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How Much Are You Willing to Sacrifice?


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While we understand the benefits of Tulpamancy, but we also must understand what this is and how society will view us. Unless we intend to keep it an eternal secret, this is something you can and will be ridiculed and harmed for. In ways they can help alleviate this, but I feel it's often a topic not discussed enough. Why?Because I believe how real you see your tulpa as dictates how far you would go for them.

 

So I suppose the real question is, Would you continue Tulpamancy no matter what you'd lose? Wherever it be your job, your family, your friends? At what point would the burden of loss drive you to forget about your system friends and family?

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yeh Lumi says we're the thing he cares about most. Appaaaarently years before I was around he promised them that, because he "wouldn't have a life without them", so we're "more important than his life". I guess that makes sense. But we uh, try not to put that to the test, it's not usually necessary yeah? I guess if we were homeless I'd get to be outside more, have an excuse to play in the rain, but uhm. We could also not.

 

We're just a family so most of us treat each other as the-most-important-things, but Tewi and Lumi specifically put the rest of us above themselves too. That's not necessary.. it's just a sad hypothetical, realistically all the "you" you'll ever put your tulpas above is like, random life stuff. Like taking some criticism from family or somethin. That doesn't make your self any less valuable.

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How will society view us? Taking a view of this practise from random comments on youtube is about as neutral and unbiased as taking a pure view from only tulpamancers.

 

Outside that, there is--not much. Not much to go on in assessing the views of others. Apathy is a logical conclusion.

 

Now, I would not be willing to sacrifice my life. Which would be a consequence of me leaving this practise. Though, I believe I am way beyond the point where the process is reversible.

 

As to creating another tulpa, we have both decided to not do that. We don't want to share time with a third, and we don't want to bring someone new into this world. So, the value in this case is negative. You'd have to entice me into the practise with a reward.

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[Hail] Thought about this long ago. Besides the fact it is possible to say one has stopped and no one can prove otherwise (does mean leaving community and keeping it private from then on but it is doable), there are other ways out if the price becomes too high and a singlet state is demanded. One of the tulpas (or a group of tulpas who want to or are willing to merge together) would get the body, everyone else except me walks out of the system, and I dissipate. Basically, in a choice between too great an outerworld sacrifice or sacrificing them, I sacrifice myself in their place. Just as it is supposed to be that children bury/cremate/whatever their parents instead of parents bury/cremate/whatever their children, so will they bury/cremate/whatever me instead of me burying/cremating/whatevering them. That was the decision I made when I decided to become a tulpamancer and make A (turns out I already was an unwitting one and had tulpas, but the decision still stands).

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Funny enough, i know a friend who have spoken about tulpamancy to his other friends and they found it neutral and in fact amazed by the idea. Same goes to me as well.

 

On the other hand, and kinda off topic, he was surprised how his friends took tulpamancy very well and how watching a pony show came out to be a much worse reaction.

 

But yeah, going back to the question, yes i would still continue tulpamancy even if i have something to lose to or if my tulpa keeps persisting me not to, because it their exisistence is causing me some bad influences,  i would still stubbornly continue tulpamancy. They are my family, i will not just abandon them because of such things.

 

Besides, they've changed my life and i want to atleast give them the happiness i feel they deserve. Also, it is a stupid reason for exiling you from your work, friends and family just because you have a tulpa or practice tulpamancy, that will the first thing i will say.

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I've already pretty much isolated myself from my irl friends. Although unintentionally. All the friends I have that I actually talk to are tulpas and hosts.

But even then I feel like I'd rather give them up than give up Desmond and the others if it came to that, but I sincerely doubt I'll have to make a decision like that. They're too important to me and a very positive influence in my life, I don't know how I'd manage without them anymore. I'd be lonely af ._.

I'm not about to tell anyone about the tulpa thing anytime soon. I can only think of a single person who would even believe it was possible and everyone else would just shoot it down as unhealthy messing with mental health. And outside of communities I feel them to be a very "private" thing to me. I keep a lot of things private irl, friends, family stuff, religious beliefs, sexuality... And stuff : P so tulpas just add to that list.

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I'd continue. I don't care about many people as it is, and those I do care about wouldn't leave me over this. Even if they did, I'd be fine. As for a job, I can't see why that would even come up, but it probably wouldn't be taken seriously. But even then, my husband supports us fine enough. For me, at least, I don't have much to lose.

