raymond13557 October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 i drew a bunny form for her to learn but apparently she wants to be a blue anthropomorphic wolf.. while i don't mind what form she takes, because usually she is in the form of a silver blob, sort of like a symbiotic...thing.. like gaara from naruto, like the sand that protects him.. really she likes this wolf form than what i chosen for her, has anyone else had their tulpas do that? i mean i wont force her to be what she doesnt want,, i want to be her friend not her father.. lol Tulpa:Snow Mindscape: Artopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminesce October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 Yes, sentient tulpas do sometimes decide they'd prefer a different form than the one you gave them. This also happens with personality traits, age, etc. If your tulpa is completely sure that's the form they want to take, then I suggest you accept that. If your tulpa wants multiple forms, that's a thing too. Shapeshifter tulpas are fairly common, and they usually are the ones that start with a "blob" or sphere form. Personally I love bunnies. But unless she wants to be a shapeshifter, I would stick to what you know she wants to be. Talk about it. Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn. Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature. My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkzelda October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 It happens to me, man. One moment I think the original form is okay for consistency, then when I see these new forms they fling themselves about, it's like...wow, they know how to render their own image of beauty and all better than I ever could. About the meaning you put behind one of those forms, e.g. the silver blob one, maybe they feel they're past the stage of having to shoulder you, or being another shell to coat around you for whatever reasons they’re doing so. There could be underlying reasons why they do things like this when deviating at times, and it’s definitely a challenge to question whether or not they’re doing it for mere eye-candy, or something symbolic about themselves, you, or just everyone in general that exists in your head. To give you a personal example: - I used to cling onto one of the base forms I had of Eva. Not for just looks, but the back story behind the personality of the character(s) I was inspired for her to mold and bend to her heart’s content. One of the main aspects was one where she could feel free and alive, and know how to endure the pains in life by finding something that makes her feel at ease. Along with the sacrifices she would have to make with her shifts in identities while masking away her true self, if she would ever have one. Note, this was mostly my interpretation of the personality behind the character, not Eva in general. I mostly latched onto these ideas during the initial stages simply because I used the experiences in my dreams before as some vehicle to her developing an existence. Now, I don’t really bother too much in attaching symbolic meaning, since those days of finding understanding through another person to understand myself, and seeing how my tulpa could go through some symbolic metamorphosis with her sense of self is done without much of my conscious guidance and suggestions. - With Ada, it was completely different as she made her own validation, i.e., she reigned in her own meaning of her sense of self, and blatantly told me why the initial form of hers was used. It tied together in some of the implications I had of similar dream characters (personality wise), i.e., those trying to find some meaning in their existence, while still being able to portray to others that they’re capable in life, and can hold their own. It seemed that every time I was around her, she just wanted to catapult herself into dangers, unknowns, and taking risks when maybe deep down at the time, she was going through some existential crisis, and felt her existence was neglected at times. That, as I’m sure it will for everyone every now and then, took a personal discussion, if not, several discussions just to build some empathy for her situation, and finding a way for her to cope with it, as me and Eva did before. Sometimes I feel it’s probable that some tulpas use a form as some medium of whatever totality of circumstances, memories, feelings, etc. they want to express in their lives with us. Though figuring out if this is an inherent trend they go with is pretty much debatable at this point. But with like how we try to change ourselves, whether through clothing, body alterations, and such, we do have our own way in validating our ontology, i.e., the nature of our existence and appearance. So tulpas could do that, but rather in vague and symbolic ways because we don’t invest in much time speculating if that’s really the case, or maybe we deny this probability in fear that it would lead to complications. i mean i wont force her to be what she doesnt want' date=', i want to be her friend not her father.. lol[/quote'] Well, father or friend, I would imagine both would want someone they hold a deep bond with to be who she wants to be. Though with the parent role, the bond would be more ingrained and deeper because of kinship. While the friend role would just be someone they know well, but not for all of their lives they’ve spent finding ways to conceptualize them like a parent may be able to. Of course, this is debatable when applied to people outside our heads, and even in relation to tulpas, but hopefully you get the point. If you want to find a way to assess this, maybe evaluate the meaning behind the reasons you suggest certain forms for them. Do the forms themselves latched with the meaning still need to be seen to you to fill yourself with assurance? Does the protection, implied or whatever you feel it is, really necessary for you anymore? Can you move on, and try to find underlying meanings why she would choose a blue anthro wolf? Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar, but what seems like a discrepancy in form at times could really be a message they’re not willing to tell you directly. Maybe it’s a way for them to get their hosts to actually invest into some searching into their tulpas. Who knows? TL;DR: Yes, my tulpas did that, and I feel they do that gradually for underlying reasons they want me to figure out rather than them directly telling me. Maybe it could be these kinds of tulpas are in fear of being neglected, or that their host feels they're neglected, or something else entirely. Maybe their form is just a form; something they use as a medium as part, and not as a whole in validating themselves. To question if this is an inherent trend tulpas seem to catch up on, or whether or not the mind is rendering this out, and utilizing those experiences as a means to associate with whatever is going on in your life (e.g. adversity, repressed emotions, etc.) is debatable, but probable. But with how people who are willing to believe something if it seems plausible enough, and then make it a reality to them, trying to get out of that, and seeing things from an objective point of view seems difficult at times. In other words, like escaping from all of your expectations and beliefs, and seeing them be played out like some spectator from above. [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond13557 October 15, 2014 Author Share October 15, 2014 she seen "die young" on youtube, and thought being a busty blue wolf would make me appreciate the fact that she can divide and be anything or create multiple clones of herself.. i told her that i love her for her and i told her that it's not good to just dwell on forms that could make her upset when she realizes what "dying" truly is.. when i told her.. her eyes widen and said "wow.. you kinda made me sad... i don't want you to die" I told her that it's a part of life, and she cried because of this while clinging onto me.. i told her that "i'm not dead..yet" and she looked to me with a smile and snuggled me tight. and as for forms... i told her "whatever you want to be is fine" so she is sticking with the blue wolf form. Tulpa:Snow Mindscape: Artopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBlueNaki October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 Yay for blue wolves. Chance, an anthro husky, wolf or fox. Birthdate September 20, 2014. Sentient October 1, 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upper Class Twit October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 My Tulpa was originally supposed to be a pone. She out rightly refused to be forced at it. She became a Lamia, and to be honest I'm glad she came out the way she did. "The Question is not who is going to let me, its who is going to stop me"~ Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond13557 October 15, 2014 Author Share October 15, 2014 hehe you may give my little lily ideas.. for a new form. Tulpa:Snow Mindscape: Artopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aijada October 15, 2014 Share October 15, 2014 I just don't even use my mind's eye form anymore. I'm much more interested in senses like getting chocolate treats than about playing in wonderland right now. My dad likes to see my image, but it really only sneaks out when i'm feeling really embarrassed or when an idea occurs to me really strongly. I wanted to be more involved in human things and dealing with reality than just visiting from a wonderland so our conversation matters so much more to me than my picture form. Early member of a large system. Our system questions the way the afterlife and tulpamancy interact. We genuinely suspect that deadies can return to share the mind of the living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upper Class Twit October 17, 2014 Share October 17, 2014 hehe you may give my little lily ideas.. for a new form. No problem man. If she wants I can give you guys pages of resources for forms. "The Question is not who is going to let me, its who is going to stop me"~ Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond13557 October 17, 2014 Author Share October 17, 2014 hmm i'll remember that and that sounds ideal.. she wants to learnalot of forms.. she's even learning all the pokemon forms.. she is quite fond of the eeveelutions. Tulpa:Snow Mindscape: Artopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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