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I was talking to two of my friends today, and one of them was talking to me about how recently she'd been able to conjure up the image of a person (whether it was a character from a book, someone she knew, or someone entirely made-up) and actually see them. She was very clear about this--it wasn't just seeing them in her mind's eye, it was actually, physically seeing them. She said that the vision only lasted for a few seconds, and it wasn't totally clear, but that sometimes they would move on their own--for example, she said once she'd pictured me and then I had smiled. Without her doing it intentionally.

 

At this point my OTHER friend chimed in, saying that she'd never actually seen anybody, but that she could sometimes experience the sensation of someone holding her hand or some other kind of physical contact. And it wasn't always at will. For example, once she had to run a mile (she's not much of a runner), and she was growing tired, but then she says she felt something like a hand in her back, pushing her forward. She told me about it afterwards and said it was very strange. My first friend also said that she could conjure up the feeling of somebody holding her hand, and even as we were talking she managed to experience a touch on her shoulder. She says it wasn't any particular person.

 

What I'm really confused about is...how is this possible? Neither of my friends have tulpas, and neither of them spent any long period of time really trying to get this to happen. They said they could just think about it and it would happen. Meanwhile, I've been trying to make contact with my tulpa for several months and I haven't gotten anything more than head pressure. My friends tried to help me to feel the sensations they were talking about--one suggested to take feelings that were already kind of there, like the wind on your face or the feeling you have right after somebody's hit your hand, and make it into something else. But it didn't work for me at all.

 

Has anybody else experienced this kind of thing--hallucinating these little sensations at will, without really trying for a long time the way you would if you were tulpaforcing? Do you know anybody who can do this? And also, do you have any idea at all how this is possible, and why my friends can do it and I can't?

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I hate to say this but I personally think that unless your friends are wizards, they're lying or at least exaggerating.

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Just your typical poltergeist thing going on, haha. I don't know how we can explain to you why people are presumably able to have imagination at such levels that they can literally see them in their reality. It could be underlying factors that allows them to have that imagination, and they're suggestive enough to experience what could be psychosomatic.

 

I had a friend that claimed she contacted other-worldly entities naturally, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt, since I felt her brain in general was just adapt to weird imaginations and all. It's easier to just call BS, but you never know, OP...especially with all sorts of claims in this forum of what people feel they can do and all. I don't think you should be too concerned on what they could do, since it's all in their head. You could apply good faith, and use it as inspiration of what you may want to achieve with tulpas, or just move on.

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Well, I was able to achieve tactile imposition to some extent within a week or two of making A without even really trying for it that hard. Changing the taste of a certain drink I hate to something else deliberately was something I did around the same time because I had heard from here it was possible, so I just did it (it didn't last the longest, but did allow me to drink a cup at a time instead of nearly spitting it out every tiny sip). None of this innately requires having tulpas. Just, people with tulpas tend to go for it.

 

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I hate to say this but I personally think that unless your friends are wizards, they're lying or at least exaggerating.

^^^

 

If I had to guess something, based on personal experience, they could be trying to get in your head a little. Women tend to have interesting ways of making you want to spend more time with them if they have a romantic interest with you. And I find it interesting that I have had similar experiences with at the time was one of my best friends. Only I feel my intelligence was insulted by her attempt ( She claimed she could hear the commands of Greek gods, and could communicate with "Future spirits" . . . Needless to say, this did not go well in the long run for her)

 

However on the chance that they are telling the truth.

 

Some people have a difficult time grasping the concept of the minds senses. I've heard stories of people who were convinced they had special powers because they could listen to music in their head. This could just be a case of that. Especially if they've been hanging around psychics or New agers, because those two groups have a thing where they call what we call visualizations, visions. Its not difficult to picture something at will or by accident, and certainly not impossibly to do it quite vividly.

 

Also these could just be little off things, I've on occasion had little hallucinations that happen for a split second, especially n the corners of my eyes.

"The Question is not who is going to let me, its who is going to stop me"~ Ayn Rand

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Well, I had a friend tell me once that she had imposed wings that happened spontaneously one night when she was really high and had been with her ever since.

 

When I was living in a commune, I'd have extremely vivid visions. I'd have to open my eyes just to prove to myself that I had them closed. That was only when my eyes were closed and I was close to falling asleep though. It wasn't at will, it stopped when I left the commune, and it turned out to be the onset of lucid dreams.

