PolitenessMan May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 So I started working on my tulpa using traditional methods, and while I can't say that they don't work, I found in time that I couldn't get much time in my day to day life to meditate, maybe half an hour a day tops. I could barely visualize even a basic wonderland, and I felt it would take tons of work just to get to the point where I could actually make progress. At first I thought that I'd have to give up on the idea of having a tulpa, but one night, after having far, far too much to drink I found myself sitting on my couch and visualizing my wonderland not only much easier and clearer than normal, but without even trying. In time, I also found myself visualizing while at work through daydreams, and noticed that I was better at doing tulpaforcing doing that than I ever was through meditation. In just a week and a half of day dream forcing, I already managed to start getting emotional responses and notice my tulpa changing my wonderland's features. Now, while it might be a fluke, but I thought maybe there was something to trying to visualize while daydreaming, and while crawling the web I stumbled upon an interesting article: http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2009/06/daydreaming_and_booze.php Basically, it talks about how both of my primary methods of forcing are actually linked, and how it's closer to how a person's brain works at a baseline level. I don't know if anything will come of it, but I'll continue going about things in this way and I may have more to say later. I more or less am curious as to if anyone else used this combo at all, and their levels of success. TLDR; booze and daydreams might help you communicate with your subconscious more directly. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Both cause less activity within the conscious mind, and thus we have a case of better communication with less control, like when one falls asleep while tulpaforcing. You could potentially have a good line of communication, but much less control over what one wants their subconscious to do/change. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulpatalk May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 As it has been stated, everything "tulpa" is subjective. This might just be the perfect thing for you, and help you along the way. [Note: Opinions] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Quite possibly. Whatever can get you into a clear state of mind, I suppose. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupi May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Daydreaming is basically how I've been doing it all along. I'm not that good at meditation, but I can relax and get into a sustained state where I can visualize pretty easily and not get antsy. It appears to mimic sleep in some way, since I usually feel refreshed when I finish. I've tried to force on 1 or 2 beers, and so far it's done nothing but hinder me. I expected it to help somewhat because it puts me in a more sleeplike state but not actually falling asleep, but instead I end up happily laying there with *nothing* on my mind. Already had 2 Guinnesses tonight. Think I might get out the whiskey and report what happens. Drinking for science FTW. Lyra: human female, ~17 Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Anon May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 I think one of the main guides even says meditation isn't necessary, so your methods aren't too unorthodox Name: Lyra Form: http://i.imgur.com/JjMxK.jpg Sentience: Emotional responses, occasional brief vocalization Currently doing: Personality & narration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Actually daydreaming is the main way I did it, I just never really mentioned it. I daydream a-lot so doing 2-3 hours of just daydreaming throughout the day isn't unordinary so have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Meditation isn't much more than forcing daydreaming anyways. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knux3k May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 The way I see it is that daydreaming is just meditating in a higher brainwave state. Meditation, however, makes you push other thoughts away and daydreaming is allowing them to come in and alter your opinion. Those are the primary differences. They're a lot alike, and I guess daydreaming can lead to meditation. I need to do daydreaming for my tulpa as well, if I don't then I often times get "distracted" by meditation, and can't focus on anything, and instead just sit blankly, with thoughts naturally flowing in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneGuy May 20, 2012 Share May 20, 2012 Now that I think about it daydreaming does invite wandering thoughts whereas meditation keeps all thoughts out. I really didn't think my last post through. Orange juice helps with concentration headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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