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Hey everyone, as the title says I'm curious if a tulpa can be created from a dream. As a little backstory, I started to create my tulpa a  little over a week ago and I've been narrating as much as I could during the day each day, and active forcing for atleast an hour each day. Last Saturday I started the pre-creation/greeting stage that I saw a guide detail, where you just introduce yourself to your tulpa and giving some basic personality details. By the end of the session I was feeling some small head pressures in the front of my head. From then on I started to narrate and work on personality for a couple days. After that I worked on visualization for about a day before I started trying to imagine the form of my tulpa was moving. Shortly after parroting my tulpa a bit to help them move, I noticed that they started to move in my mindscape on their own and I could feel her presence when she walked close to me (kind of like how you can sort of feel people close to you when they're physically close.

 

I also created a wonderland around this time that was pretty simple, just some grass and trees. At one point after creating it, when i tried to visualize the wonderland I noticed that I seemed to be in a house, which I can only assume that my tulpa created. As of today she seems to be somewhat vocal. Now of course this seems to all be moving a little too fast, so I have my doubts about my tulpa's sentience and somewhat thinking that it's all parroted (though I'm trying to keep as open of a mind as I can to it somehow being my tulpa). And as for how this relates to my question:

 

A few years ago I had a very vivid dream that seem quite real and it spanned what felt like a few years (that is, it felt like I "lived" in the dream for a few years). I of course didn't live out every single day, but skipped around to different days of the year. In this dream I spent basically exclusively all my time with one single person that wasn't anyone that I knew in real life. I know some people have worked on tulpas in lucid dreams but this wasn't a lucid dream for me as I didn't know it was a dream until after it was over, and I had never heard of tulpas at the time. Once I woke up the dream was on my mind for atleast the next few days or so, with my daydreaming parts that I could remember. Would it be possible that I unknowingly started to create a tulpa at this time? I know that some people who had started a tulpa and gave up were able to like "awaken" the original tulpa when they started forcing again, so I was wondering if this could be something that's happening to me and could explain the seemingly very fast progression. I should also say that the form I ended up deciding on for my tulpa is close to the same as the person that I dreamed of.

 

This whole thing ended up being a lot longer then I expected, so thanks for reading through it all.

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Lumi had a dream a loooong time ago of something kinda similar, he spent a whole night's worth of dreams looking for a friend who didn't actually exist going between dreams (at one point they were even in a black void with like pieces of dreams like broken glass everywhere), and at the end they were sitting together watching a sunset when Lumi started waking up, and also realized she didn't exist. But he still felt like she did and didn't want to lose her, so he hugged her as he woke up. And someone that looked like her was in another dream once too, as a boss from a game (the games we're from). He ended up making her a "servi-tulpa" as we'd eventually call her, a tulpa-like servitor that helps us do things with our mind, like remember dreams or come up with answers to important life stuff.

 

But I think she was only based on the character he knew from the dreams, as yours would be, just a basis for a tulpa but not the tulpa themselves. Not yet at least, a dream character (or dream guide) isn't automatically a tulpa, but they probably can be. So you can definitely make a character from a dream into a tulpa yes, but until you do they're not inherently more than a character you dreamed of. But one you know super well and were close to certainly makes a good candidate for a tulpa!

Hi, I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points.

I think being happy and having fun makes life worth living, so spreading happiness is my number one goal!

Talk to us? https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Tulpas from dreams are usually called walk-ins and it happens all the time.

 

Daydreams and lucid dreams are far more common, and so are people simply appearing out of thin air. But it still happens.

 

You have prior experience? You get tulpas faster if you have that.

 

Oh, there's an easy way to check the parroting that sometimes works. Are you putting words in her mouth for some reason?

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Tulpas from dreams are usually called walk-ins and it happens all the time.

 

Daydreams and lucid dreams are far more common, and so are people simply appearing out of thin air. But it still happens.

 

You have prior experience? You get tulpas faster if you have that.

 

Oh, there's an easy way to check the parroting that sometimes works. Are you putting words in her mouth for some reason?

 

No this is the first tulpa that I've ever created, atleast I don't remember a tulpa from any time in the past or even an imaginary friend from when I was younger.