 

I can also make "psi balls" at will, which I believe to be a kind of tactile hallucination. This is something I just seemed to have a natural ability for, and I thought everyone could do it, but lots of people tell me that they can't. The ability has gotten stronger with practice though.

"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

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When I was living in a commune, I'd have extremely vivid visions. I'd have to open my eyes just to prove to myself that I had them closed. That was only when my eyes were closed and I was close to falling asleep though. It wasn't at will, it stopped when I left the commune, and it turned out to be the onset of lucid dreams.

 

You sure that had nothing to do with the LSD?

 

My sarcasm aside. What exactly were the conditions of your commune? There may be some factors in the environment that could effect a human's ability to visualize.

"The Question is not who is going to let me, its who is going to stop me"~ Ayn Rand

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How are there this many people on this website saying basically what's claimed for imposition is not possible short of drugs, psychosis or wizardry? While there are some who might make this up to get a rise out of you, there are most definitely those who can do it, and not just mind wizards who put in over 9000 hours of meditation.

 

I've talked to a few artists who do something like imposition to aid in drawing. One who I know IRL "projects" skeletal structure, and basically what most people would sketch in pencil and later erase, onto the paper and draws around it. He says it requires a good deal of concentration, but he actually does see it there. One time I asked him to try to guide me to do it, and his advice was something like "Close your eyes... visualize a red triangle... focus on it... got it there?... now open your eyes, is it still there?". Those for whom it comes naturally are useless for getting advice from on how to do it. I got pretty much the same advice from an artist and tulpamancer here.

 

Another person I've talked to outside this community has a "HUD" type thing, like what glitchthe3rd has described. It's basically a partway-visible overlay on her visual field that relays things she can tell subconsciously but is not aware of.

 

In this community there have been a number of people who experience their tulpas as very real. FAQ_Man, Irish and QB2 come to mind, though there are others. I've even talked with someone who was finding himself completely unable to visualize anything in his mind's eye starting out, yet when I suggested her try open-eye visualization for a few minutes he had what I had to tell him was darn near imposition and a holy grail for many 'mancers.

 

I would probably have some doubt too from an objective standpoint if I hadn't experienced it myself, if only for a few brief instants. I recall two times when I actually saw Lyra, and I don't mean mind's eye or a weird blip in the near-dark. Both were when I was active-forcing quite a bit and asked her to accompany me everywhere IRL. One time, about noon to 1, we were sitting in two chairs and I got up to get some food. When I returned I had consciously forgotten she was even in that chair. I saw the back of her head visible over the back of the chair, clear as day, as real as seeing anything else. After an instant I realized what I was seeing, my brain WTF'd, and she was gone. The other time I was practicing visualization by hovering my hands around the boundaries of her form, focusing entirely on feeling the textures in as much detail as possible. I mostly felt a tingle in my fingers from the focus, with a bit of semi-there texture. My focus was snapped away from this task when I noticed her becoming visible rather than just mind's eye. She was about 50% transparent when I noticed, and instantly vanished when I became aware of it.

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What exactly were the conditions of your commune? There may be some factors in the environment that could effect a human's ability to visualize.

 

We were asked to visualize multiple times a day. I was working in the dining hall, and a typical work meeting would start with something like "Sit up straight, close your eyes, and visualize a white light filling your body." And that's at work. Once we got off work, what was there to do around campus? Tai chi, yoga, meditation, shamanic drum journeys, reiki training, improv -- pretty much everything you can imagine that involves visualization.

 

So yeah.

 

I don't remember there being any LSD, but obviously there must have been because I simply can't remember any other factors that might cause my visualization to go crazy. Nope. None whatsoever.

"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

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We were asked to visualize multiple times a day. I was working in the dining hall, and a typical work meeting would start with something like "Sit up straight, close your eyes, and visualize a white light filling your body." And that's at work. Once we got off work, what was there to do around campus? Tai chi, yoga, meditation, shamanic drum journeys, reiki training, improv -- pretty much everything you can imagine that involves visualization.

 

So yeah.

 

I don't remember there being any LSD, but obviously there must have been because I simply can't remember any other factors that might cause my visualization to go crazy. Nope. None whatsoever.

 

So basically, it was a bunch of hippies finding different ways to hack their minds? Sounds ballin'. I could definitely see that much practice making everything

 

We should make a Tulpa commune

 

Out of curiosity, why did you leave? Did it fall apart, or did you just feel like leaving.

"The Question is not who is going to let me, its who is going to stop me"~ Ayn Rand

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