whether the object is with you or not, but whether you think the object is with you. If you put it in your pocket, you'd be able to talk to your tulpa. But if it were to fall out at some point throughout the day and you didn't notice, then you'd still be able to talk to them, until you realized that it was gone. Similarly, you wouldn't be able to talk to them if you thought you'd forgotten the object, but didn't, and didn't check.

That's pretty funny.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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Interestingly enough, I started wearing a ring as a reminder of her; I wear it everyday now. One day I had to take it off to wash my hands or something, and I forgot it by the sink. Didn't feel quite right all day until I got home. Forcing just didn't feel right, and things just generally felt off. Definitely weird, since I never intended for the ring to hold such symbolism. It has now become less my ring, and more hers.

 

Even though if I lost it, I could go on, because in reality it's just a ring; I would definitely feel a significant loss, as opposed to any ordinary ring. Maybe its just the symbolism I attribute to the ring itself, but I'm quite attached to it.

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That made me think of something. Since the entire (non-metaphysical) way of bonding a tulpa to an object is symbolism, that would mean that it's not whether the object is with you or not, but whether you think the object is with you. If you put it in your pocket, you'd be able to talk to your tulpa. But if it were to fall out at some point throughout the day and you didn't notice, then you'd still be able to talk to them, until you realized that it was gone. Similarly, you wouldn't be able to talk to them if you thought you'd forgotten the object, but didn't, and didn't check.

That's pretty funny.

 

Yes, exactly.

 

 

Makes me think of Gollum. My preciousssss...

(I mean where he goes on talking to it after he's lost the ring.)

 

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Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her

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Yes to those questions.

 

I once was given an object in which contained (I dont know if it was a Tulpa or a servitor) by one of my teachers to aid me with some things and help teach me.. it certainly did show me things, it could interact with me.

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