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[Misc] Cinemaphobe's Tulpa Journal Concept
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When one creates a tulpa and a wonderland, they occasionally find themselves forgetting important but small details. The bigger the wonderland, the easier it is to overlook, or completely forget about a location or experience within it. The longer you have been tulpaforcing, the easier it is to forget about an important event in your tulpa's development. The more techniques you have tried, the easier it is to forget which one was the most effective for you.
Sure you can just re-read your PR if you want to recount your experiences, but if you have been using your PR for a long time, then you'll have to sort through hundreds of your own posts (and sometimes the posts of others) to recall important events.
I have found that to be an inconvenient method to recall experiences, so I got into the habit of documenting important events of my tulpa journey in a notebook/journal/diary (Whatever you want to call it). You can also do this virtually as well, but I personally prefer good ole' paper because paper doesn't require electricity.


The tulpa journal is used to document all things pertaining to your tulpa, your tulpaforcing methods, and your wonderland. The purpose of having this journal is to supplement your PR, but it can also be used exclusively if you wish to do so. This is more of a better and/or different way to organize a PR. Below, is a list of all things you'd possibly want to remember, and you can include these things as chapters in your tulpa journal:


Things to write down for quick and convenient recollection.





1. Information about your tulpa: Their name, personality traits (optional), appearance, what they like to do, basically anything about who they are. This is probably going to be the shortest part of the journal.


2. Information about your wonderland: Write down all locations, and all characteristics of the locations as well as what they are used for. Writing down the locations lets you expand your wonderland without forgetting about other locations over time. You can also document strictly wonderland-related anecdotes here.


3. Create separate chapters including but not limited to: Visualization, Imposition, Narration, Forcing, Possession, Switching, and Focus & Concentration. If you use paper, then make sure that each chapter has an adequate amount of blank pages for long-term usage. Of course not everyone is interested in all of the subjects mentioned, so you are more than free to exclude or include whatever. Within these chapters, you'll list what techniques benefit you for the purpose of remembering to practice them in the future, and you'll write down events relevant to the aforementioned categories. Be sure to keep the events short and sweet.



4. Within this chapter, you'll be documenting interactions with your tulpa, so you can call it whatever you want. If you are new to the tulpa phenomenon, then write down every sign your tulpa has given you that it exists. If you have a more developed tulpa, then write down quotes of what your tulpa has said, and/or any experiences/interactions you want to remember with your tulpa. Feel free to write down anything as long as it is relevant to what your tulpa has done or said to you.




5. If you still have plenty of room, then the rest of the journal can be used for anything! Artwork of your tulpa or wonderland, conversations between you and your tulpa, the results of experiments or studies, anything! Be creative for this one! Hell, you can even use the rest of it as a dream journal. The possibilities are endless.



Now I have to address some thoughts that are possibly running through your mind:



What is the point in starting a tulpa journal?


Organization, and recollection.

What happens if someone who doesn't know about the tulpa phenomenon or looks upon the tulpa phenomenon negatively finds my tulpa journal?

Well keeping secrets isn't a good thing, but the tulpa phenomenon is something that some people wouldn't exactly want to make public, unless perhaps you are a Tibetan monk. If you live with others and you need to keep your journal a secret, then make it virtual. Microsoft word, iPod notes, online document services, anything as long as it can be protected by a password/passcode. If you don't need to keep it a secret, or you prefer good ole' notebooks then use a notebook like I do.





Final note: I believe that a tulpa journal would benefit those who strive to create tulpas because it gives people the ability to remember more things, and quickly recall them. Not to mention that organization is a useful tool for accomplishing a seemingly impossible task. I also believe that having things documented about your tulpa, and creating the journal itself is an action that makes your friendship with your tulpa more intimate. How, you may ask? Because you are taking the time to make a journal for your beloved tulpa.


~Thank you.

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#2
The only concern I have is wondering how this is really any different from having an organized PR. You made the argument that someone can just re-read their PR, but if someone makes their own journal, and actually makes consistent notes and such on it, they would be in the same position of that individual having mixed reactions of their experiences stated in their PR. I’d say a PR can be just as organized as any other medium to put down information, but again, with things like servers changing/crashing/etc., reminding others to use something like a word document is a good idea, even though it is obvious to do that for the sake of contingency.

