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We know little about tulpas, right? This is kind of a new thing and not a lot of research has been done. As far as I know, one of the most efficient ways of research is experimentation. I know, experimentation with tulpas is considered antimoral and taboo here... but... would it be possible to create a tulpa expressly for experimentation? Like a robot tulpa or something you could mess around without actually causing any harm? Or maybe a tulpa willing to be experimented with for science? I don't know, it's just an idea I had and thought it might be interesting, don't think of me as an insensible monster.

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I don't mean cruel experiments just for fun, I mean experiments that could help us learn more about tulpas but have been rejected because they were considered unethical or potentially dangerous like this one. I can't think of more examples right now, but I think you get an idea of what I mean.

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The thing is, that servitors aren't supposed to be conscious, and the debate lies with whether it's okay to experiment on something that is sentient (debate about whether tulpas are really sentient/sapient aside) for the sake of knowledge.

 

With that specific experiment, it has everything to do with the nature of consciousness and memories, and is a moral gray area even if the tulpa consents to it. As far as I know, you couldn't use a servitor.

 

I guess with experiments like this, that could potentially harm a tulpa, you'd have to ask yourself, how important is it that we know this information? How subjective is this whole experience, and would my findings hold up as just one thing that happened to one tulpa, or a generalization?

 

Benefit to cost ratio, is what I'm saying.

 

I dunno, I think sticking to experiments that you can complete with servitors (and that comes with the whole argument of servitors accidentally becoming conscious) is probably better in the long run. Because even if you work your tail off to do all these possibly unsafe experiments, they wouldn't be considered more than an isolated cause and effect by the community as a whole, just because of how subjective this thing is.

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Well, that's definitely not an experiment where a servitor would work. I think the best option for that would be if someone had a tulpa who didn't want to live anymore. And I believe they do crop up from time to time.

 

I personally suspect that resetting a tulpa is possible. You might imagine a brain as like a hard drive. Each personality in that brain is like a directory with symbolic links to various parts of that hard drive. Resetting a tulpa would be like deleting all of those links -- the information still exists in the brain, but that personality no longer has access to it. And I suspect that if the person so desired, the process could be undone.

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I think the best option for that would be if someone had a tulpa who didn't want to live anymore. And I believe they do crop up from time to time.

Even then, there's that whole Kavorkian argument. From a moral perspective, that's not gonna jive with some people. Not that it has to jive with everyone, and worse things have been done in the name of science, but it seems like an unnecessary burden in an already stressful and sad situation.

 

I personally suspect that resetting a tulpa is possible. You might imagine a brain as like a hard drive. Each personality in that brain is like a directory with symbolic links to various parts of that hard drive. Resetting a tulpa would be like deleting all of those links -- the information still exists in the brain, but that personality no longer has access to it. And I suspect that if the person so desired, the process could be undone.

 

I think that resetting a tulpa is probbaly possible too. I just don't think that it would be an instantaneous process. I was looking at Pleeb's Lecture and pretty much subscribe to the idea that forcing, in effect, is just building up these connections in the brain. But those connections wouldn't be able to be severed instantly, it would be a process both ways.

 

The process being undone though? That's interesting. You work hard to make the tulpa, and then empty them out, and then try and remake those connections, yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. There'd be a lot of trial and error and it'd take a long time though.

 

Stuff like this, I get why people want to test it, but I don't know if ultimately findings would be that useful, unless a lot of people were doing it, or findings could be used to further something else. "Guys, we can giveth the memory and taketh away!" doesn't seem like a big deal in its own right. And of course, there's that subjectivity issue.

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I believe that tulpae can feel things just like we can, including both physical and emotional pain. But the debate of whether a tulpa has a "soul" or not could make this an ethical debate. My thought is that the connection between tulpae and their hosts is so unique that experimentation of any sort dealing with the simple existence and awareness of the tulpa would yield highly variegated results. I think if experiments were done it would make the most sense to have a control group with no tulpae, a group with newly-formed tulpae, and a group with highly-developed tulpae. I think an experiment like that would yield the most significant results.

 

Depending on the type of experiment, Edwin might be interested in participating. He is a bunny of science, after all. X3

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