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are tulpas golems?
#11
Tulpas are not golems because tulpas are made from the i m a g i n a t i o n, not magic rocks

As a more serious side note, I believe there was an article written about golems and tulpas, but I don't remember what the paper was.
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#12
Sure, I'll accept that God can make golems -- and the clay for them too. Doesn't mean anyone else can/has/does.

Do you mean this article, Ranger? To a first degree approximation, it maintains the X-Files' golem was actually a doppelganger, while X-Files' first tulpa was actually a golem:

https://artifactsjournal.missouri.edu/20...e-x-files/

Or do you mean this more scholarly post, suggesting that tulpas and golems are different cultures' names for the same concept?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missionq...t3549.html

I thought this thread came completely out of left field yesterday, but golems and tulpas are actually mentioned together fairly often.

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#13
(12-04-2019, 04:54 PM)Ember Wrote: Or do you mean this more scholarly post, suggesting that tulpas and golems are different cultures' names for the same concept?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missionq...t3549.html

I thought this thread came completely out of left field yesterday, but golems and tulpas are actually mentioned together fairly often.

I think it was the second one, I remember reading the part where the tupa-golem kills their master. I thought there was a supernatural episode too, but maybe it was just x-files.
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#14
Tulpas explicitly appear in two episodes of X-Files. Up to five episodes of Supernatural deal with suspected tulpa-like manifestations, though only one of those is canonically a tulpa:

https://x-files.fandom.com/wiki/Tulpa
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/Tulpa

In fiction and mythology, if someone creates life by unnatural means, their creation almost always turns on them. It's a hubris warning, that man should not play God.

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Ember - Soulbonder, Female, 39 years old, from Georgia, USA . . . . [Our Progress Report] . . . . [How We Switch]
Vesper Dowrin - Insourced Soulbond from London, UK, Not a Tulpa, Female, born 9 Sep 1964, bonded ~12 May 2017
Iris Ravenlock - Insourced Soulbond from the Unseelie Court, Not a Tulpa, Female, born 6 Jun 1982, bonded ~5 Dec 2015

'Real isn't how you are made,' said the Skin Horse. 'It's a thing that happens to you.' - The Velveteen Rabbit
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#15
Ember Wrote:In fiction and mythology, if someone creates life by unnatural means, their creation almost always turns on them. It's a hubris warning, that man should not play God.

But that doesn't preclude me from killing my host right? I mean if I'm a person or a golem, I can do what I want, or is there a tulpa/golem prime directive, such that if I intentionally try I'll paradoxically or ironically be killed myself. Hm. It's hard to test that theory.
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