I’m emphasizing on these statements because it seems you’re implying that re-reading their PR wouldn’t be similar to what you can get off here. Though I’m sure you’re not intending to do that, but it gives off that vibe that a person won’t go through a nostalgia trip to see how far they went, or even rekindle whatever intimate/camaraderie type of feelings they have for their tulpas.


Also, you may have to change “tulpae” to “tulpas,” as I’m sure someone is going to get on you for that.


These are minor concerns, and it’s more of how to set up a PR version 2.0, but I approve this for Resources. My reasons for Resources is because of a previous submission somewhat similar to yours:

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-gene...-checklist


Also, it's good for you to add that tidbit on how one should assess keeping things private, because it's depressing on how people ignore that, and become shocked when they tell their co-wokers, or someone that could react negatively to this of what they're doing with entities inside their minds.
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(11-15-2014, 06:46 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: The only concern I have is wondering how this is really any different from having an organized PR. You made the argument that someone can just re-read their PR, but if someone makes their own journal, and actually makes consistent notes and such on it, they would be in the same position of that individual having mixed reactions of their experiences stated in their PR.

It would be easier to address this if I knew what an organized PR looked like. I have read many PR's that turn out to be walls of text regardless of how relevant they were to progress, but never have I seen a progress report that carefully labels what happened for quick reference. In the typical report, a person would write down what happened, what they think of it, and the date it occurred. Some even include anecdotes. But what I had hoped to achieve by bringing up this concept was to save time reading through a PR by recording events and placing the events in their respective categories.


(11-15-2014, 06:46 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: I’m emphasizing on these statements because it seems you’re implying that re-reading their PR wouldn’t be similar to what you can get off here. Though I’m sure you’re not intending to do that, but it gives off that vibe that a person won’t go through a nostalgia trip to see how far they went, or even rekindle whatever intimate/camaraderie type of feelings they have for their tulpas.


Well I actually purposely implied that, but not with the intent to diminish the value of PR's. I introduced the concept of tulpa journals to merely accompany PR's.
Re-reading a PR can be a sentimental experience for those with the time to do so. However, for those who want to recount the progress they have made in a way that requires less reading for the purpose of reference or boosting one's own morale, having a tulpa journal could be convenient.



(11-15-2014, 06:46 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: Also, you may have to change “tulpae” to “tulpas,” as I’m sure someone is going to get on you for that.

Unfortunately I love the word "tulpae" but I changed it lol thanks.

(11-15-2014, 06:46 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: These are minor concerns, and it’s more of how to set up a PR version 2.0, but I approve this for Resources. My reasons for Resources is because of a previous submission somewhat similar to yours:

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-gene...-checklist

I don't see the relation between the tulpa-checklist and the tulpa journal at all, so you should discuss that with me to clear up any confusion on my side or your side. The tulpa checklist seems to be just...well... a checklist. It doesn't mention or advise writing down anything besides the checklist itself. It's common sense to write down the information, but it's still ineffective in organizing and categorizing the events of a PR. The tulpa journal is just a quick reference for people without the time to read through a PR for whatever reason. I wouldn't even classify the tulpa journal as a modified version of a PR. I'd say it serves the same function as a periodic table of elements; instead of reading a paragraph about Helium in a chemistry book to learn it's atomic mass, you can simply find Helium on the periodic table and have the atomic mass of every other element in view. (I hope that the analogy made sense. I'm kind of sleepy right now)

(11-15-2014, 06:46 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: Also, it's good for you to add that tidbit on how one should assess keeping things private, because it's depressing on how people ignore that, and become shocked when they tell their co-wokers, or someone that could react negatively to this of what they're doing with entities inside their minds.


I basically had to include the whole privacy thing because I wanted to be completely thorough (But still, I wasn't thorough enough apparently because we are having this discussion lol).

Thank you for your input and consideration.
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For one this isn't a guide, like at all it's a tips and tricks ad I think it would work as such.

I actually did do this but to be honest I gave up on it because I found it was easier and much more productive to post on the PR an get feedback from other users.

That's not to say that for some people this won't be a much welcome option although I'm sure it's something that a lot of people have thought of.

I would say that it's good for tips and tricks as it doesn't really explain a new concept of tulpa developement nor is it really a "how to" for anything but personally I think the PR's on the site are far more useful just in the sense that you can get feedback which would keep someone from loosing interest in it.

But then again someone might really need this idea in their tulpa making life.

