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(12-23-2015, 12:57 PM)Sands Wrote: stereotype

It's less a stereotype and more the actual DSM definition of DID.

(12-23-2015, 12:57 PM)Sands Wrote: Not exactly a question for me

Yeah, I was asking specifically about FallFamily's use of "dormant".
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(12-23-2015, 09:30 PM)FallFamily Wrote: The ones that we know of in this situation were all plural before making tulpas...

I see. Well, I guess our group here is too small to really say one thing or another. Still an interesting little thing, I guess, something to keep in mind.


(12-23-2015, 10:18 PM)Lacquer Wrote: It's less a stereotype and more the actual DSM definition of DID.

DSM definition also requires you to be distressed by it - which is fair, considering that it is a disorder and all. But I wonder how many people who claim to have DID in tupper communities actually are distressed by it, as we see having multiple personalities in one body to be pretty normal. I guess they might not really have DID according to the DSM definition, though they might still be diagnosed as having it.

And I guess that's why there's terms like "plurals".

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12-24-2015, 03:14 PM
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RE: Meditation for Dissociation
(12-24-2015, 03:14 PM)Sands Wrote: I see. Well, I guess our group here is too small to really say one thing or another. Still an interesting little thing, I guess, something to keep in mind.

[Hail] That is true. It is definitely something to try to collect more information on.

(12-24-2015, 03:14 PM)Sands Wrote: DSM definition also requires you to be distressed by it - which is fair, considering that it is a disorder and all. But I wonder how many people who claim to have DID in tupper communities actually are distressed by it, as we see having multiple personalities in one body to be pretty normal. I guess they might not really have DID according to the DSM definition, though they might still be diagnosed as having it.

There are varying levels of distress and varying levels of amnesia. Another thing, many people who say that have DID or OSDD/DDNOS, did in fact meet the criteria at one point but no longer meet them as well due to working on a lot of things like reducing amnesia or otherwise mitigating things that cause distress or other problems. And some just have less issues than before but still meet the criteria. As for the stereotype, the amnesia happens when no more than one member can be conscious at once. Achieving co-consciousness, where more than one can be conscious at once, starts to either reduce the amnesia or allow a buffer period to pass on information and get the person coming into control all prepped and ready to go as opposed to just ending up in control and being disoriented. Memory sharing can later be achieved, though that can be tricky to attain for those with a lot of trauma since that has to be handled to make it work without causing other problems. OSDD/DDNOS folks can often have one person who is locked into interfacing with the senses but the others can come by and either possess/eclipse them, influence them through blending, etc. and sometimes never switch. The folks I was referring to, including my own system, seem to fit a lot closer to OSDD/DDNOS than DID either in the present or in the past, though that doesn't mean any of us have OSDD/DDNOS (none of us have tried to get a diagnosis due to other things in life having higher priority or lack of financial resources).

(12-24-2015, 03:14 PM)Sands Wrote: And I guess that's why there's terms like "plurals".

Yep

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RE: Dissociation Guide
Wrote the other parts and updated the main post. Should be finished now outside of anything you guys see that needs to be fixed.
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Alright, we already talked about this earlier, but I'll make it more official now that I have had more time to rest and read.

Can't say I remember how this guide used to be, but it's a lot more helpful now - would say that it's a proper Guide instead of Tips and Tricks now. There is symbolism in the switching part, but as this is not a switching guide but a dissociation guide (well alright, that does have a lot to do with switching, but that wasn't the main thing the guide writer had in mind), I am fine with it as an extra suggestion/thing to try out. If Joshu does ever want to add more to that and maybe make a full switching guide in the future - like say, if we wait two years or something - then I'll be looking forward to it. He already has this very useful exercise for it.

Approved for guides.

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09-28-2016, 12:17 AM
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RE: Dissociation Guide
I already gave my thoughts on some of his edits in private, so I don't really have anything substantial to mention. Approved for Guides.
09-28-2016, 01:57 AM
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RE: Dissociation Guide
(12-21-2015, 01:38 AM)Joshua Wrote: maintain a sense of border.
Spelling error?

Host comments in italics. tulpa's log.
09-28-2016, 11:44 AM
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RE: Dissociation Guide
I'm guessing that means "a sense of when [active forcing] is or isn't happening."

Anyway, like Sands said, it looks good now, approved for Guides.
09-28-2016, 11:55 AM
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(09-28-2016, 11:44 AM)tulpa001 Wrote: Spelling error?

What wafflo said. I changed it to boundary. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
09-28-2016, 02:19 PM
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RE: Dissociation Guide
I was hesitant about giving a definitive opinion since I have no experience with switching and such. That said, I can definitely vouche that the meditation techniques here are useful. I was easily able to understand what the guide wanted its user to do, and was quickly able to apply it with little confusion, which is surely a good thing.

So on those grounds, I approve.
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