[Imposition] A Starting Imposition Guide
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(02-20-2013, 12:38 PM)Couguhl Wrote: Oh, excellent. Avalanche scared me for a second. Imposition was one of the main reasons I originally wanted to make a tulpa.

But if he would really like to be pedantic, he could say that physical objects in general aren't reliable because all of your optical data is experienced once it has been processed by your brain, so you have no sensory proof that the physical world even exists (ie your eyes don't 'see').

Well there's no need to be an asshole.
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(02-20-2013, 01:40 PM)Avalanche Wrote: yeah but

i can see with my eyes?

With them, yes, but they don't see themselves.
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(02-20-2013, 10:25 PM)Couguhl Wrote: With them, yes, but they don't see themselves.

I can cross my eyes though so where is your god now?
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(10-25-2012, 01:47 AM)QContrary Wrote: I realized it's because I'm the one making myself noticed.


Maybe I'm a bit too picky on details. But does the tulpa try to get noticed during imposition sessions? Or do you suggest she tries to grab my attention at every moment in the day? Because the latter would be annoying as balls. Oh, and should I be walking around her and examining her like I did the mail box? Interacting with? God I haven't been this chocked full of questions since we started creation...

[Um, sorry if I'm being like G. Do you mean I have to want to be imposed? As in say to myself ''I wanna be a real pony!'' or something a tinchy bit more serious XD.

I've never really been the super active type to be honest either, so I just move around mess with things? That's cool I guess. Think imposition, get noticed.]
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(10-25-2012, 01:47 AM)QContrary Wrote: I think that imposition is done by the tulpa, not the host.

I didn't thoroughly read this guide yet, just skimmed it, and I'm not sure about this statement.

Moon_Shooter claims that he could impose before he had tulpas. It would also make sense for it to not be a tulpa-related skill, since, once you can impose your tulpa both actively and passively, I'd assume you'd also be able to impose objects.

He also said that this is a cone skill and that if you can impose one tulpa, you can impose 3 as well, you don't have to individually go through the same process again and again like you'd have to do with possession. Anyone who can confirm this?
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#26
Yes, I'm not really a fan of how she worded it. However, I don't believe that she meant it exactly as it sounds. I don't think she's suggesting that imposition can only be done by tulpas, but rather that it can (at least mostly) be done by them. Of course, I don't know the validity of that statement either, but I don't think it impossible.
I don't think she would disagree with the fact that you can "impose" without a tulpa.
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#27
Obviously a host can impose any object or scene they like. However, Mary's method for tulpa imposition is for the tulpas to manage imposing themselves. I can see this having a couple advantages. For one thing, it gives the tulpa clearer independence and less chance of being influenced by the host's thoughts. For another, if they're managing it they can make it work even if the host is absorbed in something that would normally take enough of their focus that imposed stuff might fade.

It does however require a very independent tulpa.
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#28
Yeah, I didn't think so either Kiahdaj, just making sure. Also, if anybody who can impose would be able to confirm Moon's statement of imposition being a cone skill, that'd be nice.

Regarding the method - I like it, getting your tulpa to help you impose is good, involving your tuppers in your activities is very important imo, regardless of whether it's forcing or watching tv or clipping your nails. If you know how to involve them - do it. I'd test this guide but unfortunately my visualization isn't good enough yet for my tulpas to be able to work with it.
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#29
I don't really agree with this. You seem to be saying that imposition is actually the tulpa making themselves noticed in your mind's eye as being in a certain location, but not actually in your physical vision. This is semantic, and imposition is already defined. People that actually get imposition done literally hear and see their tulpa with their physical eyes and ears.

With your definition, many people trying imposition may already have it done, but what this forum means by "imposition" is something different - picking up on the tulpa with the senses, not only inside your mind.

I'm surprised that others seem to agree with this other definition of imposition... People here defined imposition as a sort of, "forced hallucination" (if you don't follow the metaphysical theory of the tulpa being a being like that)
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#30
Damnit I wrote a post about this and it didn't get posted. To summarize what I wanted to say after giving the guide a proper reading:

Don't treat any technique as a simple thing while writing a guide, first of all. Saying "imposition is simple" will discourage people who are bad at visualizing or imposition in general. That's not the correct approach for a guide. Second, when writing a guide, make sure you are sure what you're talking about. If something is surprisingly easy, you may want to double-check things (without leaving room for semantical misunderstandings) before thinking you've done something others take months to do in a matter of minutes or hours without much trouble. People don't say imposition is hard for nothing.

Which leads me to my third point. Know what you're talking about. You say that we see with our eyes, and visualize with our mind, implying that those are handled by two separate areas from the brain, while, in fact, the information you receive through your eyes is "rendered" through the visual cortex, which is also where visualizations originate from (this is what I know, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). You don't "overlay" things while imposing, you make an imposed tulpa indistinguishable from a physical being.

Also, you said "imposing is easy", but you do realize that there is more than just one sense to impose, don't you?
I believe you should revise your guide and method, and also start wondering whether what you're doing is actually imposition.
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