Good for tips and tricks.
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(11-15-2014, 09:36 AM)Cinemaphobe Wrote: It would be easier to address this if I knew what an organized PR looked like.

Well, mine has a table of contents, but yeah, it's not at all what you're talking about. Fenchurch was almost a year old when I started my PR, so there isn't much progress in there.

I agree with Amber. The whole time I was reading this, I was thinking Tips and Tricks, but then Linkzelda has more GAT experience than Amber and me combined, so perhaps Resources is better.

I'll definitely say approved, for Tips or Resources.
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Cinemaphobe Wrote:It would be easier to address this if I knew what an organized PR looked like. I have read many PR's that turn out to be walls of text regardless of how relevant they were to progress, but never have I seen a progress report that carefully labels what happened for quick reference. In the typical report, a person would write down what happened, what they think of it, and the date it occurred. Some even include anecdotes. But what I had hoped to achieve by bringing up this concept was to save time reading through a PR by recording events and placing the events in their respective categories.

Your next statement clarified your intentions, and I can see that you obviously made this as a supplement for PRs, or other mediums of tulpa-related progress.

' Wrote:I don't see the relation between the tulpa-checklist and the tulpa journal at all, so you should discuss that with me to clear up any confusion on my side or your side. The tulpa checklist seems to be just...well... a checklist. It doesn't mention or advise writing down anything besides the checklist itself. It's common sense to write down the information, but it's still ineffective in organizing and categorizing the events of a PR. The tulpa journal is just a quick reference for people without the time to read through a PR for whatever reason. I wouldn't even classify the tulpa journal as a modified version of a PR. I'd say it serves the same function as a periodic table of elements; instead of reading a paragraph about Helium in a chemistry book to learn it's atomic mass, you can simply find Helium on the periodic table and have the atomic mass of every other element in view. (I hope that the analogy made sense. I'm kind of sleepy right now)

I used the comparison for several reasons, but for this being a checklist similar to that link isn’t one of them, and I do apologize for not extending on my reasons.

- The submission of yours is mentioning tulpas

- It’s not giving a symbolic step(s) with/without instruction (so it technically wouldn’t be a tip), or at least there’s little to no symbolism.


- You have the intention of it being used as a supplement for PRs, and other mediums for personal records with one’s tulpa (e.g. tablet of contents, categories)

- Even though it’s formatted so others can have a roadmap on how to assess various tulpa-related endeavors (e.g. narration, wonderland, imposition), which can definitely have potential as a guide if more content was available on more methodologies with explanations, the original premise of yours makes it fitted for Tips & Tricks, or Resources



Now, if we actually want to see similarities of this submission and the tulpa checklist, it’s that there’s general concepts for someone to wrap around their minds, and to extend on for each section. They aren’t constrained to just those, and are encouraged to add their own while still giving them a sense of direction. They both have potential as serving as a blank canvas for anyone, i.e., a conceptual roadmap they can create with free reign, and little to no standards/rules to go by militantly.

They’re both supplements, and can even be used hand in hand. Like utilizing your tulpa journal concept as the major categorical thing, and then the checklist as a daily/weekly/monthly/etc. type of thing to fit the intention of focusing on one’s tulpa, and strengthening whatever personal feelings they have for them and such. And even though there’s tulpa related content, and a sense of direction for others to go to, it’s mostly just the lack of methodologies, or an explanation for certain methodologies to develop certain skills and techniques.

Don't get me wrong though, something like this may definitely further one's means of developing their skills and all, but it's a supplemental kind of progression.

You definitely explained more than the tulpa checklist obviously, and I didn’t mean to use the checklist to undermine your submission at all. It’s just for reasons above where I felt it could be in Resources. Of course, if others feel it is Tips & Tricks material, I’m okay with it. But instead of being indecisive between those two, I wanted to make a decision, but I’m still open to what the majority thinks of course.

Approved for Tips or Resources.
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Ah okay. Thanks for clearing up the confusion I had. I was aiming for the Tips and Resources section because of the journal's supplementary nature.


EDIT: I actually never intended for this to be considered a guide. I guess I should have stated that much sooner, because I only wanted this to be considered for Tips and Tricks or Resources.


But thank you for your approval!
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#8
I see this, as others have, as a way to organize your PR, as opposed to a guide that works as a standalone piece. Besides minor things, the format isn't awful, the writing and grammar is intelligent and readable, and it emphasizes some of ideas. The privacy bit is especially good, because of the fact that people do sometimes not know how to handle keeping something like a tulpa a secret if they need to. You might want to specify the that this is more of a better way (or a different way) to go about organizing a PR, but aside from that, I think this could be useful.

