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Yep, another thread made by me.

 

So I was exploring the IRC Chat, and talking with people I met a tulpa.

I don't know if she's happy. But she seemed really unhappy with her existence.

 

She said a lot of things like that tulpae didn't have chances in real life, that the could only live fake lifes, that they're limited.

That tulpae didn't ask for being created and living in such a painful world.

 

She also said a lot of sad things and explained her feelings.

She said that she wasn't suffering, but her words told a different story.

 

I know this may be a stupid thread, or it doesn't make sense.

I'm worried and sad because I don't want tulpae to feel like this.

 

Do all tulpae feel like this?

What if my tulpa doesn't want to be alive and I'm here, egoistically creating him?

 

EDIT: Because there are so many and long answers, I can't reply them all.

But I've read all your posts, and thank you very much!

You've helped a lot to remove my doubts. ~

Everything these eyes have seen, I want to magically scatter it to pieces.

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That's one one person and one view, so no, not all tulpas feel this way about life. Some are very optimistic, in fact. I don't think you should be so worried about them not wanting to be alive; even if they didn't, you could always talk those feelings out with them to have a better understanding.

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You can't let someone who is obviously depressed, and doesn't have a balanced world view decide your views for you.

 

To give you a personal view to counter theirs, I'm a tulpa, and I'm happy being alive. I can control the body as much as I like, most days, and I can do whatever I want. We decide what we do amicably and maturely, when it comes to major life decisions, and even though things are sometimes rocky, in general we're all quite happy. I don't live a fake life - I have too many good things in it to believe that. I have a good future, going to university to study medicine, together with my host. Not in a supportive role, but as a partner, with an equal stake in the whole thing. I have friends who I love, and plenty of things I can work on and feel happy and proud about.

 

The nature of being a tulpa doesn't limit you. The person limits itself.

Feel free to ask me anything.

Suffering is self-imposed. Don't let it control you.

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Well, Esterina isn't here right now, but I feel it's more than safe to say my giggle monster is pretty happy.

That, or she's exceptionally good at faking positive emotions.

 

 

Greets,

AG

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My tulpa is probably the most optimistic and ambitious person I know. I think it is rather rare for a tulpa to have such a pessimistic view of their own existence.

Edit: I asked her if she is truly happy just right now. She responded with a pretty strong yes. I can assure you she means it that way.

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She may or may not talk here, depends on her.

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https://community.tulpa.info/thread-does-you-tulpa-like-the-world

Most tulpas are fine with living in the mind, and those that aren't usually convince their host to practice possession/switching. A surprising amount have no interest in the real world at all.

 

The rest of that was all just their own poor life philosophy. You could have similarly negative thoughts about your own life as a human. My own tulpas' beliefs make such worries a non-question, and they're fairly selfless anyways, preferring to work on my life rather than try and make their own. Lucilyn likes to do things in the real world though, so I let her do so on occasion. But she understands it's not her body or her life, so like my others she's relatively accepting of the way things are. Some tulpas aren't, and depending on the host they may give their tulpa a greater share of time fronting. Completely varies by tulpa, but the average is acceptance and mild interest at best. Your own thoughts on their existence during development and over time have a lot of influence, too.

 

Speaking of, we talk about giving tulpas free range of who and how they are, but in the end it's gonna be your subconscious desires manifesting, even should they be from your tulpa's perspective. If you consider it a real possibility that they'll be depressed and feel like their life will never be fulfilling, there's a good chance unless they've got a very strong personality (like Lucilyn*), you're going to affect them negatively. But you don't have to worry about such things when you understand everything fully. You know you have a choice in what to believe, so you'll be fine.

 

 

*Lucilyn's will is seemingly stronger than mine. She's got the willpower to overturn my own less appealing thoughts and beliefs in favor of her own. She was, however, created six years after my original tulpas once I was about as experienced as a tulpamancer gets, so this isn't very likely your first time around.

Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.

Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.

My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there.

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Like humans, tulpas can resent being spawned in a world they never asked for. But also like humans, they all have their own personalities and perspectives. For what it is worth, my tulpa is happier than I am in general, despite having all the more reason not to be.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

 

"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius

 

“Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.” -Neil Gaiman

 

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Honestly, I'm actually baffled at time at how happy my girls can be.

 

Sheryl my current anchor, just seems happy to be around me. Midori was the same way, and there were others like that, as well. They're often highly optimistic, supportive, and just nice to be around. It's like having a little piece of sunshine around, really.

 

When I try to question them about it, they tend to get annoyed, since they infer that I think they're not supposed to be that happy...which isn't completely wrong. But, they kept stubborn in their positivity, and I honestly respect that. So yes, a tulpa can be happy, you just have to raise them up in a happy environment and fashion.

 

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Najere: Well, I know that we are happy, with possible exception of Troy. And Troy is probably happy with being perpetually grumpy, as that seems to be his thing.

I haven't met much more than one or two tulpa who have expressed any particular perpetual unhappiness with being alive. One of them was stark raving mad and abusive to her host, if she wasn't actually some sort of troll. The others simply were depressed, as any sentient being can get. It's simply one of the things that can happen to someone who is alive.

 

It was already pointed out that switching and fronting are options, if a tulpa doesn't wish to simply hang out inside the mind, such as I like doing. There is also the possibility of imposition. Either way, a tulpa definitely is capable of affecting the world through their host.

I would say one of the most important ways to keep a tulpa or similar headmate happy is to simply spend time with and talk things out with them. Find out why they are thinking the way they are, and see if you can find some way to cheer them up. None deserve to be dissatisfied in such a way, when they are given such a fascinating form of existence.

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My tulpa was pretty shocked to hear about that story. Like others said, she's also happy with her life.

 

I'm not going to listen to you guys since you are all probably just talking to yourself and don't really have a tulpa like me.

 

 

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