[Misc] Jimmy's Pony Creation Thread. Because you were too unoriginal to make your own.
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So, your doing a pony for your tulpa, huh? So am I. But I want to give you some help before you might mess up.

Character
First off, I would advise not basing it off a pony that has much speaking time, like the mane 6, or even a character that gets even a small role or amount of time on air like Mr. Cake. Why? Because you're trying to build it into something it can't be. Tulpas are like snow flakes, none are exactly the same. Due to deviation, or your choice of character traits, a Rainbow Dash tulpa will never be the same as the pony on the show. But everytime it looks at your memory, or sees you watching MLP:FiM, she will be disappointed she didn't be the pegasus you wanted. For my tulpa, I chose Vinyl Scratch. This decision was made not based on what I said above, but through personal choice. For reference for non-bronies/pegasis, she's only appeared a few times, and never spoken on the show. One must note that others have made/are creating tulpas based off characters with fleshed out personalities, even with
knowledge of FAQ's warnings. Bluesleeve, a sometime poster here, is creating a tulpa based off Rainbow Dash. To quote from his blog:

It’s not like I’m talking to myself now, but to Rainbow Dash, she’s kind of there now - like a co-pilot.

I would listen to him in what he says, despite some of his info going against what FAQ says. Link to his tumblr. Something to note that I haven't yet heard of a tulpa being jealous of it's tulpamancer's (read the Glossary) favourite. If you do a Bon Bon (little talk time that I know of) tulpa, but Twilight is your opinion of the best pone, jealousy could occur. Entirely superstition from my perspective.

Visuals
So once you've decided on the form/character, think about the visualization. Do you want a cartoon imposition? Or perhaps you want to have your tulpa similar to this? I took it upon myself to try to do the 2d version. Read the visualization links in the Links section at the top of the page for help. What I did is I printed off a bunch of images of the 2d version from the internet, hole punched them and threw em' in a binder, put paper over them and traced them. This allowed me imagine at least some angles of her body. While forcing, I would imagine Vinyl in my wonderland of sorts, just her amongst blackness. To get the angles, I would spin her around Google Earth style. This is easier to imagine if you're doing a 3d imposition, but some tips if you decided on 2d:
  • Few shadows exist in the cartoons, and when they do, they are usually a solid, non blurred shadow (some exceptions: the insides of Rarity's hair and the insides of legs)
  • Depth exists through >implication. Using a picture of Vinyl for reference, you can note the >implied depth in the legs, head and neck. Focus on this while spinning your pony

An issue I had with imagining Vinyl: The nose. While you may imagine it way easier, and not have the same problem I did. But consult the 3d render link from above. The bridge of the nose is rather blocky (perhaps it's the render, but I doubt it), but the pointest part of the nose leads directly into the neck, without any sort of chin, with the mouth in the middle of that. The nose isn't just some blob with two holes on it, and writing this guide has actually helped a bit with understanding the nose. Thanks me!

Notes
Don't create friends for your tulpa. As much as they are buds in the series, you don't want your happy as can be Applejack to get depressed because of the fact she's missing her friends and family. This ties in with the first paragraphs.

Clopping is a bit of an issue as well. To those who didn't migrate from /mlp/ or anywhere pony related, it's fapping to pony Rule 34. Back to the topic, if you've fapped to your precious Lyra taking it up the ass from Braeburn, I'd consider purging that memory. But read on. We aren't fluffy ponies, however, so you can't reset minds. I personally will come clean about everything to Vinyl when the bridge is upon me, and I would suggest the same to you if you don't want to try and forget the memory. Clopping will come up eventually regardless of what you try and do, so I'd come clean. It's your choice though.

Also, something to dwell on for people who have already developed tulpas based off (non) fictional characters: Would your tulpa have suffered identity problems if you simply used the image and not the personality?

Will edit for mistakes if I see them.
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One thing you might want to use for the nose is just pictures of almost any other female pony. Most of them have the same exact body shape, snout included.
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(05-22-2012, 04:19 AM)Ned Bigby Wrote: One thing you might want to use for the nose is just pictures of almost any other female pony. Most of them have the same exact body shape, snout included.

I couldn't understand the first sentence.
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yeah it looks like I accidentally a word or two, not too coherent now that i'm on my third all-nighter.

what i meant was, if you're having trouble visualizing the nose, try using pictures of the noses of other ponies for reference. twilight, pinkie pie, apple jack, vinyl, etc, etc, all have the same face shape, the only thing different is the eyes.
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I think I have it. I was originally thinking that it was just a blob that was stuck on their face (all MLP ponies for that matter). But looking at different things, like the render I posted, I think I've got it. Which brings me to wonder, if tulpas can be affected by dreams, how would they be affect by sleep deprivation? Please tell me once you've finished whatever report your delaying by looking at this post.
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James, just fuck off to a blog. The other pony people here aren't nearly as bad as you. They treat it the exact same as any other character to derive a tulpa from, not this secret club that you use weird words to make yourself feel special.
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I'm doing a 3D Lyra, because I just can't wrap my head around a 2D being in physical space. And I definitely feel you talking about the muzzle and mouth, I'm still having a bit of difficulty comprehending how all that comes together. Using this image has helped me most so far
Name: Lyra
Form: http://i.imgur.com/JjMxK.jpg
Sentience: Emotional responses, occasional brief vocalization
Currently doing: Personality & narration
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(05-22-2012, 04:46 AM)tulpatalk Wrote: James, just fuck off to a blog. The other pony people here aren't nearly as bad as you. They treat it the exact same as any other character to derive a tulpa from, not this secret club that you use weird words to make yourself feel special.

That's quite unnessisary. Let jimmy have his thread. If you want him to make a blog then ask him politely.
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(05-22-2012, 04:46 AM)tulpatalk Wrote: James, just fuck off to a blog.

Note the fact I'm trying to help people by making this thing. A portion of the members here migrated from the /mlp/ threads (and a couple people at least visited the site through reddit, which you have me to thank for.), so making a guide to pony tulpas would be a good idea, at least I think.

Some people want to make their tulpas ponies. I can understand that. But by telling them

A) Ways to impose it

B) Why they shouldn't do certain things

In a way they can at least partially understand, I can reach them.

I have the feeling you don't like me. But I like you.
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(05-22-2012, 04:55 AM)Charlotte Wrote: That's quite unnessisary. Let jimmy have his thread. If you want him to make a blog then ask him politely.

I have, in the past.

And to Jimmy, I'm sorry. I can sometimes get out of hand.

(05-22-2012, 04:58 AM)Rustler706 Wrote: I have the feeling you don't like me. But I like you.

It's not that, it's just that I know someone who acts like you, and anger is the reslut. You seem determined to say things in just the exact way to get me mad. And why on Earth would you like me? I have only expressed increasing animosity in every post directed at you.
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