I have no problem with this going in Tips or Resources, but maybe under a different, PR related, name.
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(11-15-2014, 09:17 PM)Quilten Wrote: You might want to specify the that this is more of a better way (or a different way) to go about organizing a PR, but aside from that, I think this could be useful.

Okay I edited my post to include this:

Quote:The tulpa journal is used to document all things pertaining to your tulpa, your tulpaforcing methods, and your wonderland. The purpose of having this journal is to supplement your PR, but it can also be used exclusively if you wish to do so. This is more of a better and/or different way to organize a PR. Below, is a list of all things you'd possibly want to remember, and you can include these things as chapters in your tulpa journal:


(11-15-2014, 09:17 PM)Quilten Wrote: I have no problem with this going in Tips or Resources, but maybe under a different, PR related, name.

I have no idea what other name would be appropriate for it. I don't want a name too PR-related because the tulpa journal can be used exclusively. However, I also don't want to rename it something that expresses no relation to PR's. I think that the term "Tulpa Journal" stands right in the middle of the spectrum, because the name suggests that it can be used exclusively, while the text of the thread suggests that it can be used as a supplement to PRs. If you disagree with my logic for the name, then I am open to suggestions for a more appropriate name, because I can't think of any.


EDIT: I just fixed a jesus-load of grammar mistakes from my tulpa journal post. I'm surprised and glad that nobody pointed out my double-negative lol
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Dear diary, today I learned that overly large text is actually harder to read than small text.

I can't say I have issues with the idea of this guide or how you've written it, but the presentation is certainly the one thing that bugs me. Is there a reason for the text to have such a large font size and all these bolds? I know that on a small monitor, it makes this one feel strangely claustrophobic. Is it like that on a phone or a larger monitor? I guess one advantage large text might have over smaller ones is that it's easier to read for those with poor sight, but many browsers these days have a zoom function I'd assume they use. I too could make this smaller that way, but then the smaller than normal text becomes impossible to read. I suggest that you consider your font sizes a bit more, don't make the large ones so large and don't make the small ones so small, and use your bolds and italics sparingly, for emphasis. Speaking of which, is the fourth section being the only one in italics for a reason or...?

The uneven spacing between the blocks of texts is also driving me nuts. I hope this doesn't mean I have OCD or something.

I appreciate that you changed tulpae to tulpas, thank you for that. Anyways, the idea I get from this based on what you have written is that this is mostly a tool to remember as you have been forcing for a while already, what with the talk of putting down important events and all that. That's why I feel like the first section of putting down your tupper's name and who they are is a bit silly, because by that point, you would already know that and would never need it again. I don't think you could forget that - and they could remind you. I know that this can be used early on as well and that probably is what you mean, but I'm afraid that the way you wrote this made it seem more like it's something you'll make use of later on. Maybe you should make it a bit more clear that this can be used as a tool very early on as well, while most people would probably find that obvious, it's better to spell things out for those who are extremely lost.

Another thing I don't think you mentioned is that you should be editing a journal like this heavily. Of course, when it comes to your experiences, you shouldn't change them so you don't mess it up. But if you learned something about them later on, you should write that down. And the parts that will definitely change through time will most likely be the section about your tulpa and your wonderland! If they change, remember to edit it so it fits, maybe even make a note of when a change happened or why, if you know.

I think it's very important to note down what you experience so you can start putting the puzzle pieces together when you read back, so I like that this one talks about it.

Now, when it comes to where this should be put, I'd say Resources over Tips and Tricks. I feel like Tips and Tricks is usually something that could easily be summed up in a sentence, so x to help with y kind of things. This one I feel has been written more like a guide, so such a simple way of putting it is pretty difficult without removing a lot of the stuff that is also important about this. This one I feel clearly guides me through the process. But the Guides section is only for tupper guides, not everything that might somehow relate to tuppers. We have meditation guides that were put to Resources because they were guides but not actual tulpa guides, so I feel this one is the same. It's a guide, but not a tulpa guide, so it seems like it would follow the pattern by going to Resources. The checklist thing is also there and it might be the closest thing to this we have this far.

I could approve this, but I suggest the author considers the presentation a bit more.
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