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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
I wouldn't say this is a lost cause. I didn't want to necro the thread but I have been using these and find them wonderful for my forcing.
I did my own tweaking of the script so it felt less clunky with my native dialect (shall is more a UK word and I'm 'murican) and made other small edits to fit my own mind and what speaks to me, but the core of it I didn't change. I think these are especially helpful for earlier forcing, or if you're just stuck in a mental slump and need the aide.

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04-25-2016, 06:55 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
I agree, Drakaina. Not a lost cause. It certainly didn't fall on deaf ears.

"I even wanted to go so far in conversational hypnosis, and exercises for that with tulpas, but with how I highly doubt anyone would take a stand for themselves to add their own twist into it, I figured why waste energy when barely anyone sees hope in it?"

I found this interesting, because it reminded me of a section of a book by Michael Talbot, "The Holographic Universe." The author was a legitimate physicist, though this book was fairly scoffed at by his peers, because he tried to offer an explanation for paranormal events through the thesis of the book. The section I refer to in this case discusses a bizarre experiment between two expert hypnotists; through a series of sessions, they would hypnotize each other until they were both mutually and simultaneously interacting while in a hypnotic state in order to explore a shared, agreed upon but fictional terrain. (A wonderland!) Reportedly, both hypnotists got so freaked out by how 'real' it became for them that they ended the experiment.

It is quite likely that i am particularly bias, as an explanation to why I enjoyed this thread.

"Now, I don't really use hypnosis as a supplement anymore since I found something suitable that can be at my beck and call."

May I ask what that was?

PS, sorry, I haven't figured out how to copy and paste correctly.
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04-26-2016, 12:29 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
Just to add, I don't think this is a lost cause either.

These self-hypnosis scripts make active forcing easier for me, and have been the reason why I have made progress in tulpamancy.
They pretty much are all the active forcing I do these days, and I have found them reasonably effective for someone that had never tried hypnosis of any kind.

True, looks like they didn't got much attention, but rest assured LinkZelda, they have been more useful than you think.
04-26-2016, 12:57 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
(04-26-2016, 12:29 AM)solarchariot Wrote: I agree, Drakaina. Not a lost cause. It certainly didn't fall on deaf ears.


May I ask what that was?

Image streaming, a concept coined by Win Wenger. I made a guide here where I threw in my own twist with tulpas, but it was really inspired by a guy named Igor Ledochowski who mentioned the concept in this 600+ paged e-book I read over his conversational hyponsis thing.

Ever since I discovered it, it changed how I was handling this whole thing. I want to go further into it, but the more I do it, the less comprehensible I become for others. Or rather, I did it so much that my mind somehow puts up a William Shakespeare filter that I can't bother to take off when it comes to having people understand things I'm stating. But honestly, I'm not the only one since mine tend to become more vocal because of it through posts, but we just don't do the whole labeling things because I guess they don't care to.

Though, I don't think it's the wording issue that's my concern, it's the fact that I have to think to make it more readable vs. making lengthy posts. The latter just comes off naturally without even thinking anymore since I'm sure doing hours on end with what I mentioned above will become natural at some point. It's quite ironic, to have to think more to express less while embracing how the mind just wants to go apeshit with other viewpoints. Don't get me wrong, I love the activity, but the challenge of having to switch on/off that thinking to something more casual was the main concern for me. I think over time, I'll conquer it, and know what it means to shift a mentality, literally. Might make a script for it, lol.


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04-27-2016, 04:28 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
What about using this during early stage tulpa development? I have been active with mine for only a week and all I have is a plain form, and the occasional emotional response and a couple "flash visions" as im sure mist would call 'em.

Could this be a useful tool in further development? Or just reinforcement of current states of said thougtform?

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(05-30-2016, 01:03 AM)ThreeSevens Wrote: What about using this during early stage tulpa development? I have been active with mine for only a week and all I have is a plain form, and the occasional emotional response and a couple "flash visions" as im sure mist would call 'em.

Could this be a useful tool in further development? Or just reinforcement of current states of said thougtform?
I think I can talk from experience, as for a while in the beginning, self-hypnosis was all the active forcing I used to do.

I progressed somewhat. I don't really have any "benchmark" to compare to since I don't know what would have happened if I had gone the common forcing route. However, the progress I got (mild communication without mindvoice) from using self-hypnosis has, in my experience, been long-lasting and quite stable. I would recommend it, but I would also urge users to do other forms of forcing to truly advance at a steady pace. My advance has been slow because I only used a single method for months on end, combined it with narration and called it a day. Nowadays, self-hypnosis is a supplement but not the core of my forcing methods anymore, and I'm seeing vast more progress now that I've diversified my techniques.

Hypnosis isn't really for everyone, and if you're particularly uncreative you will be reading the same scripts every time. It can either be comforting seeing the same script and "feeling it" more each time or it can become a chore. Personally, I got used to it, and don't find it tedious at all.

The individual's receptiveness and autosuggestion levels are important when resorting to self-hypnosis, and if they don't trust the method, they will need a good amount of sessions to sensitize themselves to hypnosis. I'm not going to claim that this is an universal constant though, I only speak from my own experience.

It is an useful tool, that's for sure, but knowing the methodology and inner workings of it beforehand may give a better effect. Be patient, look forward to having your goals accomplished and have confidence that every session helps in some way. There's really nothing to lose other than time really, so if you have it I suggest you try it out. Just don't rely on it 100% (but this applies to all methods really, if you don't feel any progress, change them or even create your own way).

Good luck!
05-30-2016, 01:20 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
OP, your accommodation of the "tl;dr" crowd has made your guide very difficult to follow.

I am having difficulty determing where step 1, or 2, or 3, are for me. I'm not a teal deer, and for some reason I keep thinking that I'm supposed to go back up to the explicitly-marked tl;dr section to see what steps to take?

But is that right?

Note: i haven't read the whole several pages of this thread yet, so if there is an explanation in there, just ignore this. But maybe you could link such an explanation in the OP for those of us who prefer to go through things at a more even, unrushed pace?
07-11-2016, 08:32 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
(07-11-2016, 08:32 AM)SeamusTheDog Wrote: OP, your accommodation of the "tl;dr" crowd has made your guide very difficult to follow. ...

But maybe you could link such an explanation in the OP for those of us who prefer to go through things at a more even, unrushed pace?

Oh my god I'm framing this on a wall. You have no idea what you've just said, but you have done a huge service for Linkzelda and my host. People have been complaining about how much detail LZ writes for a long time, and my host keeps telling them sometimes people want more detail not less, and to ignore it if you don't. And see, you exist! Proof! Thanks!

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07-11-2016, 09:51 AM
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RE: Linkzelda's Self-Hypnosis Tulpa Guide
Brief talk comes across faster. I request the same.

Moreover, OP's formatting's messed up.
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Yeah I have no idea what to make of all the [] bracketed numbers and * asterisks. And the ABCD thing just totally confuses me.

It feels like there was a change made to the formatting standards on this board and a lot of the OP got borked because of it.
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