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[Misc] Peace of Mind in Multiples
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(03-08-2019, 09:04 AM)Shinyuu Wrote: Summing up; I don't feel like Piano's feedback was actionable and I have fundamental disagreements on the points required by Clo and Ranger I will consider the vote spread not in my favour even with the requested amendments. Thus I'm withdrawing my submission from further review.

As a followup note I'd like to see a wider GAT statement on advertising; including the definition of what they consider advertising to start with (it might be feasible for me to withdraw the other articles too before you spend your time reading them).
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Ah man, if I'd realized your submission was so small I would've just read it a long time ago. Was sort of traumatized by those massive Google Docs guides.

So, first off - your use of subconscious is fine with its intent, the problem is it brings to mind the idea of "multiple subconscious minds" and all that people have been arguing about for years. All subconscious information will be stored in the body's singular subconscious, although there is (or at least can be for a developed tulpa) a clearly defined bubble for them. My tulpas do react on a very basic level to things differently than me while switched to the point I've been convinced of this. But even I don't like the sound of them "getting their own subconscious"; like, yes.. effectively, but no, it's still not a separate "thing" entirely. Just their own root folder on a hard drive. Same hard drive, still susceptible to the limitations of hardware, viruses, etc. that the rest has. But by all other means separate. Does it make sense what I'm saying about your use of the word? Because I'm not sure how exactly to change it if at all. It just might give misconceptions as-is, seen by the GAT not liking your use of the word.

Second,
Quote:No matter if you live in your own little world or are exposed to the — sometimes harsh — reality, you will eventually meet something that will bring you calamity and stress. Commonly, tulpas aren’t as good at dealing with it, being idolised and exposed only to the pleasant experiences at a younger age. Exposed to new stressors, tulpas might break down or worse — take all the system down with them.

This isn't true. It sounds like an intuitive assumption, and maybe you've seen different experiences than me, but in my case my tulpas have often been better at dealing with situations than me - assuming the right person was there for the job. Lucilyn was surely hit hard by the first time she had hurt feelings and almost cried, something I haven't done in like 17 years. But she has a much better outlook on life than me (I mean, mine's fine, but she's extremely positive) and has an easier time dealing with my inherent motivation issues doing what needs to be done. And then Tewi.. Well, Tewi is just better than me at everything.

So I said, "This isn't true". But you know it should've been "This isn't always true" - my point exactly. I know you said "Commonly", but I still majorly got the impression (reading it like someone who's newish to the phenomenon) that it's almost exclusively true, and that letting a tulpa try to deal with problems the host has could be disastrous. I recommend either rewriting things a bit so that it doesn't sound like tulpas + life problems = time bomb, OR not submitting this to be an Article in the first place. With how small and somewhat personally-informed it is, it seems like a high-quality post to make a General Discussion thread about. Like, just go make this same thread over there, we'll see it, maybe talk about it, and move on.

The GAT standards have gotten more and more perfectionist over time, and at this point something as reasonable as your article won't be approved simply because it isn't universal enough, unless you can avoid giving off the feeling that it's "almost always like this" as you have. But hey, not only am I not GAT, I don't even read the Guides or Articles sections of the forum (just help with Submissions sometimes). Your article would do well in General Discussion. Quality posts like this end up getting bumped for years from one person saying it helped them or they liked it, bringing new viewers over time.

"Articles" might get a lot of views, or it might not, I'm not sure. It's dusty. And nothing gets bumped.
Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn.
Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature.
My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us stuff.
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#32
(03-08-2019, 12:13 PM)Luminesce Wrote: So, first off - your use of subconscious is fine with its intent, the problem is it brings to mind the idea of "multiple subconscious minds" and all that people have been arguing about for years. All subconscious information will be stored in the body's singular subconscious, although there is (or at least can be for a developed tulpa) a clearly defined bubble for them. My tulpas do react on a very basic level to things differently than me while switched to the point I've been convinced of this. But even I don't like the sound of them "getting their own subconscious"; like, yes.. effectively, but no, it's still not a separate "thing" entirely. Just their own root folder on a hard drive. Same hard drive, still susceptible to the limitations of hardware, viruses, etc. that the rest has. But by all other means separate. Does it make sense what I'm saying about your use of the word? Because I'm not sure how exactly to change it if at all. It just might give misconceptions as-is, seen by the GAT not liking your use of the word.

Yeah; you kinda nailed what I tried to communicate with that word; it seems to carry the meaning I envisioned originally. But again; I'm not a scientist.
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