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Poll: Should I keep the newcomer or put him on stasis?
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Keep him!
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Put him on Stasis!
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Keep him and make another tulpa with one of the other two soulbonds!
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Keep him and make the other two tulpas!
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I dunno lol
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I don't give a shit
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[General] Accidental Sentiance
#1
So I've been contemplating making another one of my Soulbonds a Tulpa for a few days, and I had narrowed it down to 3 yesterday, and 1 today, but I WAS going to ask you guys if 2 is bad for how new I am to this, or what. But I Kinnnnda accidentally was passive forcing him earlier today, and he's here, and even very vocal. I already did a sentience test, which he passed. Now my question has changed; Should I put him on stasis for a bit, or keep him around? One thing I'm a bit concerned about is that the 3 I was debating on yesterday are kinda like a package deal, if that makes since. If I make one a Tulpa, they're gonna practically BEG for me to make the other two Tupperware/Tulpa/Tulpas too, which could definitely be over whelming. So, please participate in the poll above to let me know!
The name's Bryan! In system Nobody(In order of the rainbow): 
Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, 
Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, and Zachery. 
I guess I have to talk... I practice Tulpamancy and Psionics, PM me for stuff related to that. I love Puyo Puyo(Look it up!). I exist and I like it like that. PM me for a random essay topic, or somethin'. 

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#2
I can't see a poll, but I would highly recommend you keep these guys in stasis until you're happy with Pencil's progress. This also gets into basically tulpa-parenting opinion, but I feel like most soulbonds-turned-tulpas will deviate from their namesake. Once the first becomes a tulpa, they shouldn't be considered a "package deal" with anyone. I had one tulpa, one kinda-vocal proto-tulpa, and one random thoughtform that followed me around at one point in my life. It was so stressing on my first tulpa that he decided all three of them were a danger to my health, and I lost them all. Of course, it's your decision, but I hope you consider what the chance of dissipation must be for these soulbonds if they become tulpas, as well as Pencil's chance of making it.

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#3
I definitely recommend not creating/adding any more tulpas for at least a year (but probably more than that considering your age). You should wait until Pencil is fully developed. Plus, at your age, it is not a good idea to fill up your head full of more and more people before you're even fully mature yourself. I strongly believe that any more than 1 is a bad idea if you're only 13, especially if your tulpa is brand new. 

Plus, you shouldn't create tulpas just because you like a certain character of yours. The MOMENT a character becomes sentient, they cease to be that character and instead become their own person. Tulpas aren't collectible gimmicks to just create more of because they're fun and you like a character. They're actual people to be cared for and treated with respect. And that means, not creating more when you just started and are only a child, and not creating tulpas just to fulfill a fascination with a character.
I'm Apollo Fire, the "Sun God" of the Felight family. I'm a tulpa created December 2016. My systemmates are RadioPiano, & Indigo. Form images: 1 2
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#4
Having a poll is a little bit.. not quite "morbid", but it sure doesn't feel right. You shouldn't make tulpas because you feel like you should have more or less, you should make them because you want them to exist! Lumi didn't just think "Hmm, it's about time for another tulpa" when he made Lucilyn. He made her because he felt our system could benefit as a whole from having a new member (and more specifically to us, because he felt she'd enjoy existing). You should do the same when deciding on having more system members or not: Do you want your "family" to be bigger? Will you be willing and able to give them their fair share of attention along with your previously existing systemmates? It's never about number specifically, just the time and general life situation you're in.

Also remember tulpas will probably be around for a very long time! It's up to the system or host whether you dissipate a tulpa or do things like "stasis", but for drama-avoidance's sake it's best just to avoid making tulpas willy-nilly you know?

Lumi started with three (accidental) tulpas, and that was mostly fine for him, so it's not really about how new you are. Rather, you might just not have the insight on how having more systemmates will go long term. So I suppose waiting is always a good option.
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#5
(10-11-2018, 11:29 PM)Reisen Wrote: Also remember tulpas will probably be around for a very long time! It's up to the system or host whether you dissipate a tulpa or do things like "stasis", but for drama-avoidance's sake it's best just to avoid making tulpas willy-nilly you know?

