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[Misc] Does Your Vision Blur When You Zone Out?
#1
While talking to Miri and shield in the cBox, they brought up the fact their vision blurs when they "zone out" or "space out". For me, I end up staring at something without thinking about anything. I wonder if this has something to so with our difficulty learning switching?
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#2
Uh, either or? I don't see this as remotely related to switching, anyways.

I really want to say it's random if my eyes unfocused when zoned out or if they just rested looking at something, usually the latter though.
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#3
Part of why I feel like it's related to switching is because it's dissociation. When Ranger possesses the body, everything seems crystal clear to me. I tried dissociating to where my vision blurs and I can't seem to do it.
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#4
these seems really unrelated to me. vision blurring doesn't have to do with dissociation, it's just about whether your eyes rested focused on something, or focused on nothing
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#5
Well, by lose focus I meant literally my eyes unfocusing, which I think is actually them being focused at some other random (probably closer) distance. Even if I just do visualization for more than a few seconds, with my eyes open, if I'm focused on trying to immerse myself in it then I'm paying zero attention to what my eyes are seeing. If that's what you're talking about with focus, literal focus, uh - yes, it's extremely important to be able to stop focusing on the outside world and direct your attention inward. I don't even know what a lack of ability to do that would entail, but even aphantasiacs are generally able to focus inward like that I think.

I have likened the complete lack of focus on the real world while say showering and talking to my tulpas/doing visualization to dissociation, and while it's in practicality not the same (that's a terribly messy way to try and ""dissociate"" as opposed to just sitting still and focusing on your self mentally) it does feel like the same state. Though, when I dissociate for switching, it's very deliberate and I'm moving my sense of self away from the body. When showering or whatnot and talking to my tulpas, I may not be focused on reality, but I wouldn't call myself completely dissociated, either. It's like unlocking a lock without moving whatever was being locked, so it still stays in place, maybe.
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#6
When I zone out while daydreaming or focused on internal thoughts, I can still see the world in front of me, but I'm giving it so little attention I probably couldn't tell you much about it and it feels like a blur. My vision may become unfocused. If the body is on autopilot, though, vision will be focused and attending to whatever, but my own attention is on my inner thoughts and I'm not experiencing the world very much. It seems the body/brain is able to process and react to the environment without my full attention. When it comes to switching/fronting/possession... I suppose if both host and tulpa are using the same attention system, it may not be possible for the host to tune out. Because the tulpa is focusing the shared attention. I can't offer any insights into overcoming that.
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#7
If I'm staring vacantly at something, it's because I'm deep in thought. I couldn't tell you if my eyes are focused, because even though they are loyally still sending information, I'm not really processing it or remembering it. But there is neither blurring worthy of note nor an absence of thought.

I agree with Lumi and Bre that this doesn't sound like anything associated with switching. A form of dissociation may be a result of switching, in that we no longer treat ourselves as in the body in spite of perceiving the physical senses with perfect clarity. But dissociation has never been a technique we use in switching and the physical senses have never faded any as a result of switching, however dodgy our very consciousness might sometimes have gotten.

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#8
my vision doesn't blur like that. when I start to lose awareness of vision I don't lose details, I lose something, but it's not blurriness. it's hard to discribe
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#9
Not, not really.
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#10
when I zone out.. vision is not something I even thinking about. It's more like my brain is zoning out so Im not focusing on something any more much .. well I cant think if my vision blurs or not as I really are not paying it attention to that.

I'd think that not to be related to switching.
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I do know though when it comes to medical stuff that blurring vision can be connected to disassociation. One time when I collapsed and had a seizure (quite embarrassing as it was out in public and when I come too I had people all around me), immediately before that I suddenly went into blurred vision and it was like the world changed went all bright but also went hollow and everything was all like far away.. altered sense of space (so I think of that like disassociation as I was disconnected). That was all a result of my low blood volume and not enough blood getting to my brain.
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