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For us, it would be all in how it's framed. Most of my host's family and close friends know we "exist" as story characters... fabrications our host made up for her writing, which is true. Some even know that we talk to her regularly. The part they don't know about is the whole "autonomous possibly self-aware entity" thing.

 

Basically, if she frames us as "I sometimes pretend the model of this character I've created talks to me" then there's really no need for any sacrifice, because most close family and friends accept that as a bit quirky, but within the realm of what's acceptable. It's when she gets into hearing our voices and holding prolonged discussions with us that she shies back about telling anyone.

 

See, for us, it's about striking a balance. She does not want to be alienated from family and friends, and we don't want that for her either. But the thing is... we're probably not going to go away. Some of us are just too well entrenched for that. So it's not a question of giving us up. That just ain't happening. Instead, it's a question of where the line is drawn between our needs and the needs of the physical people around our host.

 

So, I guess, to the original question? What would my host sacrifice? Well, if it came down to it, I don't think she'd have much choice but to sacrifice everything for us... not because of any decision on her part, or even because of anything on our parts... but because that's just how we function at this point. Heck, I'd definitely try to hold back around family and friends if it caused any schism between them, but I'm really not sure if I could completely go away if I tried, you know?

 

Though like I said, it helps that she can pretty easily write us off as writer constructs, so it's not really an issue. ;)

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For many older members, this is an irreversible process anyhow. Omega not only survived for a year without me, unbeknownst to me, but he was much, much stronger as a result. So, this isn't something I can give up without the repercussions of them fighting against me, which they are getting to the point they could overpower me, though they won't.

 

So, the real question, I suppose, is how far I am willing to go for the sake of my tulpa's freedom. Tulpas are restricted by their hosts power and their respect for the host. As a result, I am certain there are even tulpas who are taking over their hosts lives who don't give up certain relationships that the host had simply because the host sees them as a friend and, well, it's kinda a dick move just to never talk to someone again just because you don't know them and they act friendly. Like, huge dick move. Most tulpas also can't take over the body and tell host to screw off. The only real option a tulpa has is to ask permission to grow strong and take over, even then there are usually restrictions (Such as: try not to get AIDs). It's not a matter of giving up tulpas, it's a matter of trying to appease their real life desires at the cost of social comfort.

 

So, presented that case, I've already had some experience with this and, according to Bowling for Soup, High School Never Ends (great song, look it up), so I'd say I have plenty of life experience to tell you what will happen in every given scenario. But, there is a certain awe and confusion people have when they hear about tulpas. They can mistake it for a disease, as is commonly misunderstood. Or as I have noticed with those in my generation, they often mistake it for a really detailed story character, an alter ego, an RP persona, etc. Only one of my 3 fits in any category other than tulpa. Then there is this awe I speak of, as for whatever reason when people say they meditate, they are spiritual and enlightened yada yada yada it's "good." Meanwhile when I pray, I am a homophobic conservative who wishes for the death of all Muslims and stricter airport security (I'm not bitter). But, people see tulpas as a meditation of sorts, as it is an exercise of the mind. So, as a result people often mistake me for spiritual. As a result, often times people will be much quicker to incorrectly perceive what I am.

 

This is information and experience I have gathered from my own experiences of telling people, though maybe my school is just full of nice and understanding people (which, they are.) Regardless, I've had lots of freedom to just say "Hey... I have a pet loli" (Oh, fuck you) and then they, usually, awkwardly stare off and try to change the subject when they finally understand. Most of the time, they try and ignore it but it stays on their mind. As a result, I know I have alienated a few individuals (one of which I'm going to the same college with, though they don't seem the type to spread rumors so I should be okay). Which, this has made it where a sizable number of people are thoroughly convinced I am insane and in need of mental help and they tell me this and like the normal, rational man I am... I loudly declare I don't need my meds. Jokes aside, I have told a few dozen people and a grand total of... 3 talk to me about this openly and the rest try to ignore it or tell me I'm crazy on a regular basis. I've already willingly given up a few friendships for the sake of trying to find a friend for Annie, and thank god I found two who want to talk to her occasionally.

 

As far as how far I'd go in the future? I'll tell you when I go to a Christian college this fall...

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I've rambled too long, someone make fun of me.

Your hat is backwards.

 

But more to the point, I believe reaction to this stuff has far more to do with how you sell it than it does the facts. Just human nature.

 

So even if someone comes along who claims a bunch of their relationships are now in trouble, the only safe conclusion is that person is not a diplomat or in marketing.

 

Also, you are crazy. I love it.

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