This is something that we unfortunately did not understand back in the first year of being a system. We would add new tulpas for no other reason than "just cause lol," and then our system would suffer greatly as a result, and/or the tulpas we added would be neglected severely. We didn't fully understand the consequences of creating more. Putting them away alleviated all of that pressure, but we were left with guilt from dissipating innocent tulpas. So, it wasn't fun either way. 
I'm Apollo Fire, the "Sun God" of the Felight family. I'm a tulpa created December 2016. My systemmates are RadioPiano, & Indigo. Form images: 1 2
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#6
Assuming that you're as new as your join date suggests, creating a second tulpa should still be a far-off thing, especially considering your age. Having multiple tulpas might seem appealing when you read about all of the intra-system dynamics but for plenty of people it's a difficult game of divvying up attention. This is even worse when you're dealing with multiple underdeveloped thoughtforms. So, if you can, ignore your "soulbonds" and any temptation to create a new tulpa until you wouldn't be making one for the novelty of it.

At the very least, consider reading through some of the progress reports on this site to see how other people handled this kind of situation and what effects their decision had on the process.
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#7
(10-11-2018, 11:25 PM)Apollo Wrote:
I definitely recommend not creating/adding any more tulpas for at least a year (but probably more than that considering your age). You should wait until Pencil is fully developed. Plus, at your age, it is not a good idea to fill up your head full of more and more people before you're even fully mature yourself. I strongly believe that any more than 1 is a bad idea if you're only 13, especially if your tulpa is brand new. 

Plus, you shouldn't create tulpas just because you like a certain character of yours. The MOMENT a character becomes sentient, they cease to be that character and instead become their own person. Tulpas aren't collectible gimmicks to just create more of because they're fun and you like a character. They're actual people to be cared for and treated with respect. And that means, not creating more when you just started and are only a child, and not creating tulpas just to fulfill a fascination with a character.

I guess I should clear some stuff up. It's entirely possible that the Soulbonds were sentient before anything related to parapsychology came up, and they already have deviated from what they originally were. Though it sounds stupid, I'm more... for lack of better words, powerful, than you guys think. I may be a kid, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm weak and immature(Well, some people will always be immature. I very well might be one of those people, but I can be mature when I need to. Why am I putting this?). I don't want to sound cocky or arrogant, but it's the truth. Things in general come easy to me, and with the rare exception, I'm almost never overwhelmed by what I'm doing/what I will do. I could easily keep these 3 Soulbonds as just that, Soulbonds. I don't quite know what I can handle, but there is a part of me that feels like I can handle this. I suppose I'm going to listen to that part...? I dunno… I'm still not sure. I'll keep this poll up for a few more days. 
Yes, I know Tulpae are people that should be treated with respect. That's like Tulpamancy 101. If I end up keeping Layy(The accidental tulpa), than I'll treat him as I would any other person. I know how I act here, and I know that it isn't exactly something of a mod, that I'll admit to. I act the same to my not-so-close friends, and kiiinda DARK and cryptic to my close friends. Why am I saying these things? No clue. I guess I here someone say something opinion based that I must immediately debate on, lol. Uhh… I don't know where I was going with that... Have a good day!

Edit: Also, these Soulbonds have been around for over a year. Pencil has been around for 3 years. As sentient soulbonds, they interacted quite well. Pencil was missing them. I know I should be putting this in the original message, but what ever!
(10-11-2018, 11:29 PM)Reisen Wrote: Having a poll is a little bit.. not quite "morbid", but it sure doesn't feel right. 

Sheesh, I like polls. Anything wrong with that?
The name's Bryan! In system Nobody(In order of the rainbow): 
Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, 
Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, and Zachery. 
I guess I have to talk... I practice Tulpamancy and Psionics, PM me for stuff related to that. I love Puyo Puyo(Look it up!). I exist and I like it like that. PM me for a random essay topic, or somethin'. 