 

Do you mean purposefully? I have a small amount to try to help her get a distinct voice so it won't be so easily confused with mine, but other times when she's talked I've tried to keep my mind clear and not assume answers and even try to push out any thoughts that happen, but I still find myself thinking of what she's going to say a split second before I feel it's said. There has been another method I used involving chills. I noticed that (seemingly) she can give me chills, or a tingling feeling thats somewhat similar to it along my spine, so I used to to ask questions like if I had been parroting her the whole time, and got an answer that went with no. The problem with it is having doubt but trying to keep an open mind like with her voice, because right before I get the sensation I have the answer pop into my head a split second before the sensation actually happened.

 

Edit: Has there ever been a report of a walk-in for someone that had never created a tulpa before? I've seen a few threads on walk-in's but they seem to only ever happen in a system that's already established.

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Experience does not mean you have a tulpa. It includes working on a tulpa, and also anything with altered states of consciousness.

 

Yes, but for what reason would you put words in her mouth now? Why does it seem strange to hear your thoughts before you speak them?

 

Oh yeah, walk-ins happen all the time to people outside of tulpamancy. Most cases don't involve tulpas.

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Experience does not mean you have a tulpa. It includes working on a tulpa, and also anything with altered states of consciousness.

 

Yes, but for what reason would you put words in her mouth now? Why does it seem strange to hear your thoughts before you speak them?

 

Oh yeah, walk-ins happen all the time to people outside of tulpamancy. Most cases don't involve tulpas.

 

In that case I have had a small bit of experience, I practiced meditation for a couple weeks in the past and I can end up daydreaming quite often sometimes.

 

I can't really think of a reason as to why I would be parroting her still. I of course want her to talk as soon as she can, and for that reason I feel somewhat worried that I'm accidentally parroting her for that reason. And for that reason it seems strange to hear the thoughts before they get spoken, because it feels like I let a thought get through and, because I want her to talk, that I just parrot her without meaning to. Other then that though, I don't have a reason that I would be parroting her.

 

If you say that most walk-ins outside of tulpamancy don't involve tulpas, would that mean my chances of having had a "dormant" tulpa that I woke up slim?

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Oh yeah, walk-ins happen all the time to people outside of tulpamancy. Most cases don't involve tulpas.

 

I don't get this, what do you mean they don't involve tulpas? half the time the difference in tulpa and soulbond (which "walk-ins" usually are) is just terminology

 

but yeah plenty of peoples' first tulpas/soulbonds were "walk-ins", it's the people that find tulpa.info/etc. and try to create a tulpa on purpose that don't get'em. Other people (and there are tons) are a lot more likely to have had one just kinda show up than to have specifically tried to make them, though I'd say most are somewhere in between

Hi, I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points.

I think being happy and having fun makes life worth living, so spreading happiness is my number one goal!

Talk to us? https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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definition:

Walk-in -A person in a multiple system which came from outside the body. Often otherkin in a system are walk-ins.

 

The definition of walk-in can be a little vague and hazy. People have used "walk-in" to mean channelled spirits, people you were in past lives, inhabitants of other worlds, soulbonds, or fictives, or introjects, angels who come in to help, or just visitors -- people who show up briefly in your group and then leave, or come and go. As with possession and fictives, some multiples believe in the reality of these things and others do not. The only standard accepted definition is that the walk-in is not a split or aspect from a "main personality". More about the history and background on walk-ins here. (Spiritualism, popularized by Ruth Montgomery, late 70s)

Definitions may vary from community to community.

 

No, you can end up forcing a thoughform that existed previously and not realise it.

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I'm a bit confused then, the definition seems to imply that a walk-in isn't ever a tulpa since it says "The only standard accepted definition is that the walk-in is not a split or aspect from a "main personality"" and a tulpa is considered to be a consciousness parallel to your own (and I take that to mean a split from the main personality), but you said that tulpas from dreams are considered walk-ins.

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Tulpas are not usually seen as splits or aspects. This type of tulpa is shard seeded. Not common in the tulpamancy community itself. Rather, a tulpa is seen as an entirely new consciousness.

 

Also, it is okay to have doubts about tulpas or your tulpa. I don't think it actually does any harm. Just be careful to not accidentally suppress your tulpa in an effort to find out if you are parroting.

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