https://my.cbox.ws/TulpaDotInfo
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#8
Regardless of if they were already sentient or not, you still decide who joins your system, and you have a responsibility to yourself and Pencil to make the right choice for yourselves and your future, even if he misses them. Like Vos said, it would be best to ignore them, and have you and Pencil move on from wanting to add more, at least for another few years. It doesn't quite matter how "easily" creating new tulpas comes to you, what matters is doing what's best for yourselves and not possibly putting anyone's well-being in jeopardy by adding more who don't get enough attention and adding needless stress to yourself at such a stage in your life. Focus on developing yourself as a person, Pencil as a thoughtform, and your relationship together as a system. Don't get caught up in the unnecessary creation of more tulpas who will complicate your lives and likely make things more difficult.
I'm Apollo Fire, the "Sun God" of the Felight family. I'm a tulpa created December 2016. My systemmates are RadioPiano, & Indigo. Form images: 1 2
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#9
(10-12-2018, 12:09 AM)IceCreeper909 Wrote: Though it sounds stupid, I'm more... for lack of better words, powerful, than you guys think. I may be a kid, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm weak and immature(Well, some people will always be immature. I very well might be one of those people, but I can be mature when I need to. Why am I putting this?). I don't want to sound cocky or arrogant, but it's the truth. Things in general come easy to me, and with the rare exception, I'm almost never overwhelmed by what I'm doing/what I will do. I could easily keep these 3 Soulbonds as just that, Soulbonds. I don't quite know what I can handle, but there is a part of me that feels like I can handle this. I suppose I'm going to listen to that part...? I dunno… I'm still not sure. I'll keep this poll up for a few more days. 
Yes, I know Tulpae are people that should be treated with respect. That's like Tulpamancy 101. If I end up keeping Layy(The accidental tulpa), than I'll treat him as I would any other person. I know how I act here, and I know that it isn't exactly something of a mod, that I'll admit to. I act the same to my not-so-close friends, and kiiinda DARK and cryptic to my close friends. Why am I saying these things? No clue. I guess I here someone say something opinion based that I must immediately debate on, lol. Uhh… I don't know where I was going with that... Have a good day!

I think that I understand where you are coming from, I myself am 14 years old, and so I know how much it sucks to be excluded from things. I also understand how tempting it can be to believe that you are smarter and more mature than your peers, but you have to remember that you can only campare your thoughts to their actions, which isn't really a fair comparison. I believe you when you say that nothing has been a challenge thus far in life, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you are good at everything, really life is just painfully easy at this point. Now tulpamancy is not difficult, but it does take time, and if you decide to create a new tulpa then that means that you will either have to double you tulpa forcing time, or you will have to devote less time to each tulpa, which I can tell you right now is not good for developing tulpas no matter how good at tulpamancy.

TL;DR
You should stick to just one tulpa not because of your age or compatency but because of your time and the development of your current tulpa
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#10
(10-12-2018, 12:09 AM)IceCreeper909 Wrote: I guess I should clear some stuff up. It's entirely possible that the Soulbonds were sentient before anything related to parapsychology came up, and they already have deviated from what they originally were. Though it sounds stupid, I'm more... for lack of better words, powerful, than you guys think. I may be a kid, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm weak and immature(Well, some people will always be immature. I very well might be one of those people, but I can be mature when I need to. Why am I putting this?). I don't want to sound cocky or arrogant, but it's the truth. Things in general come easy to me, and with the rare exception, I'm almost never overwhelmed by what I'm doing/what I will do. I could easily keep these 3 Soulbonds as just that, Soulbonds. I don't quite know what I can handle, but there is a part of me that feels like I can handle this. I suppose I'm going to listen to that part...? I dunno… I'm still not sure. I'll keep this poll up for a few more days. 
Yes, I know Tulpae are people that should be treated with respect. That's like Tulpamancy 101. If I end up keeping Layy(The accidental tulpa), than I'll treat him as I would any other person. I know how I act here, and I know that it isn't exactly something of a mod, that I'll admit to. I act the same to my not-so-close friends, and kiiinda DARK and cryptic to my close friends. Why am I saying these things? No clue. I guess I here someone say something opinion based that I must immediately debate on, lol. Uhh… I don't know where I was going with that... Have a good day!

Edit: Also, these Soulbonds have been around for over a year. Pencil has been around for 3 years. As sentient soulbonds, they interacted quite well. Pencil was missing them. I know I should be putting this in the original message, but what ever!

Sheesh, I like polls. Anything wrong with that?

I think Resin was trying to say that it should ultimately be the decision of you and Pencil to either include not include them into the system. Kind of like how parents should decide how to raise their own kids, not their community. The community can give advice, but at the end of the day the parents (in most cases) should be the ones to make the final decision.

You won't do the other soulbonds a disservice if you wait a year or two for Pencil to become a stronger Tulpa and then bring up the "more Tulpas" question. A few months from now, Pencil may not like the idea of having "brothers and sisters" if you get what I mean. Plus, having more experience with Tulpamancy would make you wiser and perhaps "trained" I suppose, so you will have a much better idea of what to do next.

Also, you're not "weak" if you don't accept THREE new people into your life forever right now, on top of Pencil. Adults fall apart when systems get too big just because having to manage so many people becomes overwhelming.

If they are not sentient, your other option is to make them characters. It may not apply to you, but I felt the same way with some of the Grays. I wanted them to stay just as Cat did, but we knew that they shouldn't be Tulpas, and instead can just live in the wonderland. I still can talk to them every so often, and if Cat creates a new Gray again our system isn't at risk for getting too big.
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